"and people wonder about their ability to push chicken fingers, nachos and beer?"
Hell...How hard can that be? Anybody could do that? Just ask any of the food industry experts if they think the "dream team" can pull it off... Here's a for instance; any knucklehead knows if you're halfway successful say, selling cars, you'd be be a perfect fit in the restaurant business...not necessarily true. No, Mr. Franko, we can't and shouldn't, put all our eggs in one basket, based on that logic. Let JAC/SMG grow by doing what they do best..bringing in the talent and the big bucks. It seems to me, messing around with hot dogs, nachos, and beer, would be a distraction and take away energy needed to up the Center's revenue through good bookings.
You'd make a pretty good PR rep for the establishments you've written in your post. Vindy should print your above comment in the main body of the newspaper. I'm not being sarcastic, your testimonial could draw a good mix of people to the businesses you've mentioned. That being said,the issue I have, remains the same.Restaurants/clubs/bars/cafes, cannot support or compliment each other because, they must compete for the same customer demographic. Throw another eatery in the mix and there's going to be a collapse. The area simply cannot support this "revolving door" logic. My research, from reading your posts, confirms that. As far as Butler Art goes, we're talking Downtown...Federal St. and the downtown area, nothing over any of the bridges, is truly "Downtown." .
You're right..I do not go downtown...there's nothing to draw me there...that's the whole point. Lemon Grove is doing a good job, but, look at the track record for the food and beverage businesses, the Lemon Groves', if you will, that have been there and done that. Apparently, 14,000 YSU students weren't enough to keep the past establishments in business. I'd like to see Downtown thrive, and it's not just Youngstown, that has this "dilemma"..it's happened to most cities. Turn Downtown into antique stores, artist galleries..I don't know, but there's a couple ideas. That would draw me and others like me..good citizens,families, people with a little money to buy something they'll value and come back for more. I'm just saying..
“I don’t know why they didn’t bring it up till” Monday, said Councilman DeMaine Kitchen. Give me a break! Councilman Kitchen, would it have made any difference, even during budget talks, that the city knew this payment was coming due? What...if you knew this payment was upcoming you could've secured $300,000 from the "money train" when it stopped here? It's a good thing Covelli Centre is turning a nice profit this year...it'll come in handy.
Why is business picking up downtown? Seriously, is mayor J chartering buses full of people from Pittsburgh, with promises of great things downtown? No offense, Lemon Grove, but, what's keeping you afloat? It can't be because you're the "surviving" business, or is it? Hopefully, it's because you're doing something different and better than you're predecessors. Now that's what downtown needs, niche businesses that appeal to us(the consumer), what a concept! Why go downtown to eat or drink...unless there's another reason for going there in the first place? Building owners would lease to prostitutes if they could, just to fill the space and get the cash flowing in. Get off your butts and do some research. Find those businesses I NEED, and WANT, to drive downtown to make my purchases, and "make them a deal..they can't refuse."
Just because you say it's your company upfront, doesn't change the definition of "conflict of interest!" Or, do you have to "get caught" doing something like this, for it to be considered, "conflict of interest?" Of course, stranger things have happened..What was the final outcome regarding the Youngstown airport lease deal..by an airport official and his company? Same kind of "situation," wasn't it? I'm just sayin.
Looks hopeless. The least authorities could do is throw down a life-jacket or floaties,then, fill the shaft with water and see what happens! I know...that's bad..or is it?
Let's see..a robbery and beating, 6 males against 1 (14 yr old male). Man, there must've been a cop there doing his/her job. How on earth is the 14 yr old victim still walking around, let alone not dead, with odds like that? Maybe, this might be a stretch, but maybe..it took 6 suspects to get the "chain" from the kid! Maybe, these guys are a bunch of "girlie hoods"! Ha!Ha! the kid held his own, taking on 6 at a time! No, I think my first guess was more real..a cop took on 6 males and saved this boy from a real beating! Could this robbery be payback from a 2002 incident? Does the chain really belong to someone else, and it was just "repossessed"? Ms. Reeders filed a complaint, that's a start, get a papertrail going! She needs an attorney.There's $$ to sue for,against the city and Covelli Center, for not protecting her son! Heck..I can see it now in bright lights.. "Reeders Center"!
Why mess with Covelli success?
"and people wonder about their ability to push chicken fingers, nachos and beer?"
Hell...How hard can that be? Anybody could do that? Just ask any of the food industry experts if they think the "dream team" can pull it off... Here's a for instance; any knucklehead knows if you're halfway successful say, selling cars, you'd be be a perfect fit in the restaurant business...not necessarily true.
No, Mr. Franko, we can't and shouldn't, put all our eggs in one basket, based on that logic.
Let JAC/SMG grow by doing what they do best..bringing in the talent and the big bucks.
