Amazing how when Krinos tried to tell council including the "mayor" who was council president @ the time that Miles was incapable of performing his duties , he was crucified and the "powers that be" wasted more money on lawsuits to prevent Miles from being removed and fought every motion in council meetings till it was a 3 ring circus... Now that Miles wont play nice with Bill & his protector is gone, NOW he is not worthy of a position, City admin again is nothing but a joke, now lets just see if they AGAIN put someone in a position they don't deserve as a thanks for the political help they received in November. You posted the resumes in the article I can see one person that truly has no reason being interviewed for this position, his history has NOTHING to do with finances and out of that stack sitting at your desk that is who you chose?? LOL keep making this town a joke! We will NEVER get out of fiscal emergency with you two in that chair! Man up for once and hopefully you will do what's right for this city.
Amazing that he gets fired when he has done his job for 30 days shy of a year with praises from his boss and fellow employees , Never missed a day of work in nearly a year, and came in to help out whenever necessary. Great job Bill fire the employee who comes in and does what is needed above and beyond but keep an employee who openly runs to the media bragging about how he pays someone 40.00 an hour out of his own pocket because he does not know how to perform a duty that is necessary in his position... WHO HIRES A FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO RECONCILE BOOKS??? oh yea your boy Jack Dill!!! reall good... I guess when you were on council you should have let Krinos terminate him like he said , the man has no clue how to run that position... and you wonder why we can't get out of fiscal emergency... If I brought someone to my job and paid him to do my work out of pocket I would be out on my ear! But wait he doesnt need to take a civil service exam so you have no real way to get rid of him...your a joke! Give the citizens somemore of your great car salesman bull about how much you care about this town...step down if you give a crap about this city, you are truly a hypocrite and stand for nothing more than being a playground bully... How u sleep at night is beyond me!
what no more comment Vinny... Did I stump you with that last one? I guess so... The problem with this city IS the people like you that want to run for the hills when the going gets tough, we are here for the long haul good or bad THIS IS OUR HOME,Our families are here and however bleak this citys future looks we are determined not to let it go without trying to fix it first! Have fun selling your house maybe Dill will get you a great deal with his son and they can section 8 it out so we can lose more on our property value. I am no fan of Krinos but he tried, he is far from perfect and frankly I cant stand the man on a personal level, but I attended the meetings and I watched council (all of them) turn down everything he tried to do, My feeling was let him try and if he failed then shame on us for voting him in office, hell it couldnt have gotten any worse then where we were... Billy has done nothing for the past 8 months... nothing, but go for blood on the people who have "betrayed" him in his eyes... half the time you talk to him he has no clue what is going on he has to pass the buck to Dill ... and that is just like talking to a wall. They just dont care about anyone but themselves! Happy trails!
Just for the record vinny.. I AM NOT RUNNING for office if that will help you and the idiot crew to narrow down who I am... but reread what I wrote... BOTH LETTERS SAID THE SAME THING... minus the administrative names, I have the letters... I don't need to ask for them! I am sure they would come up missng anyway! The point I was trying to make was that it was good enough to hold Mr. Jackson to it but it wasn't good enough to hold the lawdirectors step son to it! An exam was requested for him when he was working and they said that he did not have to take it... Same time worked that D Jackson had... The court took the stand they did because a provisional employee is at the adminstrations will... they can do as they please unfortunatley... they really don't need an excuse other than they dont like you! Just like he is doing, all he has because the kids record is perfect... he has nothing to go on, if it was anything else he could never get rid of him and he knows it... HIS OWN WORDS WERE THAT HE HAS TO GET HIM OUT BY OCTOBER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARDER TO GET RID OF HIM AFTER THAT!!! ... As far as the letter from civil service commission trust me I can right a letter dated prior to todays date and say I wrote it three months ago as well... Billy is full of it... He knows it and I am sure you know it... seeing that it is so many of his words that have been coming out of your mouth! Bottom line, civil service commission who lied and our so called powers that be should be ashamed of themselves... hopefully this will all come back 10fold on them and they will reap what they sow! So get another earful from Bill and see if he can actually RECALL what he has said... its amazing how different the two things are! another thing Vinny... why no comment on the meter reader with the same failing grade? huh... hurry run and see what he has to say on that one... would love to hear your opinion on that!
