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10 good things about Obama's budget

By Tyler S. Clark (Contact)


Published March 2, 2009

1. Begins the process of addressing the problems of our health care system with a $634 billion down payment.

2. Cuts taxes for 95% of working Americans.

3. Invests in clean energy technology with more than $100 billion.

4. Begins the withdrawal from Iraq. It doesn't happen as soon as one might like, but it does happen on a firm timetable, freeing up nearly ten billion dollars a month that we're spending there now.

5. Lets expensive and irresponsible tax cuts for wealthiest Americans expire, reversing widening income disparity.

6. Ends big-oil's multi-billion-dollar tax loopholes. Exxon/Mobil posted another record profit last year; they won't be hurting.

7. Helps families pay for college with the largest increase in grant funding ever.

8. I still don't believe this one, but it promises to cut the deficit in half by 2013. We'll see...

9. Caps global-warming-causing pollution and forces polluters to fund advances in clean energy.

10. Includes the costs of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan outright, rather than hiding them in follow-up emergency requests.

Thanks to MoveOn.org for this list.


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1tylersclark(182 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

The majority party in Congress frequently squashes debate through a quick-vote process. This is a parliamentary prerogative, not one owned by either party. As for the Marxist claim, perhaps you can back that up with some specific points/facts?

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2Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

My God, My God.

Let's just say that entitlements are a good thing. Why then, would we steal money from our children to pay for ours? Don't we want to protect our children, instead of robbing them? Does any lib out there actually think they'll be able to run deficits too to pay for their and our entitlements?

The $13/paycheck tax cut will be readily wiped out by higher fuel costs and inflation.

I share the nonpartisan CBO's concern, as well as several nobel-winning economists concerns about the harm this budget and already-passed stimulus package will cause.

Where has socialized medicine worked? Do you want rationed and delayed care like in the NHS or Canadian system. Is CMS and Medicaid not financially endangered despite being a huge finacial liability to the Fedral Government? Why did the State of Hawai'i repeal its pediatric socialized medicine program?

When FDR and President Carter raised income taxes, what was the result? When Clinton cut the capital gains taxes, and Presidents Kennedy,Bush 43 and Reagan cut the personal income taxes, the economy improved.

Think libs. Even if socialism works (it never has before), what is so compassionate about stealing from your children to pay for a better life for you?

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3Woody(451 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Tyler,

This budget is a MASSIVE redistribution of wealth. And you had to steal from Moveon to get the list Tyler. Talk about the blind leading the blind. If you think George Soros has our best interests at heart, think again. He is the king of socialism. You need to wake up my friend.

Lets look at Moveon's list, my comments are in parentheses.

1. Begins the process of addressing the problems of our health care system with a $634 billion down payment. (Because socialized medicine has been SO successful in other parts of the world.)

2. Cuts taxes for 95% of working Americans.
(That extra $13 dollars a week will come in handy, Thanks Obama. Lets not forget the tax increases of about $1 trillion dollars for the other 5%. They already pay over 40% of the nations taxes now. Not to mention that it is these to 5% that create a majority of the jobs. )

3. Invests in clean energy technology with more than $100 billion. (more money being wasted, we have an abundance of coal here in the US, lets learn how to

4. Begins the withdrawal from Iraq. It doesn't happen as soon as one might like, but it does happen on a firm timetable, freeing up nearly ten billion dollars a month that we're spending there now. (so we leave before the job is done, so we have to go back and clean it up at a greater expense later. GREAT!!)

5. Lets expensive and irresponsible tax cuts for wealthiest Americans expire, reversing widening income disparity. (See above)

6. Ends big-oil's multi-billion-dollar tax loopholes. Exxon/Mobil posted another record profit last year; they won't be hurting.
(So in order to stay profitable, they are going to pass these tax increases along to the customer. Wait now I know where the $13 per week is going to go.)

7. Helps families pay for college with the largest increase in grant funding ever.
(This is actually not a bad idea.)

8. I still don't believe this one, but it promises to cut the deficit in half by 2013. We'll see...
(They base this on the belief that the economy will be in recovery by then. But the same programs that Obama is implementing, are the same that FDR did, and it caused us to stay in the Great Depression longer then we would have, so yeah Tyler, don't believe it.)

9. Caps global-warming-causing pollution and forces polluters to fund advances in clean energy.
(massive redistribution of wealth from the US and other

10. Includes the costs of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan outright, rather than hiding them in follow-up emergency requests.
(Not bad, unlike hiding all the pork in the Stimulus by forcing it through congress, "because a delay would be disastrous". Yet Obama delayed signing it, so he could take Air Force One to Chicago to go out to dinner with Michelle. All the while he is talking about the excesses of business Executives and about reducing our carbon footprint.)

