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Knightcap, I would hope that gay behavior is abnormal to YOU, because you are not gay. Straight behavior is abnormal to me because God made me gay. The difference between us, is I don't condemn you for how God made you. That's correct, you heard right, the same God made each of us, one straight and one gay. I really don't understand people's cherry picking of the bible. "It says right here that homosexuality is an abomination." Correct, right next to wear it says that wearing polyester is an abomination, and not too many chapters away from where it says "Judge not, lest you be judged.' Isn't it exhausting to be filled with hate for a fellow American??
And then there are others like JS who thinks that if an elected politician has come on the side of equal rights for all americans, that he is himself gay, or turning his back on religion. I want my elected representative to not put religion into the context of their decision for people's rights in this country. We were founded on freedom FROM a certain religion in England, and our founding fathers purposely made us separate the church and our state. With this type of intolerance in our country, that is what will really have something break our country like the first commentor said. It makes me very sad for the posters on here that cannot separate what they dont understand to something they want to persecute and put down. Thanx for making this country a real welcoming place.
April 28, 2013 at 11:41 p.m.
It is so hard for me to disagree with a man of faith that has done so much for the City of Youngstown's South Side, but Father Maturi brings such a false argument here, that I have to call it out. I can accept the Catholic Church's views of homosexuality, just as I can accept any persons view. It is their personal opinion based on teachings from others, either verbal or written, regardless of their truth or not. I may be in the minority of my LGBT Community, but I don't require your personal acceptance, I just demand my personal freedoms and rights that any other citizen is afforded.
Father Maturi's second paragraph says it all, "Married love is not the same as the love between parent and child, or the love and affection between brother and sister, or other deep and lasting friendships." My love for my partner whom I wish to marry is not the same as it is with my family or friends. His statements are really about the often used argument that to be married you must be able to have children. Unfortunately, he uses the word 'intercourse' as a synonym to reproduce, to enforce this argument. Believe me, gay men and women can and do have intercourse, it just cannot end in the ability to reproduce from it.
As has been argued before, if we took his words literally that intercourse or the ability to reproduce is a major or deciding factor in getting married, then by definition anyone who cannot reproduce is excluded from marriage as well. The infertile, the physically disabled, the aged, et. al. I refuse to go into an argument of what intercourse is if Father is not meaning reproduction, because that discussion is not made for newspaper comment section.
Our LGBT Community wants marriage primarily for two reasons; first, for that type of love that Father alludes to in his second paragraph, a special intimate love between two people not of family or friendship. And secondly, for the part of marriage that is contract, (another definition of marriage many years ago,) the contract that grants over 1100 rights to heterosexual married couples, that it denies to homosexual married couples, primarily federally. Again, I respect Father Maturi for all he is trying to do for the safety and concern of the people of Youngstown, especially in his South Side, but this was a very invalid reason to deny our Community marriage rights, and to call what we are looking for, anything other than marriage.
April 21, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.
We want to thank the Mahoning Valley Democratic party for supporting gay marriage, not only in our state, but in our country. We are at another milestone in our country's history, where we are moving equal/civil rights forward. And while we may not have as hard a road as women and blacks may have had, it has been a hard journey none the same. We are not looking to weaken marriage in our country, but only strengthen it by bringing 2 people who love each other profoundly and want to have the same legal rights as any married couple in America, together to live and grow old together.
Gay marriage does not infringe on the institution or the rights of anyone else that is married. I also strongly support the clauses a lot of states are putting in marriage equality laws that does not compel any church to have to provide a marriage service if it is against their religious beliefs. However, I do believe that God loves us all, and would celebrate the joining of two loving people that want to declare their commitment to each other, and that any church should welcome this joyous occasion, gay or straight.
In July, we will see a historic pronouncement by the Supreme Court of the United States on the constitutionality of gay marriage. I believe they will be on the right side of history and agree that the time has come to recognize that gay people are equal and protected under the constitution and cannot be denied any rights that does not infringe upon another's as it is for any citizen of the United States. Hopefully when that happens, a collective sigh of relief will reverberate through our country and our GLBT Community will not have to be hidden in any closet and our Straight friends and allies will see that we are their brother, sister, neighbor, friend, and maybe, just maybe we can all get along.
February 27, 2013 at 10:26 a.m.