Well said 5th ward... Also Matash( I believe it was him) admitted in court that the exam was done incorrectly, that NOONE on the civil service commision is certified! It was done that way to save money! I'm assuming that Grocutt may not be certified either considering he retired years ago!
vinny... get your facts straight!!! First off Vansuch talked quite openly since the meeting he was sworn in that D. Jackson would be gone, mainly because he didnt shake his hand and congratulate him at the council meeting where he was sworn in, 2nd that letter was never issued till Vansuch needed it to cover his butt in court, trust me there were many employees that have failed that test in the past that have never got a recomendation for termination, amazing how this one did! 2nd... Ask him why he wants to hire a meter reader with the SAME FAILING GRADE as Mr. Jackson on that exam!!! Maybe because he figures he can at least get the support from that kids family in the election! Dill more qualified ... get a clue, the city bottomed out while he was here, Jackson has contributed more to this city in his time as administrator for DILL and KRINOS and VANSUCH! Companies have refused to deal with Dill and have said that to Vansuch... he still allowed them to leave rather than not bring back his buddy... THE CITY DOESNT WANT HIM! they voted him out... at least give the citizens of this town that much respect... The man doesnt care period, just a way to get benefits is all it is for him! If he "CARED" so much why didnt he even show his face at a meeting the citizens held a few weeks ago to help the city?? Jackson and Opencar were there...
Again the civil service test questions have nothing to do with this job the questions asked on those tests do not pertain to these jobs some questions do but very few, they seriously ask the most off the wall questions very few answers relate to the position it tests for, HE IS OEPA CERTIFIED, his training and certifications are 100% complete... Trust me if Vansuch had guts, he would fess up to his lies rather than state the good ole answer of I DON'T RECALL when questioned on his actions! Bill even stated on court record that HE NEVER SAID HE WAS GOING TO FIRE DONALD JACKSON, that he had to talk to the administrator and to the superintendant ..Jackson was Dills administrator... he is not a crook he has tried to do right by this town, ask the people of this town who they go to when they need something done... sure isnt Dill and it sure isnt Billy... Nepotism... look at EVERY employee in this town here because they were friends or family of Dill growing up with his kids get over it ... it is what it is everyone knows that, I dont care how they got there jobs... its if you can keep them!!! And the people that they keep wanting to go after live in this city and replaced with people that live outside of Campbell...City is Losing more money... Wake up and look !!! Guts Thats funny!!!
Labor law, another employee that was hired under Dill, a stepson of a fellow co-worker in administration was hired under the same stipulation of passing a civil service exam,Exact same appointment letter, minus administration names (Even though there was an eligibility list in place and he wasnt on it!) when an exam was requested by the superintendent the city said he didnt require it and it was never brought up again...Again BECAUSE OF WHO HIS STEP DAD WAS!!! That employee had a terrible work record, attendance wise and work wise and caused the city a considerable amount in a lawsuit that was caused by his lack of attention while driving a city vehicle and caused a collision with a citizen of Campbell, he was written up and disciplined numerous times and disrupted the whole work schedule due to his knowledge that nothing will happen to him... ADMINISTRATION NEVER wanted to discipline him, 90% of his discrepencies happened while he was on probation! NOTHING WAS DONE!!! he was never forced to take a civil service exam nor held accountable for his attendance or lack there of, nor the work ino that he readily falsified... maybe if his name was Jackson then he would have been handled accordingly... trust me there is more than 3 sides to this story ... easy to see what they want you to see when that is all you are given... Jackson was set up to fail period! Everyone should have a fair crack at the exam... However @ least 75% if not more have been eliminated due to their criminal history... think about it, a test obviously does not show true clarity into an individual, These people go into our parents and grandparents homes, deal with our families on a daily basis in some shape or form, is that someone that you want to come into contact with the people that you care about? This kid is trusted, certified and responsible... maybe if he would have shook Vansuch's hand at the council meeting the night he was swore in he wouldnt have these problems... right Bill???
first of all anyone who ever took a civil service test can tell u they have ZERO to do with the actual job you are in, they are very diverse and sometimes idiotic they are not a very good example of the work that you do. 2nd the employee that was hired off the exams scored very high close to 100 and what do u know 2 months into the job missed work and oh wait arrested for felony cocaine possesion.,, so dont tell me that this test that he failed by 1 point is an example of who is qualified to do this job his hard work ethic and dedication even through all the bs that they put him through should have been proof enough. Politics is politics specially in Campbell
Campbell mayor to interview 4 for finance director
Amazing how when Krinos tried to tell council including the "mayor" who was council president @ the time that Miles was incapable of performing his duties , he was crucified and the "powers that be" wasted more money on lawsuits to prevent Miles from being removed and fought every motion in council meetings till it was a 3 ring circus... Now that Miles wont play nice with Bill & his protector is gone, NOW he is not worthy of a position, City admin again is nothing but a joke, now lets just see if they AGAIN put someone in a position they don't deserve as a thanks for the political help they received in November. You posted the resumes in the article I can see one person that truly has no reason being interviewed for this position, his history has NOTHING to do with finances and out of that stack sitting at your desk that is who you chose?? LOL keep making this town a joke! We will NEVER get out of fiscal emergency with you two in that chair! Man up for once and hopefully you will do what's right for this city.