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4Tugboat(759 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

So when this stimulus package and bailouts are finally declared failures, will the Republicans be blamed for not fighting them enough???

The IRS is already looking more closely at your 'gifts to charity.' Non-qualified organizations and individuals will see less help as a result. They'll have to turn to the government as a result. So its a zero sum gain.

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5apollo(1227 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

Contrary to what Nonsocialist says Government run single payer health care in Canada is far superior to our current private sector run health care. Europes health care and France in particular is way better than ours. American health care is in complete shambles with nearly 50 million uninsured, costs skyrocketing and causing businesses to go under. How Nonsocialist can argue against a government run single payer system is simply stunning!

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6JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 5 years, 6 months ago

These posts are even more amusing than I expected they'd be. Keep them coming.

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7jimiohoh(86 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Caring for illegals is the tip of the iceberg, caring for thier American children will be the problem. Don,t forget, they get to vote in 18 years and then the fun begins. Do you speak Spanish?

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8Tugboat(759 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

This just in:
http://www.alternet.org/story/128920/...

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9jimiohoh(86 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Right, and the Browns are going to win the superbowl this coming season. If you don't speak spanish in the boarder states you can't even work in goverment.

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10Erplane(482 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Quick comments:
1) Tyler and all, I recommend checking out today's David Brooks piece in the New York Times. I wish I could have said it myself. The budget has some great and long overdue ambitions, but I feel Obama is taking advantage of the current economic crisis to revamp the philosophy of America. We went through 8 years of being too far to the right, and now here we go too far to the left. If these plans fail, then the angry right will seize the opportunity. Rush Limbaugh will be vindicated, and that god awful scenerio gets worse.
2) The cost of the budget is predicated on too much uncertainty. Your point number 8 should be point 2 or 3. He gets points for putting all facets of spending in there, but then wants to say its okay to spend more b/c I acknowledge it all
3) I am a major proponent of english only in America. Case in point. My friend teaches immigrant kids in Denver. But not hispanic, but kids from Namibia, China, Brazil, etc. These kids have to learn english b/c their mother tongue is never spoken. When these kids are graduating high school, their placement score are MUCH higher than hispanic kids who had lessons taught in Spanish. When my grandparents came from eastern europe, they learned english.

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11Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Apollo or anybody else who believes in socialized medicine,

When something is free, more of it is consumed. We see that now with Medicare and especially Medicaid. Every nation that has socialized medicine has realized that it must control costs either through delayed or denied care. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

Are you so impressed with the solvency of Medicare, Medicaid and the VA medical system that you want the same inept government to run all of our medical care? Seriously, what do you think is going to happen.

All of this socialism is all about electoral and government dependency. Don't think for a second there is a noble motive behind it.

There are a multitude of other solutions involving free market solutions, electronic medical records and reduction of hospitalizations through proper ED screening. When you nominate tax cheats for HHS, these solutions, however, are never on the radar.

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12jimiohoh(86 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Let's get back to Obama's budget. Late today he said now is the time to buy stocks. Tell this to the people in the valley.
Now the quote of the new year.
"Now, if people don't change how they use energy, then they will face higher costs for energy" Geither
I want him to look at the average gas and electric bills we have here. Gasoline by this time next year, with the oil companies and new taxes, will be over 4.00 and rising. Yes, new taxes to make up for revenues lost from the cut back in use. But don't forget about the $13.00. Now, doesn't that make it all feel better?
W was to far to the left, that's what got us here!

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13epicfail(217 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Tyler,

I'd have to add my own addendum to the good things in Obama's budget: It brings out all the reactionary "MUST RESPOND IN CAPS" types faster than a Thomas Maskell screed.

I agree with JeffLebowski, very entertaining stuff indeed!

Cheers

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14valleyred(1097 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

All I know is everyone was on President Bush for spending too much, INCLUDING ME, but this is just a ridiculous amount of money.

The funny thing is in the same week he announces he is going to cut the deficit. Only way that will happen is if he really does raise taxes on everyone, which can tack another year or two onto this recession.

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15tylersclark(182 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

Who is "Key"?

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16valleyred(1097 comments)posted 5 years, 5 months ago

HAHAHA Apollo, are you kidding me. Maybe in your socialist mind do you think universal health care is good, but it is terrible for most Americans.

The last thing I want is someone else telling me what hospital to go to or what doctors I am supposed to attend.

Ever read the stories of people with broken arms and legs that don't get TREATMENT for weeks because it isn't bad enough to get treatment right away.

God help our country. This change is way too radical for me.

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