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Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

I'm tired of people linking him to this, he is a great pastor, who no longer is with Zion. Why does it matter?! He has been gone for 2 years. Call him up and ask.

February 22, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

ok so then, according to you, you must have been defending Pastor Dale. And I guess you should have known that the Bishop asked for his resignation. So, why again did you ask why he resigned?

February 22, 2009 at 9:43 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

WOW.....seriously?!?! Did i ever criticize the victims in this case?? DO NOT put words into my mouth. I feel deeply for anyone who has something wrong done to them, but i also feel like he should have the right to go through a trial before stamped as a rapist. Have these charges been proven? Did i miss something?? Also, the Bishop asked for his resignation. Were you aware of that? You really should not generalize the members at the meeting like that. Those who cared enough to KNOW what was going on attended, not just those who were concerned in defending him. Were YOU there? By the way my last comment was not directed at you, it was to anyone bad-mouthing the council. THIS ONE is directed at you Valerie, and yes your last comment made me sick.

February 22, 2009 at 9:28 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

To any of you who think that the church council had some sort of agenda other than serving the church with selfless, good hearts....YOU MAKE ME SICK!!! These people put in hours of volunteer work to make the church run smoothly. They DO NOT make every decision for the church and they ablsolutely do not mindlessly follow the lead of one man...no matter what his actions are. It is one thing to attack Pastor Dale for what may or may not have happened, but these people would never "hush" a possible victim, or turn their heads if they thought something was going on. The people that are part of this council are hard-working members of the community who have FAMILIES. They have daughters, sisters, wives, mothers. It disgusts me to think that any person who is/was a member of Zion could possibly think that they would let something of this magnitude go on to their knowledge. THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE!
You should absolutely be ashamed of yourselfs for trying to soil their names. Do you think that your father, uncle, grandfather, MOTHER wouldn't do a little bit of research if approached by a victim of sexual abuse. I know mine would. So vent and say what you feel you need to say about Pastor Dale, but leave them be. SHAME ON YOU.

AND NO, FOR THOSE OF YOU I KNOW WILL ASK, BECACUSE YOU CANNOT LET ANYTHING BE, I AM NOT ON CHURCH COUNCIL.

February 22, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

guess someone is in Chucks back pocket....I'm sure we aren't partial to this at all??

February 20, 2009 at 9:15 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

Jeff: you have not been respectful, for the record, but I personally am finished with you.

Crazy: Retreats may not be mentioned. Maybe it was somewhere else, but how much time did you spend alone in the church with Pastor Dale? or at his home or in his car? I don't care to share anymore information that we received in the meeting with the Bishop. Members that cared to know, do, and apparently the public will know soon enough if that is meant to be. Just know that the more "inside" information that goes further than this article makes a big difference whether it seemes fair to consider him innocent unless proven otherwise.

Another side note, Novak (man commenting in the actual article) was NOT an offical member of the church.

J????: At no time that I was alone with Pastor Dale did I feel uncomfortable and I also am still very close with the people that I grew up with in that church. Also, I never recall a time that we "went behind closed doors" with P.D. for confirmation. And as for Pastor Mark, I absolutely know that we (members) received a letter after he left. It was from Pastor Dale adressing the church.

February 20, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

Excuse my typo.....to those who are checking.

February 20, 2009 at 7:45 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

As a matter of fact, this women appraoched the Bishop first. Even before the police. I heard that personally straight from the Bishop's mouth.

Strange isn't it?

February 20, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

Also, I cannot see how I am so quick to judge. I am asking why people who say they are members of this church, why if they were so unhappy, they wouldn't leave. I am a current member of Zion. Just to make that clear.

I am not asking why "scared children" were not "telling" I am asking why the parents with "bad feelings" didn't say something. I was on these trips too!! As were MANY of my family members and friends. There was NEVER a time when Pastor Dale was the only person supervising, there were parents or other pastors. ALWAYS at least one other adult, one of which was a FEMALE!

February 20, 2009 at 7:24 p.m. suggest removal

Former pastor Giffin faces 6 rape charges

Why on Earth would you drag Pastor Mark's name into this?!?!

February 20, 2009 at 7:12 p.m. suggest removal

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