Sorry had to drop another comment...I just think it is crazy...this case mostly affected people who don't even live in the valley or even know it exists and it is in the paper and on the news daily.
How about this case where these people actually caused people who were already down and out to even lose their homes because of fraud...no names of the people who did it are even given...
02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Arraignment 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris 02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Change of Plea Hearing 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris 02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Initial Appearance 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris
@ptd1102 - Well...I won't post again until the sentencing date has came and more facts have been released. All I know is there are 3 sides to every story, in this case...there are about 8.
@ptd1102 - Wow! There are a good amount of people who feel the exact way that you do.
@Reds - Have you not read any of my posts? I am not going to say that Kevin is innocent. But again usually the FALL GUY is not 100% innocent. Usually they get blinded by the money and this and that and the other...and then next thing they know...everyone has run off with money and they are left holding the bag.
@censoredhip; Facts :) see what you can find out by looking up facts? I am not going to say any level of Kim's involvement in the the Start Up of CDL...but I will say the Alphabet boys aren't stupid and a person should be charged depending on their level of involvement and knowledge of a crime along with their cooperation!
David J. Harriett was sentenced to 68 months in prison for executing a Ponzi scheme that defrauded approximately 200 people out of about $7 million, Steven M. Dettelbach, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, announced today.
So...really its the $$$ the prosecutor starts with and according to the CFTC the number being looked at is 8.1 million...if 7 million got DJ 68 months...there is no way 8.1 million is going to get someone 20 or 30 years...not unless there are bodies attached to to it!
@censoredship - Im just a seeker of facts every thing I say is based upon court records. Can you at least say the same about your accusations? Probably not.
Read the whole CTFC Filing...it too can be found online...
Defendant Complete Developments LLC is a North Carolina limited liability company that was incorporated in July 2006 by Kevin Harris and another individual. In October 2006, CDL was also incorporated in Delaware as a limited liability company
But the Vindy posts: March 2004: Convicted in Youngstown federal court of identity theft and credit card fraud, sentenced to 33 months in federal prison, three years’ probation, ordered to pay $156,848 restitution, released from prison in November 2006.
Please do the math...CDL was already a company before the convict was released...eh?
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
Sorry had to drop another comment...I just think it is crazy...this case mostly affected people who don't even live in the valley or even know it exists and it is in the paper and on the news daily.
How about this case where these people actually caused people who were already down and out to even lose their homes because of fraud...no names of the people who did it are even given...
http://tribtoday.com/page/content.det...
November 7, 2010 at 12:28 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Harris expected to plead guilty
02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Arraignment 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris
02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Change of Plea Hearing 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris
02:00 Limbert ctrm242 Initial Appearance 4:10-cr-00437-LW United States of America vs.Harris
November 3, 2010 at 1:05 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
@ptd1102 - Well...I won't post again until the sentencing date has came and more facts have been released. All I know is there are 3 sides to every story, in this case...there are about 8.
October 19, 2010 at 8:07 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
@ptd1102 - Last but not least...anyone can attend the sentencing...it will be done in the Federal Court House in Cleveland at a future date:
801 West Superior Avenue
Cleveland, Ohio 44113
(216) 357-7000
October 18, 2010 at 1:55 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
@ptd1102 - Wow! There are a good amount of people who feel the exact way that you do.
@Reds - Have you not read any of my posts? I am not going to say that Kevin is innocent. But again usually the FALL GUY is not 100% innocent. Usually they get blinded by the money and this and that and the other...and then next thing they know...everyone has run off with money and they are left holding the bag.
"Are there deeper roots to this whole thing?"
October 18, 2010 at 1:49 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
@anon123 - Again thank you very much for pointing out some FACTS!
Now lets see what the CFTC has to say about that:
"approximately $3.5 million (including approximately $2.3 million during the Relevant Period) was transferred to RAK."(UAE,Dubai)
and
"Upon information and belief, Starr currently resides in the United Arab Emirates."(RAK,Dubai)
Follow the money!
October 12, 2010 at 12:47 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Warren brothers targeted in Ponzi lawsuit
@censoredhip; Facts :) see what you can find out by looking up facts? I am not going to say any level of Kim's involvement in the the Start Up of CDL...but I will say the Alphabet boys aren't stupid and a person should be charged depending on their level of involvement and knowledge of a crime along with their cooperation!
Let's just say...they will follow the money...
October 11, 2010 at 8:11 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
And I forgot about this guy:
David J. Harriett was sentenced to 68 months in prison for executing a Ponzi scheme that defrauded approximately 200 people out of about $7 million, Steven M. Dettelbach, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, announced today.
So...really its the $$$ the prosecutor starts with and according to the CFTC the number being looked at is 8.1 million...if 7 million got DJ 68 months...there is no way 8.1 million is going to get someone 20 or 30 years...not unless there are bodies attached to to it!
October 11, 2010 at 7:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Feds file charges in Ponzi scheme against Kevin Harris
censoredship@ - ...what matters is what the Honorable Leslie Wells has to say...based on what information the Alphabet boys and the DA have to provide
October 11, 2010 at 5:22 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Warren brothers targeted in Ponzi lawsuit
@censoredship - Im just a seeker of facts every thing I say is based upon court records. Can you at least say the same about your accusations? Probably not.
Read the whole CTFC Filing...it too can be found online...
Defendant Complete Developments LLC is a North Carolina limited liability company that was incorporated in July 2006 by Kevin Harris and another individual. In October 2006, CDL was also incorporated in Delaware as a limited liability company
But the Vindy posts:
March 2004: Convicted in Youngstown federal court of identity theft and credit card fraud, sentenced to 33 months in federal prison, three years’ probation, ordered to pay $156,848 restitution, released from prison in November 2006.
Please do the math...CDL was already a company before the convict was released...eh?
October 11, 2010 at 5:08 p.m. permalink suggest removal