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Chamber loses more members over Senate bill

For anyone interested, the Chamber's membership list has been posted on the Mahoning County Democratic Party Website...www.mahoningcountydems.org

April 6, 2011 at 2:23 p.m. suggest removal

Will Penn Gaming be stopped?

Simple answer to the question posed in the headline: No. Allowing Penn National to move one of its tracks to the Valley makes perfect sense given the condition of the racing industry in Ohio and the proximity of the company's tracks to the sites of the new casinos. Issuing a permit for an eighth track does not.

February 6, 2011 at 7:52 a.m. suggest removal

Toledo track owner eyes move to Valley

Look, this is pretty simple and not at all nefarious. First, Penn National wants to move the track from Toledo because they do not want to compete with themselves--they hold the Toledo casino license. It makes perfect sense for them to move the track to a location where they will attract additional dollars rather than splitting the same pot of money.

Second, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THE TRACK OR INVEST 30 CENTS UNLESS AND UNTIL THE SLOTS PROPOSAL IS APPROVED. Even if the Racing Commission approves their request to move, they won't do it--and they won't have to--if they are not permitted to install slots.

That's all there is to it and it really is fairly straightforward.

February 3, 2011 at 2 p.m. suggest removal

Toledo track owner eyes move to Valley

For those who think something is fishy, just remember this: the track won't move unless and until the slots proposal is approved. No slots, no track. It's as simple as that.

February 3, 2011 at 10:18 a.m. suggest removal

Taking a gamble on the Valley?

For the sake of accuracy, please note the following: Issue 3 permits the operation of four, not five casinos, as the Vindicator has reported on a couple of occasions since the Lertman/Pressman news conference. Here is the issue language as summarized by the Ohio Ballot Board:
"Authorize only one casino facility at a specifically designated location within each of the cities of Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, and Toledo."
That means there will be one, not two, casinos in Cleveland.
Second, and it was an acknowledged flaw in Issue 3, the Cleveland operators are not counting on substantial revenue from Valley gamblers. They recognize that it takes 45 minutes to reach Mountaineer and only one hour to reach Rivers from Mahoning County while the drive into downtown Cleveland is well over an hour. Cleveland will not be the desitination of choice for potential patrons who live south of Trumbull County.
Third, both Reps. Hagan and Gerberry stated they DID NOT meet with Lertzman/Pressman. In any case, the Ohio Racing Commission sent clear signals this week that there is little if any support for issuing an eighth license.
There may, however, be support for moving one of the two tracks controlled by Penn National to the Valley and such a move is both more likely and more sensible than the scenario painted by Bertram. Penn National holds the casino licenses in Columbus and Toledo. They also own tracks in both areas. They do not want to compete with themselves in those markets. In addition, the understand that Valley gamblers will continue to leave the state because the Cleveland facility is too far away. They want to tap this market and moving one of their tracks here is the easiest and most effective way to do so.

January 23, 2011 at 9:05 a.m. suggest removal

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