Wow. It amazes me, that after you argument- from a theological standpoint has been COMPLETELY ripped apart, you now have heard directly from Jesus himself- to confirm your hatred. You really will say just about anything, Stan. I will continue to pray for you. It is my hope that you truly do find peace.
Stan, Stan, Stan...this may be hard for you to accept- everyone is not like you. When you use words like "deviate" you ARE passing judgement. Jesus does NOT approve that message. Jesus said, "How can you say to your brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye, and ignore the PLANK that is in your own eye? You must first remove the plank from your own eye to see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye." I pray that you are just misguided, and not doing this to wound anyone intentionally. You have no biblical evidence that anything that you are saying is based in scripture- there are even multiple examples of same sex couple in the bible.
(and I can prove that)
Your choice of words, "humilliate" and "enslave" are powerful. No one here is humilliated or enslaved. actually, Stan, people who live in light and in truth to whomever they are- Gay or Straight, are- in fact, truly FREE.
It is my hope that you find peace. I will continue to pray for you. Walk in your divinity.
gaychristian101.com refuge from bigots and fundamentalists through study, prayer and careful study of the word of God.
I really mean this in the nicest possible way- but this needs to be said:
Stan- just who gave YOU the authority to set standards for mankind...and you- again- have nothing (scripturaly) to say other than the same old schtick. You have been brainwashed. This is the danger of places like Exodus International and other organizations like them. They take insecure people, who are strugling with their sexual orientation, and societal pressures to fit into a preconcieved "mold" of what is expected...and turn them into well...you. This is the danger of "reparative therapy." You have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the problem with organizations like these.
Shame on you Stan...God is LOVE...and LOVE...is for EVERYBODY.
I call every LGBT person reading this, to visit this site- EVERYONE should know that these bigots are DEAD WRONG. Tell everyone you know. And soon, everyone will be FREE!
It has biblical self defense against the likes of people like Stan & havc guy who choose to use the word of God to divide, hate, and pass judgment on other human beings.
(as if he-or anyone else for that matter has a heaven or a hell to put you in)
study the information you find there...print it out and share it with others...the beauty of this is that they are going to tell someone, and they-in turn, will tell someone else- and soon, people like Stan, and hvac guy wont have a leg to stand on. Never again will they be able to use SCRIPTURE to harm anyone ever again.
I repeat- their argument- biblicaly, has been torn to shreds and the only thing that they (Stan) have to stand on is the spiel from the "cult mentality" of Exodus international.
(which, I would like to point out- are under investigation)
Moving on...
When Jesus returns, he isn't going to be going down a checklist of who you slept with. He's going to want to know how many people you told about him, how many people did you reach out to...in love- how many people you invited to church...(not how many people you have judged and condemned based on your LIMITED knowledge of a few scriptures) and every time that you do that, the bible says that an angel in heaven is writing it all down. Each time that happens... It will be another star in your crown... and another room in your PALACE.
"They that wait upon the Lord will renew their strength, they shall mount up wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary...they shall walk and not faint."
May all that you touch prosper an never fall to the ground in the name of Jesus.
Be blessed. I urge you, LGBT people, to tell others- May you continue to grow in Christ. Stan...It is my most sincere hope that you begin to know God both in spirit and in truth. I will continue to pray for you and those like you. It is also my hope- that you are doing these things out of ignorance, and not out of hatred...for the sake of your eternal soul...I am truly afraid for you. This is why the Jesus commanded us to PRAY for those who persecute us. Because as you judge others, Stan...so will the King of Kings, the Judge of ALL judges...will judge you. May you see this as an opportunity to walk in your divinity.
Oh..and Stan? why don't you join OUR group...it's called the human race.
George, I haven't lived in Youngstown for over twenty years, I was born there...and something just told me to look at this site- I'm glad I did.
So Stan, I have theologically shot down every hateful argument that you have. You have yet to show me, or anyone else for that matter ANYTHING to back up one word that you have said thus far. It is my hope- Stan- that your "choice" of scriptural interpretation- without any research at all on the climate of the time- is the reason for you bigotry and intolerance. It is my prayer for you Stan- that you are able to love yourself someday- and to quote Glenda from the wizard of OZ...
thanks for commenting on my post- I actually was born in Youngstown, and haven't even lived in Ohio at all for ten years. It does my heart good to know that my hometown is evolving...cheers.
Anything else Stan? And just one more thing...why oh why would you be spending so much time on this..."issue" if you weren't wrestling with something yourself?
Most straight men don't care about what gay people do...You on the other hand, have CLEARLY given this a LOT of thought. Care to share anything with the group, "STAN?"
Factual information is a wonderful antidote for ignorance. Cybele the fertility goddess (this Link will open in a new page) was worshiped throughout the Roman Empire and was also depicted on Roman coins. It is impossible to separate Paul's words in Romans 1 from the fertility goddess worship that permeated first century Rome.
In the heart of Rome, a temple to Cybele was constructed in 194 BC. When fire destroyed the original temple, Augustus rebuilt it in 3 BC.
