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UPDATED Tuesday, 9:30 p.m.: “Second chance” does not mean Dann’s a favored Vindy guy

By Todd Franko (Contact)


Published May 6, 2008

Somebody's seeing it similarly to our controversial editorial. 

This is from a Dispatch story Tuesday night:

But most lawmakers stopped short of pledging to support an impeachment resolution, saying they need to see evidence that Dann's misdeeds rise above irresponsible behavior. “I don't know whether we should impeach somebody for being stupid,” said Rep. Joseph F. Koziura, a Lorain Democrat.

Original Tuesday blog: 

On Sunday, The Vindicator announced that it was not the proper time to call for Marc Dann to resign and that he should be allowed to stay on the job.

Many newspapers were in opposition to our stance.

How the newspapers weighed in on the Dann situation would have made news regardless. Our stance has prompted plenty of debate and headlines. Some of it is no doubt fueled by the reality that we’re Dann’s hometown newspaper and we’re a valley newspaper — you know, that valley.

I suppose we’d incur similar comments if we were the Lima Vindicator or the Mansfield Vindicator. But the react is stronger because of where we are.

Here’s the reality: Anyone looking at our Sunday editorial and saying we’re giving Dann a pass has not been reading us the past few weeks, and especially Saturday or Sunday or today when headlines included “A Dann Shame” and “Dann is toast.”

They’re also not reading our columns and blogs from me, Bertram DeSouza or David Skolnick.

Trust me that right now, there is not a lot of love for Dann in our office. And historically, there has not been a lot of love for Dann. That’s speaking largely from a personal measure of him. We know his arrogance. We know his flippancy.

That’s personal stuff. Professionally, there is respect for some of his drive, views and visions. Even a Republican buddy of mine acknowledged Dann has some sharp ideas.

Separately from the Vindicator's highs and lows on Dann historically, the other reality in our discussion has been the prominence of the job.

It is an office of the highest standard and requires someone of the best integrity. Dann has failed at that with these episodes. But it is also an office elected by the entire state of Ohio, not just a couple counties in northeast Ohio. Vacating such an office — or even asking that person to get out -- requires a bit more evaluation and measurement.

I have trust in the voters ultimately. Voters will choose who they want. Ohioans chose an obscure guy named Dann over a veteran politician like Betty Montgomery. Ohioans can also decide not to re-elect him in 2010 -- if he makes it that long.

Separate from voters, the elected Ohio leaders have the tool to impeach. They seem intent to use that tool after days of examination of the situation. 

So there are plenty of scenarios. Too many.

Another scenario is also to see if Dann truly can be a better AG than what he’s been. America is a forgiving culture. We also have this tremendous thirst for piling on. A tremendous thirst.

Too often, our forgiving stage comes well after a period of penance. Maybe that’s right. Maybe that’s wrong. President Clinton comes to mind as someone who begged forgiveness for personal stupidity while still staying on the job.

I doubt Dann will get a chance to be a better AG. The state’s top Democrats — after three days of thinking this through — decided to ask Dann to step down. He’s saying no. As I write this, impeachment is the word of the day.

Even the Democrats' action needs some measurement. Is their pursuit of impeachment due to the political interest of the party? Or is it prompted by the damage done to the taxpayers and to the office of Attorney General?

In accusing Dann of being self-serving and selfish by staying on, the party leaders can equally plead guilty to being selfish and self-serving in wanting him out. Getting Dann out of office protects their own elections and November's presidential race. 

We'll wait and watch to see how this plays out over the next 24 to 48 hours. But in splicing our words of a second chance, do not confuse those words with a Dann lovefest here at Vindicator Square.

 

 


Comments

1bff426(1 comment)posted 6 years, 4 months ago

In the private sector, anyone in an organization of any inegrity who had an affair with a subordinate would be fired. Period.

The fact that he is the chief law enforcement officer of the state only magnifies it. His (and his crony's) actions have disgraced the state. He should be impeached.

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2purple51(3 comments)posted 6 years, 4 months ago

The private sector is not government. In the private sector, the people who hire you are also usually responsible for firing you. The people who vote you into office are not necessarily the other people who are also in a government position of being able to impeach you. In any case, I still think the man should be given at least a few months to prove he can do the job properly. If we all were penalized for everything we may have done that is not right/just plain wrong, there would be no one in office and no one working in the private sector either. Who can say they never did anything that embarassed themselves or in hindsight may have been wrong. If this man can recover the support of his family and in-laws, then maybe we should not cast the first stone. Just wondering, did these 2 girls who were sexually harassed (and I have no doubt they were) actually go to Marc Dann personally with this problem? If they didn't, then that is probably why this fiasco has ballooned into such a cluster (if they did go to him then then I apologize the these girls for what I have said). I believe that if they had taken these incidents to him personally and privately, then this would have been dealt with in a more timely manner. Cindy, perhaps your presence at that condo with that sleaze Guiteriez gave Marc the impression that you consented to being there. Mr. Dann is not a liar or a dishonest person. He brought up the fact that he had an afair before being asked about it and I believe he will make amends for the mess in the AG's office. Give him to the end of his term and then let's see what happens. People keep equating this situation with Clinton, however, Clinton denied any impropriety at first, you might remember. Marc Dann didn't let it get that far. All of you people draging his wife through the mud and trying to use him as an example for punishment of what is wrong with our political offices need to take a step back and get some perspective.

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