January 17, 2012 at 6:10 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Campbell council wary of fracking-waste disposal well
FYI...Campbell gets its water source from Hamilton Lake in Struthers, Not the others
October 21, 2011 at 11:49 a.m. permalink suggest removal
No appeal in case of fired worker
Amazing that he gets fired when he has done his job for 30 days shy of a year with praises from his boss and fellow employees , Never missed a day of work in nearly a year, and came in to help out whenever necessary. Great job Bill fire the employee who comes in and does what is needed above and beyond but keep an employee who openly runs to the media bragging about how he pays someone 40.00 an hour out of his own pocket because he does not know how to perform a duty that is necessary in his position... WHO HIRES A FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO RECONCILE BOOKS??? oh yea your boy Jack Dill!!! reall good... I guess when you were on council you should have let Krinos terminate him like he said , the man has no clue how to run that position... and you wonder why we can't get out of fiscal emergency... If I brought someone to my job and paid him to do my work out of pocket I would be out on my ear! But wait he doesnt need to take a civil service exam so you have no real way to get rid of him...your a joke! Give the citizens somemore of your great car salesman bull about how much you care about this town...step down if you give a crap about this city, you are truly a hypocrite and stand for nothing more than being a playground bully... How u sleep at night is beyond me!
September 21, 2011 at 8:37 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
what no more comment Vinny... Did I stump you with that last one? I guess so... The problem with this city IS the people like you that want to run for the hills when the going gets tough, we are here for the long haul good or bad THIS IS OUR HOME,Our families are here and however bleak this citys future looks we are determined not to let it go without trying to fix it first! Have fun selling your house maybe Dill will get you a great deal with his son and they can section 8 it out so we can lose more on our property value. I am no fan of Krinos but he tried, he is far from perfect and frankly I cant stand the man on a personal level, but I attended the meetings and I watched council (all of them) turn down everything he tried to do, My feeling was let him try and if he failed then shame on us for voting him in office, hell it couldnt have gotten any worse then where we were... Billy has done nothing for the past 8 months... nothing, but go for blood on the people who have "betrayed" him in his eyes... half the time you talk to him he has no clue what is going on he has to pass the buck to Dill ... and that is just like talking to a wall. They just dont care about anyone but themselves! Happy trails!
September 1, 2011 at 7:52 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
Just for the record vinny.. I AM NOT RUNNING for office if that will help you and the idiot crew to narrow down who I am... but reread what I wrote... BOTH LETTERS SAID THE SAME THING... minus the administrative names, I have the letters... I don't need to ask for them! I am sure they would come up missng anyway! The point I was trying to make was that it was good enough to hold Mr. Jackson to it but it wasn't good enough to hold the lawdirectors step son to it! An exam was requested for him when he was working and they said that he did not have to take it... Same time worked that D Jackson had... The court took the stand they did because a provisional employee is at the adminstrations will... they can do as they please unfortunatley... they really don't need an excuse other than they dont like you! Just like he is doing, all he has because the kids record is perfect... he has nothing to go on, if it was anything else he could never get rid of him and he knows it... HIS OWN WORDS WERE THAT HE HAS TO GET HIM OUT BY OCTOBER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARDER TO GET RID OF HIM AFTER THAT!!! ... As far as the letter from civil service commission trust me I can right a letter dated prior to todays date and say I wrote it three months ago as well... Billy is full of it... He knows it and I am sure you know it... seeing that it is so many of his words that have been coming out of your mouth! Bottom line, civil service commission who lied and our so called powers that be should be ashamed of themselves... hopefully this will all come back 10fold on them and they will reap what they sow! So get another earful from Bill and see if he can actually RECALL what he has said... its amazing how different the two things are! another thing Vinny... why no comment on the meter reader with the same failing grade? huh... hurry run and see what he has to say on that one... would love to hear your opinion on that!
September 1, 2011 at 4:03 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
Well said 5th ward... Also Matash( I believe it was him) admitted in court that the exam was done incorrectly, that NOONE on the civil service commision is certified! It was done that way to save money! I'm
assuming that Grocutt may not be certified either considering he retired years ago!
