The suburban school district MO has been similar; overpay teachers with overvalued property tax money collected during the housing booms (Boardman in the late 80s/early 90s, Poland and Canfield pretty much since then) and then beg for more when the coffers run dry. A teacher with a masters in Youngstown between 35-40 years makes only about 62,000. Teachers with 10 years are making that much in the suburbs. All the facts are on buckeyeinstitute.org. It's not jealousy, it's fact. Most of the city teachers (many of which live in suburbs) also feel that rather than being underpaid, teachers out here are overpaid. The things they deal with in the classroom are miniscule compared to dealing with the disadvantaged inner-city youth. There will be people coming on here saying how great the suburban teachers are but they are no different than their peers in the city, considering most teachers locally receive their degrees from the same area universities. Boardman negotiated a balanced budget by instituting wage freezes/health care concessions. Does Poland do the same or do they stubbornly push levies like Canfield? Students and their parents drive ratings through a strong upbringing, not all teachers.
Crime happens everywhere, but whereas in Canfield something like this is extremely rare, this is commonplace in Youngstown. Trust me you can't be sane and feel safe driving through the war zone (south side or east side) at most times during the day!
Location is most important. You have beautiful homes in and around the Glen coming under fire but the 24x28 postwar type neighborhood near Glenwood and the Stadium is just fine for the most part. Unforturnately for Boardman (exception of the Glen and the part by Cornersburg along Tippecanoe) and some of Poland/Struthers, the smallest housing stock in most communities is found right along the edge of Youngstown.
I turned down going to Notre Dame (yes, the one in South Bend) to attend YSU. Some of the great academic programs, such as the University Scholars and BS/MD programs which attract top students were created by you guessed it, administrators. Harry Meshel (a Democrat nonetheless) helped created NEOUCOM. I also do not take any federal aid thank you very much. All you're doing is hurting yourselves when you resort to personal attacks. Look at an OEA mailing, its political propaganda. My mom has taught for 40 years now and has seen more of the education system than most of you could ever think of. She's also only been a Republican leaning voter the last few years. Thankfully she's not the only non socialist Democrat teacher I've encountered. In fact, two of my favorite (and the best) teachers at Boardman High School we're Conservative/Libertarian. My AP Government teacher was and still is one of the best teachers at the school and my AP English teacher was a fan of Ayn Rand and lectured from "Freakonomics" in a summer Economics class. These people are not idiots. In fact, they should be held in higher regard for not towing the popular party line.
I know Mr. Beil personally. For a college student, he works harder than most people I know. He has two jobs and is taking over 20 credit hours to finish his degree in 2 years. It's clear that Jupiter has run out of intelligent attacks because he/she has now stooped to a new low to attack the man personally. SB5 is all about creating accountability and fairness.
Supporting SB5 isn't rejecting academia and higher education. Many business and medical professionals with advanced degrees support SB5. Heck my mom who is a public school teacher supports SB5. The Unions need to lose some of their power. I asked my mom why they didn't even consider going on strike when they've agreed to contracts with pay freezes for YEARS. She said there was no point because of the climate and the likelihood that the offers wouldn't get any better. Professors at state institutions should be fortunate for the relatively low amounts they need to contribute to health care plans. It's also incredibly ignorant to dismiss all conservatives as not supporting academics. I think professors just like to pick on us because we refuse to bow down to them and their sick liberal views. Sorry, but someone wearing an Obama shirt to lecture isn't going to make me change my mind. The materials are fascinating, some of the views of the people who present them are not so fascinating. But this should not be an opportunity to attack the professors for their teaching. It cannot be stated enough how good a job many of them do. But the reality of the matter is the university is in a financial shortfall. They haven't had any additional reserve funds the last three years. The faculty wants that money for their salaries. It would be smart to accept the current offer, because SB5 is knocking and will hopefully take effect so that disputes like this don't even happen anymore.
Dr. Linkon wants everyone to feel sorry for her with the concessions she has to make of $5-10K. But sorry, Sherry, the public knows you and your husband (chair of Working Class studies might I add) Dr. John Russo have a combined household income of nearly $200,000! Your PR stunt failed.
Poland district resists closing an elementary school
The suburban school district MO has been similar; overpay teachers with overvalued property tax money collected during the housing booms (Boardman in the late 80s/early 90s, Poland and Canfield pretty much since then) and then beg for more when the coffers run dry. A teacher with a masters in Youngstown between 35-40 years makes only about 62,000. Teachers with 10 years are making that much in the suburbs. All the facts are on buckeyeinstitute.org. It's not jealousy, it's fact. Most of the city teachers (many of which live in suburbs) also feel that rather than being underpaid, teachers out here are overpaid. The things they deal with in the classroom are miniscule compared to dealing with the disadvantaged inner-city youth. There will be people coming on here saying how great the suburban teachers are but they are no different than their peers in the city, considering most teachers locally receive their degrees from the same area universities. Boardman negotiated a balanced budget by instituting wage freezes/health care concessions. Does Poland do the same or do they stubbornly push levies like Canfield? Students and their parents drive ratings through a strong upbringing, not all teachers.
