After all the cuts the board has made, the are still CONSIDERING fees for pay-to-play. So they tick off everyone with the Taj of sports stadiums, then sit around scratching their head as to what cuts can be made. Sure, it doesn't save a huge sum but it sends the right message. It is really too bad many students and good programs will have to suffer because of these bonehead (even pigheaded) decisions. Back at the candidates night many talked about more public involvement. Apparently they only want to listen to those who are more concerned with a winning football team than with education.
Just regarding the safety of large trucks, I would note that I have driven large, heavy vehicles and I am certain they do not mix well with the average size car no matter who is at the wheel. If that driver is a poor driver, distracted, or just plain stupid, then a bad situation gets much worse and the results make the news. And get off the cell phone kick. They are just another distraction. Changing the radio, eating, etc. all are distractions. I'm much more worried about a hot cup of coffee landing in my lap (a big distraction) than a phone conversation where I can say "hold on" and toss the phone if necessary.
Since when does a city pay a landowner to improve their property? Many, if not most, cities assess property owners based on frontage for sidewalks. What's up with this crap? Why is the only news that the village is "negotiating" with these fine citizens?
Anybody notice how most of these fatal accidents start with "a truck" and then go on to detail what it hit. How many people have to die before we accept the simple fact of physics that 40 ton vehicles do not mix well with 1 ton (and less) cars?
When companies are faced with declining revenues, what do they do? Raise their prices? Certainly not. They cut back and CONSOLIDATE. Why do all these little bergs insist on keeping their own little kingdoms? What is the current relevance of Campbell, Lowellville, and many others. Pick any 2 towns nearby each other and a strong argument can be made for CONSOLIDATION. One mayor, one police chief, one road supervisor, etc, etc. We could save more than any tax increase will bring in. WHY do we expect less of our government than our private corporations? Expand this idea to roads, bridges, sewers, etc.and the savings could be staggering. Let's face it, this area has 1/3 the people it had 20-30 years ago. How is it logical we need the same size governments? I'm not picking on Lowelville in particular - ALL valley communities owe it to the taxpayers to seriously consider this approach in ALL matters, not just a few tokens. Yes, some mayors, councilpeople and such will be out of a job but we will have a more efficient government and that's the BEST way to lower taxes.
Where is there a "right" for the public to know the negotiations of a company? Some of the Forum facilities USED TO BE public but the public chose to sell them, take the money, and run. If you sell me your house, you don't get to tell me I can't cut down the hedges. Same here. The public got their money and they are done. If Youngstown and all the other "whiners" want a say in this negotiation, they need to put up some bucks and buy part of the company. Unless you've got a law or contract to the contrary, there is no requirement for Forum to do anything other than what they are doing.
Where is it written that operating a hospital is really a jobs program in disguise? This area has 1/3 of the people it had when these places were built. It defies logic that the area needs the same number of hospital beds/facilities as when there were 3 times the population. How many business owners think a primary obligation of their company is to provide jobs even if they cost the company more than they make?
So: 1. Jobs at any cost 2. Moving from one building to another one is progress???? 3. AS ALWAYS with zoning changes (annexation, etc) the owner knew of the restrictions and possibilities when he bought the place (got the license). Youngstown doesn't need another empty building.
Seems like everyone here thinks the commissioners are the root of the problem - let's take that as a given. Voting against the sales tax is a bit like turning off the heat in a house you own. Pretty soon pipes break and other things go wrong. All of the people you criticize above are elected. If you don't like what they do - and really ALL of them are bad, not one good one? - then you should focus on voting them out of office. This "sending a message" stuff is crap. You flatter yourselves. The only real way to save taxpayer dollars is cutting duplication of services. Just how many mayors, city councils, zoning inspectors, and the like do we need? Consolidation - not only of services - but of political subdivisions is the only way to save some real bucks. Of course, that also removes a lot of opportunity for payroll padding that everyone is sure is taking place in all county offices. There are 2/3 less people here than were here 20 years ago but those left still support all these little towns and jobs. Really, is Campbell still a viable city? Wake up, look around, and work (not b&*^h) for real change.
Even Kentucky has a law that you can't come back to the voter with ANY issue again for 12-18 months. The casino thing finally passed and look how long they've been beating that horse.
ELECTION UPDATE | Voters OK most Valley levies
After all the cuts the board has made, the are still CONSIDERING fees for pay-to-play. So they tick off everyone with the Taj of sports stadiums, then sit around scratching their head as to what cuts can be made. Sure, it doesn't save a huge sum but it sends the right message. It is really too bad many students and good programs will have to suffer because of these bonehead (even pigheaded) decisions. Back at the candidates night many talked about more public involvement. Apparently they only want to listen to those who are more concerned with a winning football team than with education.
