Misterlee, I am not writing anything off. I am pointing this out -
A) The chief indicated that these deaths are a reminder that "there are people out there who do not want to go to jail." He was saying that people who do not want to go to jail are the source of the deaths.
B) However, the recent deaths are not primarily due to people who do not want to go to jail. They are primarily due to other sources of death.
This struck me as an odd contradiction.
All of death is worthy of remembrance and I applaud the memorial. I simply noted this strange mismatch.
YBR - I was only referring to the last 5 because the article listed the last 5 at the end. It is the article that highlighted those and I did not have a full list to be able to look up their names. Can you post the link to the full 12 so I can evaluate it myself or are you too busy calling me names because you cannot string together a logical argument?
If you calculated correctly, then 7 out of 12 is 58% of deaths due to violence but it is still striking that 42% of the deaths are NOT due to violent intent. So no, the chief's point about the deaths being from people who are not willing to go to jail is not "spot on" as you state. You might consider taking a statistics class.
It is strange that you are so defensive about a reasonable observation of fact. The numbers of each type of death speak for themselves and contradict the Chief's statement. And you might consider coming up with a better retort than the very lame "Loser, get a life," comment.
Of the five most recent, two were accidental deaths due to car accidents, one due to a drunk driving accident, and two due to shootings. It appears it is more likely to die from an accident than from a violent attack and yet the quote from Police Chief Foley is, “We wanted to make sure that these officers are not forgotten, and it serves as a reminder to be as safe as you can out there [on the streets] because there are people out there not willing to go to jail,” he said.
While he is correct that there are people who are not willing to go to jail and I have every respect for police officers who put their lives in danger, it is misleading to state in regard to the memorial that it is a reminder of people who are not willing to go to jail because the deaths are not primarily due to people who were not willing to go to jail. They were due to accidents (one of them a criminal accident and clearly wrong as a person should not drive drunk and take someone's life, but not of the same category as a violent act aimed at someone).
Liberty teacher's efforts lauded
It is nice to see a positive news story like this about a dedicated teacher.
October 3, 2012 at 8:54 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YPD unveils memorial wall
Misterlee, I am not writing anything off. I am pointing this out -
A) The chief indicated that these deaths are a reminder that "there are people out there who do not want to go to jail." He was saying that people who do not want to go to jail are the source of the deaths.
B) However, the recent deaths are not primarily due to people who do not want to go to jail. They are primarily due to other sources of death.
This struck me as an odd contradiction.
All of death is worthy of remembrance and I applaud the memorial. I simply noted this strange mismatch.
YBR - I was only referring to the last 5 because the article listed the last 5 at the end. It is the article that highlighted those and I did not have a full list to be able to look up their names. Can you post the link to the full 12 so I can evaluate it myself or are you too busy calling me names because you cannot string together a logical argument?
If you calculated correctly, then 7 out of 12 is 58% of deaths due to violence but it is still striking that 42% of the deaths are NOT due to violent intent. So no, the chief's point about the deaths being from people who are not willing to go to jail is not "spot on" as you state. You might consider taking a statistics class.
October 1, 2012 at 6:54 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YPD unveils memorial wall
It is strange that you are so defensive about a reasonable observation of fact. The numbers of each type of death speak for themselves and contradict the Chief's statement. And you might consider coming up with a better retort than the very lame "Loser, get a life," comment.
October 1, 2012 at 2:23 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer’s conduct deemed improper
Kelty has always been unethical but it has taken all this time for it to come to light.
October 1, 2012 at 2:14 a.m. permalink suggest removal
YPD unveils memorial wall
Of the five most recent, two were accidental deaths due to car accidents, one due to a drunk driving accident, and two due to shootings. It appears it is more likely to die from an accident than from a violent attack and yet the quote from Police Chief Foley is, “We wanted to make sure that these officers are not forgotten, and it serves as a reminder to be as safe as you can out there [on the streets] because there are people out there not willing to go to jail,” he said.
While he is correct that there are people who are not willing to go to jail and I have every respect for police officers who put their lives in danger, it is misleading to state in regard to the memorial that it is a reminder of people who are not willing to go to jail because the deaths are not primarily due to people who were not willing to go to jail. They were due to accidents (one of them a criminal accident and clearly wrong as a person should not drive drunk and take someone's life, but not of the same category as a violent act aimed at someone).
October 1, 2012 at 12:04 a.m. permalink suggest removal