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Is it back to the future for Mahoning Democrats?

By Bertram de Souza (Contact)


Published February 28, 2010

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What does Mark Hanni want? It’s a question that has been asked many times over the years as the son of the late Don L. Hanni Jr., long-time mercurial chairman of the Mahoning County Democratic Party, has tried to fill his father’s political shoes.
Mark Hanni certainly has not succeeded, but that hasn’t stopped him.
Consider his latest endeavor: Running a slate of precinct committeemen and women in the May Democratic primary as a challenge to party Chairman David Betras. No, Betras isn’t in any danger of being ousted, not after the job he has done since he was elected party chair last April after Lisa Antonini resigned. Betras, who tried many tough criminal cases with Don Hanni, one of the leading criminal lawyers in Ohio, has re-energized the county Democratic Party, attracted the attention of the Ohio Democratic organization, and has stabilized the local entity’s finances.
There are about 300 Democratic precinct committee positions in Mahoning County, and Betras has about 250 candidates in his column. Mark Hanni has about 150.
So, if the numbers don’t indicate victory, what is he after?
If past is prologue, he’s looking for a job — perhaps on the board of elections. He used to be on the payroll and was deputy director until the Mahoning Democrats for Change took over the party by ousting Don Hanni and his cabal.
But while he may cause Betras to work even harder than he intended to in his bid for a full term as party chairman, Mark Hanni isn’t going to find a willing partner for his deal-making.
Betras has been clear: Gone are the days when public jobs were handed out to the family and friends of party insiders.


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1Dem4Life(6 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"No, Betras isn’t in any danger of being ousted, not after the job he has done since he was elected party chair last April after Lisa Antonini resigned." I could not have said it better myself. David Betras has not only re-energized the Mahoning County Democratic Party, solidified ties to the Ohio Democratic Party, but has also been hard at work ensuring all endorsed candidates have everything they need to be re-elected. Chairman Betras has done more than an admirable job fund raising, bringing statewide candidates to town, and working with the precinct committee people to rebuild the party. The results speak for themselves, now it is time to re-elect David Betras and keep the party moving FORWARD.

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2watchingthepolitics(97 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

"bringing statewide candidates to town" the current office holders, the Democrats , would have better served this area bringing jobs and $$$ to the area, not just the candidates to get the slap on the back and the wink of an eye, to assure them of this area's never ending block vote. I WAS a life long Democrat until I seen what happened last election to the true Democrat(s) (H. Clinton). I will NEVER be affiliated with the Democratic Party again.

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3mama(2 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

OK Einstein, aka formerytown, Your math comment is amazing. 250 is what Betras has and Mark Hanni is running 150 committee people ONLY 300 will win ! Now do you understand da you get it ?

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4mama(2 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Mark Hanni is so greedy he wants it all ! His Dad called him Mark "the Hog" and the Bull Moose would say " Pigs get fed Hogs get slaughtered ! He should listen to the wise Old Man.

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5Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

@watchingthepolitics,..

As a lifelong Independent from your perspective I'm sure the Democratic party clearly won't miss you at all.

See granted beyond being a woman Hillary is a rather sharp minded individual. But such pivotal elections aren't won on gender, favor nor on the coat tails of privilege.

Hillary not only made crucial mistakes in her campaign. Ranging from race baiting, gender her Canadian caper, that only further emphasized her Walmart flaps, NAFTA contradictions and her Bosnian recollection,.. she knows and accepts it but you can't?

But see she also vacillated on her voting record and a far better candidate just so happened to had emerged within the party. Thus the people duly recognized, accepted,supported and elected him.. call it timing or whatever but the facts bore favor.

So either way you sensibly look at it be it Independent, democrat or republican the nation won in that election. For unquestionably having elected the best presidential and V.P. candidate ticket on the ballot,.. and for that matter in the world.

Thus from your projection posture I don't see you as fitting in as an Independent,.. that's just me speaking as an Independent.

But I'm sure the republicans or teabaggers would love to patronize you solely for an election date,.. you can contribute to another Bush campaign.

See parties like soliciting strong willed solutions but those of sensible accord. Not harboring problems and it's apparent you're not conducive to the electoral process,.. so good luck and enjoy your free agency casting your vote.

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6ipaidattention(68 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

It's true that Chairman Betras has done a lot to unite this party. The man has brought former enemies to sit at the same table on his executive committee for the greater good of our communities. He has welcomed those who had been alienated by the party. He has brought a refreshing perspective to valley politics. It seems his strongest criticisms are the decisions that were made on behalf of the state party operating here in the valley, but at least he made an effort to work with them. The man has a talented and dedicated staff who nobody else would give a chance and he saw opportunity in. The future for our valley is brighter with a promising turn around from this party and a man who chooses to run his friends as precinct committeepeople against some of our most dedicated so that once once again his family can come to control a political dynasty and degrade our parties image does not deserve the opportunity. Actions speak louder than words, and Hanni's actions have always been insincere.

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71970mach1(1005 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Dave Betras: The man who gave Ohio Marc Dann!

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8watchingthepolitics(97 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Nunya, without a doubt Hillary was the best candidate, at least she had a voting record and not all BS. The lack of a voting record doesn't equate to a superior record, in fact I believe the American people were hoodwinked and bamboozeled into believing "THE CHOSEN ONE" was a better candidate.I'm sure the Democratic Party will not miss me at all, but like ALL Democratic Party endeavor's they will miss the CASH contributions, but you wouldn't know anything about that, since you claim to be an Idependent, the definition of which " is to be too cheap to make a contribution or not have enough b**** to make a wholehearted commitment". Just like Bush said "Do they miss me yet", maybe that's something to think about.

