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David Betras: A Legend (in his own mind)

By Bertram de Souza (Contact)

Published December 30, 2010

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The text message came in at 6:51 a.m. today:
 “What? What? My ego driven ass is flattened that sxxx hxxx tom makes top ten and I do not.”
The text was followed by a telephone call around 10 a.m.  — and David Betras was still ranting and raving about Tom Humphries, president and chief executive officer of the Youngstown/Warren Regional Chamber, being on The Vindicator’s list of the top 10 newmakers of the year — “Top 10 Of 2010.”
Betras, chairman of the Mahoning County Democratic Party, will be on the ski slopes for New Year’s; if he doesn’t calm down he might end up like Sonny Bono.
Betras contends that if it weren’t for him, Humphries’ decision to co-host a fund-raising party for Republican gubernatorial candidate — and now governor-elect — John Kasich would never have become a hot story. It is true that the Democratic chairman caused the uproar over the endorsement, resulting in some businesses to withdraw their membership from the chamber. But, isn’t that what a political partisan is supposed to do?
As for his not being on the Top Ten list, Betras can take comfort from the fact that he is a Legend (in his own mind) and he’s No. 1 on his wife’s and children’s lists — or is he?
Here’s toasting you for an Egocentric 2011, Chairman.


11970mach1(1005 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

"if (Betras) doesn’t calm down he might end up like Sonny Bono."

Talk about a great Christmas gift for the Valley!

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2Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

For bringing Barney Frank to The Valley Betras certainly deserves to be held in high esteem by a slect few who see the worthiness of this act . For the rest of us Betras is viewed as an out of touch far left liberal .

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3author50(1121 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

David should have made the list for making party endorsements mean something. Without that endorsement - Carol never would have beaten Ludt. Now, everyone who wants to run for office is after the endorsement.

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4Nunya(1356 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Hold on here Stanley,..

My even not being a big Betras fan or supporter, I'll refuse to hear him singled out as some one man pariah here. Granted he's got a shady aura and has been associated with some shady things,.. look at all the rest of them.

So and however, the cities problems with such an abundance of shady characters. What you're trying to contend here in an attempt to allege and or to attribute Dave Betras, to be the origin of sole orchestration is absurd.

Where I'd never, thought I'd be standing in defense of Dave Betras. However, just because I don't oft agree with his actions or public projection. I'm still not one to see or hear of one individual being falsely projected or perceived as a one man menace to the area.

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5Nunya(1356 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

@ 1970mach1

Did you really have to say that?,..

Granted, I disagree and I don't know Dave Betras and didn't get to meet Sonny Bono either. Which you may not be implying anything beyond what I perceive as a misguided joke. But I just find the inference of suffering a grim fate uncalled for.

I guess what I'm saying is that just like I want the best for everyone it doesn't exclude Mr. Betras. Where I don't oft agree with many of the local establishment for which he's a singular figure of.

Hence and however, just like I want everyone to conduct them / ourselves in a just manner. I'm not one to wish nor sanction ill will. For which that sincerity of wanting peace, tranquility and well being for all does in fact include that of Mr. Betras, as well.

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6Nunya(1356 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

This is something,..

Here Bertram as the notoriously ultimate nepotist Vindy advocate for Betras. Is for some reason and suddenly flipping his script and jumping off the Betras bandwagon?,.. Unreal.

Where I don't know the angle intent nor possible origin of opposition { real or feigned } for what brings this oddity on. However, it's not the norm and to pick something like a text message to do it is just surreal,.. to say the least.

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7mrblue(1175 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

I wonder how Mr. Betras will feel when Mr. Ryan loses his power. It could very well happen.

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8Nunya(1356 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

@ mrblue

I think the operative term here is Ryan WILL lose his positional committee power, Considerably more than any questioning of if it will happen.

It'll show what Tim is really made of and having the elected position to make a difference is all he needs,.. lets see if he navigates like that.

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9Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Nunya :

So you're one of the select few who holds Betras in high esteem ? I question his judgement in bringing Barney to The Valley .

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10DJ0(72 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

...next time someone talks about bringing Barney to the valley, make sure it's the purple dinosaur!

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11davidjohn(144 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

what disappoints

but doesnt surprise

mr desouza makes no comment

about the vulgarity

he goes about the column

as if this is acceptable language

our leaders even political leaders

should be more dignified

despite our differences

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12candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Was the text sent while on 680 or passing by sxxx hxxx Humphries house?


