They asked Michelle if she could be someone else, who? She said she wished she could be Beyonce. Once they asked President Obama who he'd like to be. He said he wished he could be a good president.
fd, I understand your points and your fight. I will say we see things pretty differently as to the problem and the fix. I saw a state in debt when Kasich took office. Maybe he steamrolled, but he has, in my opinion improved the employment for this state. I see our country moving towards 20 trillion in debt and no answer from our president after almost four years. I am from the school of never biting the hand that feeds you. That hand goes away, then what. I am all for good strong business and jobs in this country. But there must be compromise. Right now this country is as divided as it possibly can be, and it will get worse this summer and fall. I believe by strengthening our corporations and businesses, we do in fact strengthen the middle class. But I love a good discussion, some arguments, and hopefully ultimately improvements for all of us. You want that too. People just see things differently and approach problems with different solutions. You think Kasich is awful. I thought Strickland was awful. But we both want a stronger state, a stronger country, a stronger middle class. The answer is probably compromise. Some of each side. Right now, neither side seems willing to bend. Our stifling debt is a killer. It must be dealt with. Jobs must get better. It's a matter of how that is done and by whom. It will be an interesting summer and fall. But I do enjoy the discussion and I respect your opinions.
Well, it will be interesting to see, as I said to fd, if this 66 billion debt figure is close to being correct, 'cause one side isn't even in the ballpark. But things seem screwed up at every level of government, and each side absolutely seem to hate each other. I've seen people totally lose their pensions in years past because of greed and stubborness, and there is a reason every publically funded thing in the country seems to be deep deep in debt, and a big part of that seems to be the pension programs. I admire your passion and your fight for your viewpoint. But something is wrong somewhere and the only real answer is probably some sort of compromise on both sides, if that is even possible now days. Even in Ohio, the hate is deep.
Well I'm confused. I've got one major group telling me not all is wrong, but that the state public pension system is 66 billion in debt and needs fixed, and I've got you telling me the system is just a little broken and hardly needs fixed at all. You say they produced no figures. I haven't seen their figures, but I hope to. I haven't seen your figures either, and I hope to see those as well. You say they hate unions and I have an idea you really like unions. I see some good in unions and I see some bad in unions. But one of you is bsing me pretty badly, and I am pretty sure I'll find out who sometime in the not too distant future. And when that comes out as to which one is bsing me, believe me, that one's credibility will be shot with me. Can you just answer me this now, before we find out the Buckeye figures and your figures. If all is so well, and public stuff is so well funded and solvent now, why am I asked to pass a levy for public stuff everytime I turn around? Why are so many public people being laid off? Is someone bsing on that too?
fd, so you're saying everything is fine and any talk of debt or underfunding is a sham. O.K. we'll see if you're correct. Now, it doesn't have to be 66 billion in debt to be depleted, right. Anything in the hole is depleted, isn't it? But you're saying don't worry all is well? Just want to make certain you're saying it's all a right wing scam right? And you say the majority in Columbus go first. I say evryone goes together if it includes everyone's pension fund. No one first. All at the same time. But you say all is well and not to worry about funding changes or things either being in debt now or going into debt. So you vote for no changes to the funding system. Hope you're right.
tos, sounds to me like your real beef is with The Buckeye Institute. You feel the 66 billion figure is either incorrect, or if indeed it is correct, it is just being used to inflame? The amount of underfunded pension liabilities does matter, at least to anyone with any fiscal responsibilities. I only stated earlier it didn't matter because so often, debt and underfunded liablities of any amount, large or small, doesn't seem to matter to a lot of politicians. I'll say it again, I'm all for good benefits and pensions for one and all, as long as those benefits can be properly, and I mean properly, funded and sustained. No more smoke and mirrors. The thing to watch, even if the 66 billion figure is incorrect, as I think you are trying to intimate, it must be somewhere in the ballpark. The public pension system is screwed up. Maybe to what degree is debatable, but it is screwed up and cannot continue on this path. You seem to hate groups that bring that to light and want to fix it. To you they are right wing extemists. What is wrong with balance and accountability. The Buckeye Institute knows this present system is crazy and a path to total destruction fiscally for this state. Doesn't really even matter what other states contribute, we are talking Ohio, and Ohio's system seems to need fixing to a large degree, and fixed soon. Show me the fix, how we keep these current pensions and stay solvent, and I'll quit asking. Again, no smoke and mirrors allowed.
tos, 66 billion, or maybe 33 billion, or maybe 3 billion?? Probably doesn't matter. The question is why are city and county governments and school systems so deep in debt? You think something may be wrong? You think some are totally wrong for demanding and expecting fiscal accountability, for expecting pensions and entitlement programs to be funded properly? You seem to disagree with that concept? Just asking. You say it's being fixed. We will see. I love good benefits and good pensions as long as they can be sustained with proper funding. Not billions in the hole.
Ryan, Sammarone to formally open 82-unit YMHA apartments Tuesday
george is absolutely right. Take a look in a year. It'll look like a bomb hit it.
May 27, 2012 at 8:09 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Michelle Obama, daughters attend Beyonce concert
think, there's so much to bash Obama about you almost have to get on here every day just to get it all in. Happy Memorial Day to you, too.
May 27, 2012 at 7:03 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Michelle Obama, daughters attend Beyonce concert
They asked Michelle if she could be someone else, who? She said she wished she could be Beyonce. Once they asked President Obama who he'd like to be. He said he wished he could be a good president.