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9walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Watching thepolitics,
You are, sadly, correct. While I voted for McCain, the country would be in far better position if Hillary were in the White House and I can't believe I am saying that. This current administration is so far in over its head, it's not even funny. They wasted the first year in office and have nothing to show for it. Bush may have thrown the country overboard with spending, but Obama insists on chaining some concrete blocks to our feet. And, with the current healthcare debacle, he is marching 2010 Congressional candidates to the guillotine. It is sad, really, to see Hillary relegated to second class status in this administration (as she most certainly is) and I believe she will resign her position in 12 to 18 months. But, with the current leadership in DC, the dems are most assuredly doomed!

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10Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

@walter_sobchak

You know there ole Sobchak, your trying to play straw man for another fuming republican poorly masking as a democrat.

Actually isn't novel, smart nor ingratiating. However, it couldn't be any funnier if you'd been featured as the headline marquee standup comic duo at CPAC,.. just rail against that " colored " guy at all costs huh.

See there's no doubt you voted for Mathusala McCain in the pass presidential election.

That's in spite of his total lack of any superior or even comparable grasp. On any substantive issue of neither foreign or domestic bearing with any proficiency on any scale,.. what a candidate.

See that's a McCain candidate who staunchly supported legislating the country into the absolute worst shape it's been in both foreign and domestically since and or before 1932,... wow what a can't miss guy.

So surely you admired all those profound traits and had to be overjoyed with McSame promoting. A placing of the country in the hands of a sardonic separatist and serial imbecile with no grasp on facts nor solutions.

See that very McCain candidate selected that co mutual criminally insane bespectacled Bimbette. Solely to lure female votes via a crude sexist slant,.. how savory.

Where your support for an outdated derelict like McCain presenting Sybil Palin as his V.P. speaks for itself,.. might I suggest you try a 12 step program.

Thus regardless to the Airhead from Alaska being even more clueless than dishonest John himself. You embraced her being a heir apparent within a 74 year old seniors heartbeat away from finishing the country off,.. you're an absolute re-election campaign treasure.

Yep only an individual like you and your bobbsie buddy could find solace in having voted for a John McCain presidency,.. I bet you have a de-winged fly collection too.

Pay no mind to your candidates actually being so intolerable and indefensible idiotic. That's now merited McCain being contested in a primary within his own party,.. even beneath the presidency.

As well as how about that spitfire of stupidity Sybil Palin character as a side order to ole Mathusala as national representatives,.. boy are you priceless for campaign fodder.

Ole Sybil ran from her failed serial ethics violations and incompetency filled first term governorship. To avert getting thrown out and peddle stooge stew books to those like you and your buddy,.. P.T. Barnum never lied about suckers did he.

So now you'll drape your chagrin in proclaiming you're angry because a Hillary Clinton isn't in office,.. and you'd like to be taken serious?

What next there Einstein are you going all in for a Cheney do over. Or hitching your hopes on backing a lascivious Limburger & buffoonish bawling Beck the fat boys are back 2012 ticket?,.. oh the ham handed possibilities huh.

I wonder have you given thought to petitioning north Korea for immigrancy?,.. Kim Jong-il sounds like your kinda guy.

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11tylersclark(182 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

I guess when you're trounced as a Republican--as Mark Hanni was in 2006--there's nothing to do except pretend you're a Democrat. Mark doesn't stand a chance in either party, especially not when Betras has managed the local party so effectively.

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12Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

@1970mach1

Jeez he sure did didn't he,.. lest yee forget.

Ole Marc Dann is the gift of disgrace that just keeps on giving to isn't he.

That shanghai saga of an all out assault on sensibility. Was part brothel, alcohol and drug dependency, gambling, mass destruction of government property.

That even included willfully placing the public at large at grave risk and danger. Of becoming collateral damage at the behest of good ole Dann dispatching his drunk driving despots driving state vehicles,..

Spreckled with acts of saucy sicko flavored sexual harassment and a host of other treasures of treachery is still unfolding too,..

Ethics charges filed against two key figures in Marc Dann case
Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:29 PM
Updated: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 04:48 PM
By James Nash
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Prosecutors filed ethics charges today against two key figures in the scandal that drove former Attorney General Marc Dann from office in 2008.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/...

I guess Vindy didn't get / post the news yet. Where to me as an impartiality hawk. Any and everybody that was aligned with have swore by an offering of that Marc Dann display. Has a validity rating of ZERO as I see it,..

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13Nunya(1356 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

@Sad

Make sense mame ! Sense !

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14dennycrain69(5 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

dave beetras + leo jennings III + edgar simpson = CRIMINAL CHARGES !!

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15dennycrain69(5 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

dave betras + leo jennings III + edgar simpson = CRIMINAL CHARGES !! lol ! betras is TOAST !! lol !

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16Dem4Life(6 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Please, Chairman Betras has been nothing but honest and ethical. There are plenty of area officials, leaders and citizens who helped Marc Dann in his election and none of them, including Chairman Betras, are pleased with Marc Dann's actions. Maybe Chairman Betras can give some of you the legal ramifications on libel and slander.

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17lovinthepolitics(3 comments)posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Let the political season begin! I So much enjoy it when the vindicator attacks Hanni, and he responds by going on the radio and talks about Bertram de Souza's many DUI arrests,or How Betty Jagnow REALLY made it to the top of the vindicator. I hope both sides keep this up. Politics stink but the entertainment is worth it!

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