76,You really should read the stories that you post. The vindy story has nothing to do with your last post.
I am going to type slowly so that you can understand this:
Yes a typical horizontal well is a larger operation than a vertical well. However, that one horizontal well will replace up to 20 vertical wells. Therefore, that one well has less surface impact and is better environmentally.
Yes the fracking process of a horizontal well is larger than that of a vertical well. The frack job of a vertical is for one well. the frack job of a horizontal well is similar to performing up to 20 frack jobs. Performing those 20 frack jobs on one site reduces the possibility of accidents and environmental damage. It's safer.
The whole idea of combining horizontal drilling with hydraulic fracturing is environmentally better.
As for the components of frack fluid; most of them can be found in your bathroom, laundry room and under your kitchen sink. Homeowners are not licensed or regulated in the use of those products. But the oil and gas industry is. The industry is regulated by no less than than eight federal laws such as the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Safe Drinking Water Act etc. Plus voluminous state and local regulations.
Remember, over 20 years there have been 50,000 (or more) shale wells drilled and completed using these products. No massive environmental impact as you have predicted.
the Sky Is Falling, the Sky Is Falling. NOT!
April 23, 2014 at 8:32 a.m.
76,In this thread please cite where I spoke of hydraulic fracturing being 60 years old. Typical misinformation.
Just from your description of hydraulic fracturing it's obvious that you don't know what you are talking about.
I also find it interesting that you have continually insisted that hydraulic fracturing is only 7-10 years old yet in this recent post you say it began in the late 1990's (which isn't true). That would make the procedure over 15 years old. But you are incorrect, the initial commercial application of combining horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing was performed by Mitchell Energy about 1994. That is twenty years.
However, none of that really matters; there have been over 50,000 shale wells safely drilled and completed. There has been no massive environmental damage or health impacts as you have predicted.
You are wrong, this is a safe method of extracting natural gas.
BTW I love that you keep citing newspaper articles as sources, they are just stories.
Remember - 50,000 shale wells safely drilled. Come on let me hear you say it - 50,000 shale wells safely drilled.
April 23, 2014 at 8:12 a.m.
76,Sadly you are so predictable.Once again you cherry pick information to suit your warped agenda. Then you don't even read the stuff you post. Take for instance the article about Range; it clearly states that it is about the Marcellus shale. Well if you weren't so intent on cherry picking you would realize that the Barnett Shale of Texas was one of the first shales to be commercially developed. Further, Mitchell employed the first use combined use of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing. That was in the early 1990's. So let's see is that more than seven years ago ? according to my math it's about twenty years ago. You didn't even need to look very hard for this information on the internet.Plus you continue to ignore the fact that over 50,000 shale wells have been drilled and completed since the combination of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drlling have been combined. All with ut the gloom and doom mass environmental havoc you keep predicting.Sad, as always.
April 22, 2014 at 4:14 p.m.
Wrong as usual.The technique of fracking is over 60 years old. Combining horizontal drilling with hydraulic fracturing is relatively new, 20 years ( not the 7-10 you and your mis-informed friends use). Although the remainder of your post is full of misinformation I'll just leave it alone since it has all been debunked in the past by me.Further, the proof is in the record. Over those twenty years there have been more than 50,000 shale wells developed using horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing. No major environmental or health problems.
kurtw, I would also suggest Frack Nation.
April 20, 2014 at 11:07 p.m.
Here is what I am talking about; you and the other leftists environmental whackos claim that if shale development is allowed to continue, using the combination of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, there will be (or has been)wide spread pollution of our land, water and air. That this pollution will (or has) caused serious health problems for people. That is all fear mongering, there is no fact to support your whacko claims.
The fact is that there have been over 50,000 shale wells drilled and completed in the U.S.. Horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing was used on each one of them. Yet there has not been any wide spread pollution of the water, land or air. Nor have there been any wide spread health problems, in fact there haven't been any health problems.
The Sky Is Falling, The Sky Is Falling !
Sorry Chicken Little, it just isn't so and the facts prove it.
April 19, 2014 at 11:28 a.m.
I would glad to take the lie detector.I have substantiated all of my posts with factual information. Whereas, you and your cohort rely on rumors and bad science.
You should consider that i have been able to refute/debunk the info you post. On the other hand you have never been able to do the same with the info I post. Instead you resort to personal attacks like your last post. Sad.
April 19, 2014 at 11:15 a.m.
Yes it is true, I am predictable. You can always count on me to present reasoned, logical, fact based information.
And I can pay you, and 76, the same compliment of being predictable. You always present, rumor, hyperbole, misinformation and rhetoric, never any facts.
April 16, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.
76,I must admit that you never cease to amaze.thinkprogress, dcbureau ? Two well known leftisr webs sites and squarely on the side of the anti-fossil fuel crowd. Hardly credible. All you have to do is read each article and see who the authors hold up as icons, for example the continually discredited Dr.Ingraffea along with his completely debunked paper with Dr. Howarth.
Then there is the old story misusing the profits of oil and gas companies. What is never reported is the percentage of profit. The reason this is never reported is the dishonesty of the authors. Actual percentage of profit ranks low when compared to other corporations, aproximately 7%.vs 12 and more.
Of course neither article mentions the funding to schools from anti-fossil fuel foundations etc. Not to mention the billions of tax payer dollars wasted on grants for alternative energy.
Hypocrisy thy name is 76, or ABC.
April 15, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.
ABC,The corruption runs far deeper on your side of the discussion. Please read the following article:http://www.jlcny.org/site/index.php/n...The hypocrisy runs deep on the anti side.
April 14, 2014 at 10:47 p.m.
76,Here is a headline I believe that you agree with:Birth Defects Result of Fracking.Yet the study cited in this article (Colorado School of Public Health) never, ever says this. Only sensational headlines have ever made that claim. Yet people such as yourself continue to use sensational headlines such as these to make your twisted, misinformed claims.
April 14, 2014 at 7:09 p.m.