Wow! An all liberal lineup! So leftist indoctrination is alive and well at YSU I see.
September 8, 2015 at 5:47 p.m.
Thank you Todd for exposing this underhanded destructive program by the Youngstown police Dept.! I hope this article, along with the soon to be heard outcry from those stung will bring a quick end to this insane program. The limit on 680 as well as most of our roads are set too low. Speed laws are meant to catch those few who travel way above the average speed on the road, not to ticket everyone going above a certain arbitrary speed.
On a section of road that 85 to 90% drive 65 mph, but is posted 50 mph, the logical conclusion is that the speed limit is too low. Speed laws are meant to catch the 5% who are going 75.
September 6, 2015 at 2:19 p.m.
Those speed limits are way too low! If traffic is already averaging 60 mph in a 50 zone, that means raise the limit to 60! Speed laws ideally are to catch those going much faster than the average flow of traffic, whatever speed that may be.
Their BS excuse falls apart when you see the officer on the straight stretch of 680 east of Meridian Road. Traffic is safe to move at a higher speed on that section because it is straight, so ticketing those on that part is not promoting safety.
This crap needs to go away and go away now!
September 5, 2015 at 7:26 a.m.
Use your eyes people!!! If traffic day in and day out are going 60 to 65 on I-680 with only occasional accidents, that should be proof enough that those speeds are safe.
What can an engineer do with his traffic models and simulations that is a better predictor than tens of thousands of vehicles per day going those speeds?
The highway patrol loves to sit in the crossover on the straight stretch east of meridian Road. This is still 50 mph, and obviously with it being straight that low speed is not there for safety. Why not sit at the tight curve at the 62 and 7 exit instead? That is the most dangerous part of 680, not some straight stretch!
September 3, 2015 at 7:48 a.m.
Yes, I'm in full agreement with Dagwood. So you'll stick up for a government agency but us "needy" homeowners keep getting the shaft.
the Democrat party sure talks about helping the middle class but when it comes time to act, they always turn their backs on us!
September 3, 2015 at 7:37 a.m.
Let me ask all of you, where did the speed limit numbers come from? Was it divine intervention? Did God himself set those speed limits? Of course not. But where then did they come from? And why are those numbers the optimum speed at which going faster than that number makes you unsafe?
If you start researching the subject of speed limits, and reading through some of the myriad studies done over the years, you will come to understand that the current speed limits on most roads flies in the face of prudent human behavior. People generally do not speed because they are in a hurry, they do so because that is what their experience, skills and judgement tells them is a speed that balances safety and the value of their time.
When a road has a speed limit that is set so low that the vast majority of motorists exceed it, it is not because all those motorists are wrong. It is because the limit is set too low.
The proper way to set a speed limit is to do a traffic study. Record the speed of vehicles traveling over a certain section of road for a period of time. Plug all those numbers into a spreadsheet and determine at what speed 85% of the vehicles are traveling at. That number rounded to the nearest 5 mph should be the new posted speed limit. The way govt. does it is to pick some arbitrary number out of their rear end and slap it on a sign, regardless of what the drivers out there are actually saying through their actions.
According to the Solomon Curve, the dangerous drivers are not those at the 85th percentile, it is those traveling above and those traveling way below. So if on I-680 the 85th percentile is 60 mph, that is actually the safest speed at which to drive while those at 50 mph are creating a traffic hazard nearly as great as those going 70 are creating.
This is all backed up by science.
August 29, 2015 at 9:25 p.m.
I do a lot of driving, and everywhere I go the flow of traffic is at least 10 mph above the posted speed limit. When the vast majority of motorists on a particular road is going above the limit, logic suggests that the limit is too low. Furthermore, about 99% of the traffic driving at those higher speeds do so safely. About 1% of the traffic or less are involved in accidents and usually the cause is an inattentive or drunk driver or some sort of unexpected maneuver by another vehicle.
50 MPH on I-680 in certain areas is way to low. In other areas it is right. And that changes depending upon the amount of traffic, time of day and the weather. Arbitrary speed limits are helpful to no one, except for the police who take advantage of a situation in which speed limits are set so low that they practically force people to disobey them. Contrary to popular belief, driving above the speed limit is generally not an unsafe act.
August 28, 2015 at 10:11 p.m.
All of this time and expense wasted over govt. sticking their noses onto private property. Everyone involved has better things they could be doing with their time.
August 1, 2015 at 9:21 a.m.
WFMJ and the Jambar covered it in April.
July 19, 2015 at 8:26 p.m.
Sounds like the mayor tied to work with council, but council sat on their rears and did nothing. City Council, you actually have to take seriously the running of the city!
July 11, 2015 at 9:06 a.m.