January 15, 2012 at 7:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Gun prank leads to charges for Canfield mom, son’s friend
Crime happens everywhere, but whereas in Canfield something like this is extremely rare, this is commonplace in Youngstown. Trust me you can't be sane and feel safe driving through the war zone (south side or east side) at most times during the day!
January 12, 2012 at 1:05 a.m. permalink suggest removal
335 marijuana plants seized at Canfield home
looks like caarlstatz needs to expand the "drug zone" out even more than it already is!
January 11, 2012 at 2:19 a.m. permalink suggest removal
FBI: Gangs move south to Boardman
Location is most important. You have beautiful homes in and around the Glen coming under fire but the 24x28 postwar type neighborhood near Glenwood and the Stadium is just fine for the most part. Unforturnately for Boardman (exception of the Glen and the part by Cornersburg along Tippecanoe) and some of Poland/Struthers, the smallest housing stock in most communities is found right along the edge of Youngstown.
September 15, 2011 at 10:32 p.m. permalink suggest removal
More poverty, competition challenge Boardman schools
will this article actually show up???
September 12, 2011 at 5:28 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Strike threat shows need for SB5
I turned down going to Notre Dame (yes, the one in South Bend) to attend YSU. Some of the great academic programs, such as the University Scholars and BS/MD programs which attract top students were created by you guessed it, administrators. Harry Meshel (a Democrat nonetheless) helped created NEOUCOM. I also do not take any federal aid thank you very much. All you're doing is hurting yourselves when you resort to personal attacks. Look at an OEA mailing, its political propaganda. My mom has taught for 40 years now and has seen more of the education system than most of you could ever think of. She's also only been a Republican leaning voter the last few years. Thankfully she's not the only non socialist Democrat teacher I've encountered. In fact, two of my favorite (and the best) teachers at Boardman High School we're Conservative/Libertarian. My AP Government teacher was and still is one of the best teachers at the school and my AP English teacher was a fan of Ayn Rand and lectured from "Freakonomics" in a summer Economics class. These people are not idiots. In fact, they should be held in higher regard for not towing the popular party line.
August 26, 2011 at 6:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Strike threat shows need for SB5
I know Mr. Beil personally. For a college student, he works harder than most people I know. He has two jobs and is taking over 20 credit hours to finish his degree in 2 years. It's clear that Jupiter has run out of intelligent attacks because he/she has now stooped to a new low to attack the man personally. SB5 is all about creating accountability and fairness.
August 26, 2011 at 5:49 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Strike threat shows need for SB5
Supporting SB5 isn't rejecting academia and higher education. Many business and medical professionals with advanced degrees support SB5. Heck my mom who is a public school teacher supports SB5. The Unions need to lose some of their power. I asked my mom why they didn't even consider going on strike when they've agreed to contracts with pay freezes for YEARS. She said there was no point because of the climate and the likelihood that the offers wouldn't get any better. Professors at state institutions should be fortunate for the relatively low amounts they need to contribute to health care plans. It's also incredibly ignorant to dismiss all conservatives as not supporting academics. I think professors just like to pick on us because we refuse to bow down to them and their sick liberal views. Sorry, but someone wearing an Obama shirt to lecture isn't going to make me change my mind. The materials are fascinating, some of the views of the people who present them are not so fascinating. But this should not be an opportunity to attack the professors for their teaching. It cannot be stated enough how good a job many of them do. But the reality of the matter is the university is in a financial shortfall. They haven't had any additional reserve funds the last three years. The faculty wants that money for their salaries. It would be smart to accept the current offer, because SB5 is knocking and will hopefully take effect so that disputes like this don't even happen anymore.
August 26, 2011 at 5:32 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YSU faculty vote results expected by 8 p.m.
SB5! SB5! SB5!
August 25, 2011 at 4:48 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Union says it has YSU’s final, best offer
Dr. Linkon wants everyone to feel sorry for her with the concessions she has to make of $5-10K. But sorry, Sherry, the public knows you and your husband (chair of Working Class studies might I add) Dr. John Russo have a combined household income of nearly $200,000! Your PR stunt failed.
August 24, 2011 at 5:35 p.m. permalink suggest removal