It seems to me, messing around with hot dogs, nachos, and beer, would be a distraction and take away energy needed to up the Center's revenue through good bookings.
June 5, 2011 at 4:49 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Area ranked next to worst
Will the last person leaving the Youngstown-Warren area...
Please, turn off the lights!!
May 10, 2011 at 1:33 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown’s rebound, 2.0
One_Who_Stayed
You'd make a pretty good PR rep for the establishments you've written in your post. Vindy should print your above comment in the main body of the newspaper. I'm not being sarcastic, your testimonial could draw a good mix of people to the businesses you've mentioned.
That being said,the issue I have, remains the same.Restaurants/clubs/bars/cafes, cannot support or compliment each other because, they must compete for the same customer demographic. Throw another eatery in the mix and there's going to be a collapse. The area simply cannot support this "revolving door" logic. My research, from reading your posts, confirms that.
As far as Butler Art goes, we're talking Downtown...Federal St. and the downtown area, nothing over any of the bridges, is truly "Downtown."
.
April 27, 2011 at 2:37 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown’s rebound, 2.0
One_Who_Stayed(
You're right..I do not go downtown...there's nothing to draw me there...that's the whole point. Lemon Grove is doing a good job, but, look at the track record for the food and beverage businesses, the Lemon Groves', if you will, that have been there and done that. Apparently, 14,000 YSU students weren't enough to keep the past establishments in business.
I'd like to see Downtown thrive, and it's not just Youngstown, that has this "dilemma"..it's happened to most cities.
Turn Downtown into antique stores, artist galleries..I don't know, but there's a couple ideas.
That would draw me and others like me..good citizens,families, people with a little money to buy something they'll value and come back for more. I'm just saying..
April 26, 2011 at 3:03 a.m. permalink suggest removal
$300K due on Covelli loan by Sept. 2
“I don’t know why they didn’t bring it up till” Monday, said Councilman DeMaine Kitchen.
Give me a break! Councilman Kitchen, would it have made any difference, even during budget talks, that the city knew this payment was coming due? What...if you knew this payment was upcoming you could've secured $300,000 from the "money train" when it stopped here?
It's a good thing Covelli Centre is turning a nice profit this year...it'll come in handy.
April 26, 2011 at 2:25 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown’s rebound, 2.0
Why is business picking up downtown? Seriously, is mayor J chartering buses full of people from Pittsburgh, with promises of great things downtown?
No offense, Lemon Grove, but, what's keeping you afloat? It can't be because you're the "surviving" business, or is it?
Hopefully, it's because you're doing something different and better than you're predecessors.
Now that's what downtown needs, niche businesses that appeal to us(the consumer), what a concept!
Why go downtown to eat or drink...unless there's another reason for going there in the first place?
Building owners would lease to prostitutes if they could, just to fill the space and get the cash flowing in. Get off your butts and do some research. Find those businesses I NEED, and WANT, to drive downtown to make my purchases, and "make them a deal..they can't refuse."
April 25, 2011 at 12:08 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Council needs more info on Covelli vendor switch
Askmeificare
Here's the link.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/oct/20...
April 8, 2011 at 3:05 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Council needs more info on Covelli vendor switch
Just because you say it's your company upfront, doesn't change the definition of "conflict of interest!" Or, do you have to "get caught" doing something like this, for it to be considered, "conflict of interest?"
Of course, stranger things have happened..What was the final outcome regarding the Youngstown airport lease deal..by an airport official and his company? Same kind of "situation," wasn't it?
I'm just sayin.
April 7, 2011 at 2:18 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Rescue ends for man seen alive in abandoned mine
Looks hopeless.
The least authorities could do is throw down a life-jacket or floaties,then, fill the shaft with water and see what happens!
I know...that's bad..or is it?
March 5, 2011 at 2:43 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Mom alleges inaction by police officer during robbery of son, files complaint
Let's see..a robbery and beating, 6 males against 1 (14 yr old male). Man, there must've been a cop there doing his/her job. How on earth is the 14 yr old victim still walking around, let alone not dead, with odds like that? Maybe, this might be a stretch, but maybe..it took 6 suspects to get the "chain" from the kid! Maybe, these guys are a bunch of "girlie hoods"! Ha!Ha! the kid held his own, taking on 6 at a time!
No, I think my first guess was more real..a cop took on 6 males and saved this boy from a real beating!
Could this robbery be payback from a 2002 incident? Does the chain really belong to someone else, and it was just "repossessed"?
Ms. Reeders filed a complaint, that's a start, get a papertrail going! She needs an attorney.There's $$ to sue for,against the city and Covelli Center, for not protecting her son! Heck..I can see it now in bright lights.. "Reeders Center"!
December 24, 2010 at 1:05 a.m. permalink suggest removal