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So, You're Outraged About Cecil ?

See Gary Francione's site: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

Go Vegan. It's the only way, unless you're morally weak.

August 4, 2015 at 2:53 p.m. suggest removal

Dogs are not disposable-they are life long commitments

Yes, superb. It is my sentiment too that all animals deserve and must receive proper care throughout their entire lives. Tomorrow, I celebrate with my family a very special member of that family, our feline companion Moses, who will turn 17 years-old.

May 11, 2011 at 10:42 a.m. suggest removal

Animal Charity hires agent, restores services

Who gives authority to Animal Charity, permitting them to hire a humane agent and conduct those duties? It's time for the local County judges, the County prosecuting attorney, and everyone else involved at the Youngstown city-level to answer this question. If they cannot or won't, then it is time to file complaints with the authorities in Columbus: The Ohio Supreme Court ethics office and the Ohio Ethics Commission come to mind. And as for the veterinarians at Animal Charity, it is time to audit them as well. Complaints should be filed with the Ohio Veterinary Medical Board. This is all long overdue. The recent Cat Ladies fiasco will not be the last. Shame on all of us and our community.

January 15, 2011 at 3:11 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

I agree with 1970mach1. Let's get to the truth, and do so with recrimination. Because after all of the fingerpointing is finished, no doubt there will be plenty of blame to go around.

September 24, 2010 at 3:58 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

1970mach1, you seem to imply that I'm an unwavering ally of Cat Ladies Society (or an enemy of Animal Charity). Neither is the case. My only concern is how the animals are treated by humans, how they are treated by us. If a thorough, fair, and comprehensive investigation of every organization involved in this ordeal reveals problems with the Cat Ladies Society, then so be it. I'm on no one's side, except the animals primarily, and those people who are trying to help them.

September 24, 2010 at 3:50 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

Yes, it's all very interesting, blah, blah, blah. And it's all very sad.

September 24, 2010 at 3:03 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

1970mach1, you see, that's precisely the point. Kimm was not violating her code of ethics. Quite the contrary, she was upholding them. She was curing sick kittens and cats so that they may have a chance at a better life...to be adopted into a loving human home. Animal Charity, however, most likely killed many kittens and cats unnecessarily, in violation of their ethics. If Animal Charity didn't have the means to treat the animals, they should have enlisted the assistance of other agencies for aid. But, like so many places, even some local shelters, they just killed them. There are many shelters around the country that routinely kill even healthy animals because of a lack of available homes. This is true, but it doesn't make it the right thing to do. It's still wrong. That's why so many organizations are looking for ways to control the overpopulation problem through public education and intensive spay-neuter programs. What Animal Charity vets did was wrong because most of the cats and kittens deserved care, whether they were able to provide it or not. They made the wrong medical decisions, and I would be happy to see the details of those decisions and how they smell after being brought out into the light of day. And simply killing them because of a lack of facility is wrong too. That's what Kimm understood. That's what her shelter is all about. Save the ones you can, find homes for them, and work to improve public understanding. Yours included.

September 24, 2010 at 2:54 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

For those who wish to show their support and can attend, Cat Ladies Society will be at Petco in Boardman at 3pm. See the text of the article above that started this long string of pearls.

September 24, 2010 at 2:24 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

There are other contacts that may be useful. Within the Supreme Court of Ohio there is an office, the Office of Disciplinary Counsel, that to my reading conducts investigations regarding the ethical conduct and competence of lawyers and judges in the State of Ohio. Perhaps they need to hear about our apparent local problem with accountability. The contact informat is:

Office of Disciplinary Counsel
250 Civic Center Drive
Suite 325
Columbus, Ohio 43215-7411
toll free 1-800-589-5256

Another possibility is the Ohio Ethics Commission, which "promotes ethics in public service to strengthen the public's confidence that Government business is conducted with impartiality and integrity."

Ohio Ethics Commission
30 West Spring Street, L3
Columbus, Ohio 43215-2256

How sad it is that we need first to demand accountability from our local government officials by employing state-level authorities, just to initiate a process whereby we can hold Animal Charity accountable for their actions...it raises more questions that need to be answered.

September 24, 2010 at 2:19 p.m. suggest removal

Cat shelter reopening; charges still possible

1910mach1, even if the conditions in the shelter were sub-par, that doesn't justify killing them. Most had curable illnesses and should have been provided with care. Meanwhile, the shelter could have done what it needed to do, reopen, and then adopt out the cats. There is no justification for killing sick animals that can be healed, unless there isn't the will to do so, or the belief that these animals' lives aren't worth saving. And I think that is a crucial dividing line here. Animal Charity may not share the same values that other agencies share. Indeed, many readers of vindy.com, and perhaps even yourself, don't see the value of an individual life. I'm not saying you don't. I don't know you. But I've rescued many many animals over the years and have come to understand that there are few organizations that are truly dedicated to life. Cat Ladies Society is one of them. Animal Charity resembles a law enforcement agency. Actually, I believe they say as much on their website. And they act accordingly: often with disproportionate force, heavy-handed, and perhaps with a chip on their shoulders, just above those gunbelts. I suspect that Animal Charity feels weak, frustrated that they cannot do a better job to combat animal cruelty in our community (and who can blaim them, since they're underfunded and the cruelty problem isn't taken all that seriously by our local government). Accordingly, they overreact, responding inappropriately and, perhaps, motivated and cajoled by other interests in town. Oh yes, definitely yes, let the investigation begin. Let us know the truth.

September 24, 2010 at 12:10 p.m. suggest removal



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