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13borylie(953 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Bert,I for the most part take exceptions to articles you write. But,I've said in the past that the Vindy is afraid of the loud mouth democrats downtown that they see everyday. In this case you've proven me wrong and outed this narcisstic,egomaniacal nut case. Does anyone believe this guy cares more for The Valley than himself?

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14tookie(64 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Dave is out of control; losing it might be a better word. Certainly a major disappointment for trying to crucify Tom Humphries, someone who tried to work closely with Betras to improve econ development for the area.

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15Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

My New Years prediction . . ..

Dave Betras reinventing himself to gain attention .

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16Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Vindy.com Mobile - The Valley's Mobile Homepage for local news ...Nov 3, 2010 ... JamittinJoe Joseph Betras What would I do without coors light ... JamittinJoe Joseph Betras Ice cold brewskies finally! 8 Aug ...

VERY UNCOOL JOE ! We miss your tweets !


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17Spectator(6 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

I am a young person who moved back to Youngstown in recent years. I love the fact that we have a locally owned newspaper and I love the fact that we are still an independent media market. I have never commented on this website before, and I may never do so again. This post, and the comments attached to it, are not legitimate journalism. David Betras may be an imperfect man, but neither this post nor its comments are worthy of publication. There is such a thing as legitimate news coverage, and there is such a thing as throwing garbage at a wall to see what sticks. This entire article is the latter, and while I am often a fan of Bertram D'Souza, today he should be ashamed.

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18Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Spectator :

"David Betras may be an imperfect man, "

Naw, he is a perfect far left liberal . Give credidt where credit is due ! Ask not what Betras can do for Youngstown but what Youngstown can do for Betras .

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19candystriper(575 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Just another self-absorbed baby boomer...facing Medicare.


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20Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Betras is an entity unto himself !

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21republicanRick(1741 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Spectator, you have it wrong that this story on Betras is not newsworthy. For too long the Vindicator did not present this type of background info on politicians; with stories like this we can now understand the true character, or lack thereof, of our politicians.

Be warned Spectator, the most dangerous place in Youngstown is if you accidently get between Dave Betras and a camera -- you'd be taking your life in your hands.

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22Stan(9923 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

Betras will march for whomever gives him a retainer .

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23captainlinger(663 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

is it far more revealing that traficant ranks higher than ryan in top new stories, or that the billboard advertising ambulance chaser actually knows how to reach betras on his cell?

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24captainlinger(663 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

(i meant knows how to reach bertram on his cell)

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25piak(508 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

The Vindy's publishing of Democratic Party news is "strictly business".

When and if the Republicans come out of their hiding places and put some viable candidates on the ballot, there might be a return to the two-party system.

Betras's popping off in the paper with that disgraceful rant, should have infuriated all citizens of this valley. And it certainly did not! He should have been told off; did the Republican Chairman send a reply/challenge to him? No, just silence. WHO is Betras to set rules where any party can or can not campaign for votes? And no one caught that ukase/edict of his?

Any political reporters or columnists out there? Anywhere? Someone....?

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26davidjohn(144 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago


i called my precinct committeeman and complained how offensive it was

its the holiday and things are a bit quiet

but he told me has spoken to a few people who are offended

maybe this story will grow within the party

i agree with you

the republicans are lame locally

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27captainlinger(663 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

i just realized that, with the size of dave's self-admitted ego, his head on those billboards is actual size.

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28g2onice(17 comments)posted 5 years, 7 months ago

...I like a good joke. the words "ranting and raving" in an editorial piece? Seems like... a joke, "jokey journalism." What is funny and apparently worthy of "toasting" "Egocentric 2011, Chairman" David Betras about? Bertram, besides David Betras, I am curious, maybe you would like to let the rest of the people who were born in the Mahoning Valley in on your joke?! Are we having anything good to toast with? some canei? some maltini and rossi aste spumante? molson ice? what? something else besides nonalcoholic, chickory coffee, warm or cold mystery beverage or tap water, are we gonna live a little and have alcoholic lol "non-mahoning county or other county lol mostly non alcoholic, make no mistake...jail drinks?" alcoholic drinks? what kind of toast is it if you are having a toast with non-alcoholic drinks you get in the mahoning county jail? I can tell u first hand mahoning county jail sure as h*ll ain't catered by, you won't be getting any lol anheuser busch superior beverage quality products lol in mahoning county jail! lol at least not the "good stuff'"anyways! lol

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291loaf(100 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

David should stick to his primary employment,blackmailing insurance companys with clients who respond to his huckster type adds!

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