August 31, 2011 at 11:28 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
vinny... get your facts straight!!! First off Vansuch talked quite openly since the meeting he was sworn in that D. Jackson would be gone, mainly because he didnt shake his hand and congratulate him at the council meeting where he was sworn in, 2nd that letter was never issued till Vansuch needed it to cover his butt in court, trust me there were many employees that have failed that test in the past that have never got a recomendation for termination, amazing how this one did! 2nd... Ask him why he wants to hire a meter reader with the SAME FAILING GRADE as Mr. Jackson on that exam!!! Maybe because he figures he can at least get the support from that kids family in the election!
Dill more qualified ... get a clue, the city bottomed out while he was here, Jackson has contributed more to this city in his time as administrator for DILL and KRINOS and VANSUCH! Companies have refused to deal with Dill and have said that to Vansuch... he still allowed them to leave rather than not bring back his buddy... THE CITY DOESNT WANT HIM! they voted him out... at least give the citizens of this town that much respect... The man doesnt care period, just a way to get benefits is all it is for him! If he "CARED" so much why didnt he even show his face at a meeting the citizens held a few weeks ago to help the city?? Jackson and Opencar were there...
August 31, 2011 at 7:08 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
Again the civil service test questions have nothing to do with this job the questions asked on those tests do not pertain to these jobs some questions do but very few, they seriously ask the most off the wall questions very few answers relate to the position it tests for, HE IS OEPA CERTIFIED, his training and certifications are 100% complete...
Trust me if Vansuch had guts, he would fess up to his lies rather than state the good ole answer of I DON'T RECALL when questioned on his actions! Bill even stated on court record that HE NEVER SAID HE WAS GOING TO FIRE DONALD JACKSON, that he had to talk to the administrator and to the superintendant
..Jackson was Dills administrator... he is not a crook he has tried to do right by this town, ask the people of this town who they go to when they need something done... sure isnt Dill and it sure isnt Billy... Nepotism... look at EVERY employee in this town here because they were friends or family of Dill growing up with his kids get over it ... it is what it is everyone knows that, I dont care how they got there jobs... its if you can keep them!!! And the people that they keep wanting to go after live in this city and replaced with people that live outside of Campbell...City is Losing more money... Wake up and look !!! Guts Thats funny!!!
August 29, 2011 at 8:51 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing a Campbell water worker wasn’t in city’s best interest
Labor law, another employee that was hired under Dill, a stepson of a fellow co-worker in administration was hired under the same stipulation of passing a civil service exam,Exact same appointment letter, minus administration names (Even though there was an eligibility list in place and he wasnt on it!) when an exam was requested by the superintendent the city said he didnt require it and it was never brought up again...Again BECAUSE OF WHO HIS STEP DAD WAS!!! That employee had a terrible work record, attendance wise and work wise and caused the city a considerable amount in a lawsuit that was caused by his lack of attention while driving a city vehicle and caused a collision with a citizen of Campbell, he was written up and disciplined numerous times and disrupted the whole work schedule due to his knowledge that nothing will happen to him... ADMINISTRATION NEVER wanted to discipline him, 90% of his discrepencies happened while he was on probation! NOTHING WAS DONE!!! he was never forced to take a civil service exam nor held accountable for his attendance or lack there of, nor the work ino that he readily falsified... maybe if his name was Jackson then he would have been handled accordingly... trust me there is more than 3 sides to this story ... easy to see what they want you to see when that is all you are given... Jackson was set up to fail period! Everyone should have a fair crack at the exam... However @ least 75% if not more have been eliminated due to their criminal history... think about it, a test obviously does not show true clarity into an individual, These people go into our parents and grandparents homes, deal with our families on a daily basis in some shape or form, is that someone that you want to come into contact with the people that you care about? This kid is trusted, certified and responsible... maybe if he would have shook Vansuch's hand at the council meeting the night he was swore in he wouldnt have these problems... right Bill???
August 29, 2011 at 6:01 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Ruling supports Campbell in its firing of worker
first of all anyone who ever took a civil service test can tell u they have ZERO to do with the actual job you are in, they are very diverse and sometimes idiotic they are not a very good example of the work that you do. 2nd the employee that was hired off the exams scored very high close to 100 and what do u know 2 months into the job missed work and oh wait arrested for felony cocaine possesion.,, so dont tell me that this test that he failed by 1 point is an example of who is qualified to do this job his hard work ethic and dedication even through all the bs that they put him through should have been proof enough. Politics is politics specially in Campbell
August 27, 2011 at 1:04 p.m. permalink suggest removal