Are you telling me Gatta would somehow not be moving forward with plans for that building without an abatement? And seriously.. 12 YEARS? 2 years might even be a stretch.. was 2 not an option? How about 3? Maybe 4? 5? 6? 7? 8..9..10..11?
The district is in fiscal emergency. This is ridiculous and makes no sense. Between handouts, no interest loans and tax abatements, Dom Gatta is making off like a bandit.
author50 - cedars has not purchased the coconut grove.
cedars is the longest running establishment downtown.. funny how it survives the complete collapse of the city's economy and downtown life without a cent of government money.. yet doesn't survive the government funded revitalization.. and is run out by a developer that is chummy with the city's developer of downtown events (i can't even imagine a more bogus position).
this isn't whining.. this is stating my disapproval of what is being done in downtown youngstown on the backs of taxpayers. what's being done is not part of some sort of pure capitalistic system.. it's a coordinated effort by the city to essentially hand out money to "redevelop" (yes, select tax abatements to some and not others are just that - hand outs).. and it sucks.
this is someone who has supported and been a part of the art and music scene in downtown youngstown over the years expressing that i do not approve of the direction downtown is moving.
this is someone who pays taxes in the city of youngstown expressing that i do not approve of the results of massive tax abatements and grant funding that results in a downtown full of fist pumping meatheads and mediocre restaurants. (several of which, i might add, received large amounts of money, operated for a few years, closed their doors, and never returned a cent to the city)
this is someone who has been a supporter of small businesses in youngstown who does not approve of the city's deference to large developers (frangos, cafaro, dsv/gatta) rather than to the unique spirit of the city that long-time, established treasures like cedars bring.
no one lives downtown, and millions of residents' tax dollars are being spent where they don't live and have little interest of going. we need to spend our money to bring in actual businesses.. not overpriced apartments, second-rate restaurants, and third-rate entertainment at the money pit that is the covelli centre (elton john aside there's been nothing worthwhile there).
without cedars, there's no longer anything downtown of remote interest to me. the city's effort to turn downtown into "boardman north" (or judging by the poor quality of it all, "austintown east") is terrible and i'm disgusted that it's being done with my tax dollars.
a developer receiving hundreds of thousands in tax abatements kicking out a family-owned business and filling his property with a restaurant selling federally subsidized beef would be the pinnacle of the new conservative ideal.
We need to stop pretending that when two consenting adults enter into a legally binding marriage/civil union contract, the government confers some kind of spiritual blessing or moral approval.
Regardless of my views on the morality of homosexual intercourse, as a straight married Christian, the rights of two men or two women to enter into a legally binding contract do not cheapen or jeopardize my marriage or my family in any way.
Youngstown BOE approves tax abatement for Federal Bldg.
WHY??!!
12 years? 100%? Are you kidding us?
Are you telling me Gatta would somehow not be moving forward with plans for that building without an abatement? And seriously.. 12 YEARS? 2 years might even be a stretch.. was 2 not an option? How about 3? Maybe 4? 5? 6? 7? 8..9..10..11?
The district is in fiscal emergency. This is ridiculous and makes no sense. Between handouts, no interest loans and tax abatements, Dom Gatta is making off like a bandit.
February 13, 2013 at 9:54 a.m. permalink suggest removal
‘Journey to Bethlehem’ shares message of Christmas
*public.. instead of private
December 13, 2012 at 12:17 p.m. permalink suggest removal
‘Journey to Bethlehem’ shares message of Christmas
Since it's not being done on private property, my guess is zero.
December 13, 2012 at 12:10 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Cedars Lounge to close; new building owner is forcing the issue
author50 - cedars has not purchased the coconut grove.
cedars is the longest running establishment downtown.. funny how it survives the complete collapse of the city's economy and downtown life without a cent of government money.. yet doesn't survive the government funded revitalization.. and is run out by a developer that is chummy with the city's developer of downtown events (i can't even imagine a more bogus position).
December 8, 2012 at 2:26 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Cedars Lounge to close; new building owner is forcing the issue
this isn't whining.. this is stating my disapproval of what is being done in downtown youngstown on the backs of taxpayers. what's being done is not part of some sort of pure capitalistic system.. it's a coordinated effort by the city to essentially hand out money to "redevelop" (yes, select tax abatements to some and not others are just that - hand outs).. and it sucks.
this is someone who has supported and been a part of the art and music scene in downtown youngstown over the years expressing that i do not approve of the direction downtown is moving.
this is someone who pays taxes in the city of youngstown expressing that i do not approve of the results of massive tax abatements and grant funding that results in a downtown full of fist pumping meatheads and mediocre restaurants. (several of which, i might add, received large amounts of money, operated for a few years, closed their doors, and never returned a cent to the city)
this is someone who has been a supporter of small businesses in youngstown who does not approve of the city's deference to large developers (frangos, cafaro, dsv/gatta) rather than to the unique spirit of the city that long-time, established treasures like cedars bring.
no one lives downtown, and millions of residents' tax dollars are being spent where they don't live and have little interest of going. we need to spend our money to bring in actual businesses.. not overpriced apartments, second-rate restaurants, and third-rate entertainment at the money pit that is the covelli centre (elton john aside there's been nothing worthwhile there).
without cedars, there's no longer anything downtown of remote interest to me. the city's effort to turn downtown into "boardman north" (or judging by the poor quality of it all, "austintown east") is terrible and i'm disgusted that it's being done with my tax dollars.
December 8, 2012 at 12:45 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Cedars Lounge to close; new building owner is forcing the issue
a developer receiving hundreds of thousands in tax abatements kicking out a family-owned business and filling his property with a restaurant selling federally subsidized beef would be the pinnacle of the new conservative ideal.
December 8, 2012 at 1:29 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Cedars Lounge to close; new building owner is forcing the issue
As much as I'd like to see downtown Youngstown improve, if Cedar's is gone, I'm done with it.
December 8, 2012 at 12:34 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Lack of ramp hampers Boardman woman's life
How dare she get cancer and inconvenience all of these hardworking patriotic Vindicator commenters!
July 8, 2012 at 10:48 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Former Valley pair applauds Obama’s gay marriage stance
We need to stop pretending that when two consenting adults enter into a legally binding marriage/civil union contract, the government confers some kind of spiritual blessing or moral approval.
Regardless of my views on the morality of homosexual intercourse, as a straight married Christian, the rights of two men or two women to enter into a legally binding contract do not cheapen or jeopardize my marriage or my family in any way.
May 11, 2012 at 10:50 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Mother of Warren autistic boy reports second harassment complaint
@danikytn:
those options cost money.
the parents should be able to rely on their school administrators and faculty to keep things in line and prevent these incidents.
if it's not resolved soon, they should sue the district for the cost of attending a school that is actually attentive to his education and safety.
May 2, 2012 at 2:36 p.m. permalink suggest removal