May 27, 2012 at 6:14 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Franchitti again wins Indy 500, this time in honor of D-dub
His third Indy 500 win and he's married to Ashley Judd! Obama wants everything fair. Well this doesn't seem fair to me.
May 27, 2012 at 6:06 p.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
fd, I understand your points and your fight. I will say we see things pretty differently as to the problem and the fix. I saw a state in debt when Kasich took office. Maybe he steamrolled, but he has, in my opinion improved the employment for this state. I see our country moving towards 20 trillion in debt and no answer from our president after almost four years. I am from the school of never biting the hand that feeds you. That hand goes away, then what. I am all for good strong business and jobs in this country. But there must be compromise. Right now this country is as divided as it possibly can be, and it will get worse this summer and fall. I believe by strengthening our corporations and businesses, we do in fact strengthen the middle class. But I love a good discussion, some arguments, and hopefully ultimately improvements for all of us. You want that too. People just see things differently and approach problems with different solutions. You think Kasich is awful. I thought Strickland was awful. But we both want a stronger state, a stronger country, a stronger middle class. The answer is probably compromise. Some of each side. Right now, neither side seems willing to bend. Our stifling debt is a killer. It must be dealt with. Jobs must get better. It's a matter of how that is done and by whom. It will be an interesting summer and fall. But I do enjoy the discussion and I respect your opinions.
May 27, 2012 at 10:38 a.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
Well, it will be interesting to see, as I said to fd, if this 66 billion debt figure is close to being correct, 'cause one side isn't even in the ballpark. But things seem screwed up at every level of government, and each side absolutely seem to hate each other. I've seen people totally lose their pensions in years past because of greed and stubborness, and there is a reason every publically funded thing in the country seems to be deep deep in debt, and a big part of that seems to be the pension programs. I admire your passion and your fight for your viewpoint. But something is wrong somewhere and the only real answer is probably some sort of compromise on both sides, if that is even possible now days. Even in Ohio, the hate is deep.
May 26, 2012 at 9:58 p.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
Well I'm confused. I've got one major group telling me not all is wrong, but that the state public pension system is 66 billion in debt and needs fixed, and I've got you telling me the system is just a little broken and hardly needs fixed at all. You say they produced no figures. I haven't seen their figures, but I hope to. I haven't seen your figures either, and I hope to see those as well. You say they hate unions and I have an idea you really like unions. I see some good in unions and I see some bad in unions. But one of you is bsing me pretty badly, and I am pretty sure I'll find out who sometime in the not too distant future. And when that comes out as to which one is bsing me, believe me, that one's credibility will be shot with me. Can you just answer me this now, before we find out the Buckeye figures and your figures. If all is so well, and public stuff is so well funded and solvent now, why am I asked to pass a levy for public stuff everytime I turn around? Why are so many public people being laid off? Is someone bsing on that too?
May 26, 2012 at 9:25 p.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
fd, so you're saying everything is fine and any talk of debt or underfunding is a sham. O.K. we'll see if you're correct. Now, it doesn't have to be 66 billion in debt to be depleted, right. Anything in the hole is depleted, isn't it? But you're saying don't worry all is well? Just want to make certain you're saying it's all a right wing scam right? And you say the majority in Columbus go first. I say evryone goes together if it includes everyone's pension fund. No one first. All at the same time. But you say all is well and not to worry about funding changes or things either being in debt now or going into debt. So you vote for no changes to the funding system. Hope you're right.
May 26, 2012 at 8:41 p.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
tos, sounds to me like your real beef is with The Buckeye Institute. You feel the 66 billion figure is either incorrect, or if indeed it is correct, it is just being used to inflame? The amount of underfunded pension liabilities does matter, at least to anyone with any fiscal responsibilities. I only stated earlier it didn't matter because so often, debt and underfunded liablities of any amount, large or small, doesn't seem to matter to a lot of politicians. I'll say it again, I'm all for good benefits and pensions for one and all, as long as those benefits can be properly, and I mean properly, funded and sustained. No more smoke and mirrors. The thing to watch, even if the 66 billion figure is incorrect, as I think you are trying to intimate, it must be somewhere in the ballpark. The public pension system is screwed up. Maybe to what degree is debatable, but it is screwed up and cannot continue on this path. You seem to hate groups that bring that to light and want to fix it. To you they are right wing extemists. What is wrong with balance and accountability. The Buckeye Institute knows this present system is crazy and a path to total destruction fiscally for this state. Doesn't really even matter what other states contribute, we are talking Ohio, and Ohio's system seems to need fixing to a large degree, and fixed soon. Show me the fix, how we keep these current pensions and stay solvent, and I'll quit asking. Again, no smoke and mirrors allowed.
May 26, 2012 at 7:21 p.m. permalink suggest removal
GOP afraid of public employees
tos, 66 billion, or maybe 33 billion, or maybe 3 billion?? Probably doesn't matter. The question is why are city and county governments and school systems so deep in debt? You think something may be wrong? You think some are totally wrong for demanding and expecting fiscal accountability, for expecting pensions and entitlement programs to be funded properly? You seem to disagree with that concept? Just asking. You say it's being fixed. We will see. I love good benefits and good pensions as long as they can be sustained with proper funding. Not billions in the hole.
May 26, 2012 at 3:04 p.m. permalink suggest removal