March 9, 2012 at 9:58 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Semi driver not talking about accident
Just regarding the safety of large trucks, I would note that I have driven large, heavy vehicles and I am certain they do not mix well with the average size car no matter who is at the wheel. If that driver is a poor driver, distracted, or just plain stupid, then a bad situation gets much worse and the results make the news. And get off the cell phone kick. They are just another distraction. Changing the radio, eating, etc. all are distractions. I'm much more worried about a hot cup of coffee landing in my lap (a big distraction) than a phone conversation where I can say "hold on" and toss the phone if necessary.
April 11, 2010 at 11:17 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland officials plan for sidewalk
Since when does a city pay a landowner to improve their property? Many, if not most, cities assess property owners based on frontage for sidewalks. What's up with this crap? Why is the only news that the village is "negotiating" with these fine citizens?
April 11, 2010 at 11:04 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Semi driver not talking about accident
Anybody notice how most of these fatal accidents start with "a truck" and then go on to detail what it hit. How many people have to die before we accept the simple fact of physics that 40 ton vehicles do not mix well with 1 ton (and less) cars?
April 8, 2010 at 6:07 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Lowellville mayor: Tax increase needed
When companies are faced with declining revenues, what do they do? Raise their prices? Certainly not. They cut back and CONSOLIDATE. Why do all these little bergs insist on keeping their own little kingdoms? What is the current relevance of Campbell, Lowellville, and many others. Pick any 2 towns nearby each other and a strong argument can be made for CONSOLIDATION. One mayor, one police chief, one road supervisor, etc, etc. We could save more than any tax increase will bring in. WHY do we expect less of our government than our private corporations? Expand this idea to roads, bridges, sewers, etc.and the savings could be staggering. Let's face it, this area has 1/3 the people it had 20-30 years ago. How is it logical we need the same size governments? I'm not picking on Lowelville in particular - ALL valley communities owe it to the taxpayers to seriously consider this approach in ALL matters, not just a few tokens. Yes, some mayors, councilpeople and such will be out of a job but we will have a more efficient government and that's the BEST way to lower taxes.
February 5, 2010 at 10:25 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Forum board ponders future of a public asset in private
Where is there a "right" for the public to know the negotiations of a company? Some of the Forum facilities USED TO BE public but the public chose to sell them, take the money, and run. If you sell me your house, you don't get to tell me I can't cut down the hedges. Same here. The public got their money and they are done. If Youngstown and all the other "whiners" want a say in this negotiation, they need to put up some bucks and buy part of the company. Unless you've got a law or contract to the contrary, there is no requirement for Forum to do anything other than what they are doing.
December 7, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Bids for Forum due on Friday
Where is it written that operating a hospital is really a jobs program in disguise? This area has 1/3 of the people it had when these places were built. It defies logic that the area needs the same number of hospital beds/facilities as when there were 3 times the population. How many business owners think a primary obligation of their company is to provide jobs even if they cost the company more than they make?
November 12, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. permalink suggest removal
B.J. Alan seeks Austintown land
So:
1. Jobs at any cost
2. Moving from one building to another one is progress????
3. AS ALWAYS with zoning changes (annexation, etc) the owner knew of the restrictions and possibilities when he bought the place (got the license).
Youngstown doesn't need another empty building.
November 12, 2009 at 6:59 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Mahoning officials unite for vote in May
Seems like everyone here thinks the commissioners are the root of the problem - let's take that as a given. Voting against the sales tax is a bit like turning off the heat in a house you own. Pretty soon pipes break and other things go wrong.
All of the people you criticize above are elected. If you don't like what they do - and really ALL of them are bad, not one good one? - then you should focus on voting them out of office. This "sending a message" stuff is crap. You flatter yourselves. The only real way to save taxpayer dollars is cutting duplication of services. Just how many mayors, city councils, zoning inspectors, and the like do we need? Consolidation - not only of services - but of political subdivisions is the only way to save some real bucks. Of course, that also removes a lot of opportunity for payroll padding that everyone is sure is taking place in all county offices. There are 2/3 less people here than were here 20 years ago but those left still support all these little towns and jobs. Really, is Campbell still a viable city? Wake up, look around, and work (not b&*^h) for real change.
November 8, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. permalink suggest removal
AKAFR1
Even Kentucky has a law that you can't come back to the voter with ANY issue again for 12-18 months. The casino thing finally passed and look how long they've been beating that horse.
November 4, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. permalink suggest removal