Cybele, a prominent first century fertility goddess, was sometimes called (Magna Mater) or Great Mother and (Mater Deum) or Mother of the gods. First century Romans worshiped her as the Sacred Protectress of Rome.
moving on...As residents of the Imperial City, ancient Romans personally observed the thousands of statues of false gods, the hundreds of pagan temples, the pagan worshipers thronging the grand streets for religious festivals. Commentators who ignore the historical and religious context of Romans 1 entirely miss the point of Paul's argument against idolatry and shrine prostitution.
Fertility goddess worship and shrine prostitution flourished in first century Rome and are precisely what Paul addressed in Romans 1.
Attempts by nongay Christians, to divorce Romans 1 from its historical context are due more to their support of an anti-gay agenda than a desire to honestly understand Romans 1.
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Wow. It amazes me, that after you argument- from a theological standpoint has been COMPLETELY ripped apart, you now have heard directly from Jesus himself- to confirm your hatred. You really will say just about anything, Stan. I will continue to pray for you. It is my hope that you truly do find peace.
December 16, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Stan, Stan, Stan...this may be hard for you to accept- everyone is not like you. When you use words like "deviate" you ARE passing judgement. Jesus does NOT approve that message. Jesus said, "How can you say to your brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye, and ignore the PLANK that is in your own eye? You must first remove the plank from your own eye to see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye." I pray that you are just misguided, and not doing this to wound anyone intentionally. You have no biblical evidence that anything that you are saying is based in scripture- there are even multiple examples of same sex couple in the bible.
(and I can prove that)
Your choice of words, "humilliate" and "enslave" are powerful. No one here is humilliated or enslaved. actually, Stan, people who live in light and in truth to whomever they are- Gay or Straight, are- in fact, truly FREE.
It is my hope that you find peace. I will continue to pray for you. Walk in your divinity.
gaychristian101.com
refuge from bigots and fundamentalists through study, prayer and careful study of the word of God.
I really mean this in the nicest possible way- but this needs to be said:
Stan- just who gave YOU the authority to set standards for mankind...and you- again- have nothing (scripturaly) to say other than the same old schtick. You have been brainwashed. This is the danger of places like Exodus International and other organizations like them. They take insecure people, who are strugling with their sexual orientation, and societal pressures to fit into a preconcieved "mold" of what is expected...and turn them into well...you. This is the danger of "reparative therapy." You have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the problem with organizations like these.
Shame on you Stan...God is LOVE...and LOVE...is for EVERYBODY.
I call every LGBT person reading this, to visit this site- EVERYONE should know that these bigots are DEAD WRONG. Tell everyone you know. And soon, everyone will be FREE!
gaychristian101.com
-Refuge from those who hate us without cause.
December 15, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Ignore Stan and hvacguy...they're both idiots.
I encourage ALL LGBT People living in Ohio to check out
the following site:
www.gaychristian101.com
It has biblical self defense against the likes of people like Stan & havc guy who choose to use the word of God to divide, hate, and pass judgment on other human beings.
(as if he-or anyone else for that matter has a heaven or a hell to put you in)
study the information you find there...print it out and share it with others...the beauty of this is that they are going to tell someone, and they-in turn, will tell someone else- and soon, people like Stan, and hvac guy wont have a leg to stand on. Never again will they be able to use SCRIPTURE to harm anyone ever again.
I repeat- their argument- biblicaly, has been torn to shreds and the only thing that they (Stan) have to stand on is the spiel from the "cult mentality" of Exodus international.
(which, I would like to point out- are under investigation)
Moving on...
When Jesus returns, he isn't going to be going down a checklist of who you slept with. He's going to want to know how many people you told about him, how many people did you reach out to...in love- how many people you invited to church...(not how many people you have judged and condemned based on your LIMITED knowledge of a few scriptures) and every time that you do that, the bible says that an angel in heaven is writing it all down. Each time that happens...
It will be another star in your crown... and another room in your PALACE.
"They that wait upon the Lord will renew their strength, they shall mount up wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary...they shall walk and not faint."
May all that you touch prosper an never fall to the ground in the name of Jesus.
Be blessed.
I urge you, LGBT people, to tell others- May you continue to grow in Christ.
Stan...It is my most sincere hope that you begin to know God both in spirit and in truth. I will continue to pray for you and those like you. It is also my hope- that you are doing these things out of ignorance, and not out of hatred...for the sake of your eternal soul...I am truly afraid for you. This is why the Jesus commanded us to PRAY for those who persecute us. Because as you judge others, Stan...so will the King of Kings, the Judge of ALL judges...will judge you. May you see this as an opportunity to walk in your divinity.
May God bless you and keep you.
December 15, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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Oh..and Stan? why don't you join OUR group...it's called the human race.
George, I haven't lived in Youngstown for over twenty years, I was born there...and something just told me to look at this site- I'm glad I did.
So Stan, I have theologically shot down every hateful argument that you have. You have yet to show me, or anyone else for that matter ANYTHING to back up one word that you have said thus far. It is my hope- Stan- that your "choice" of scriptural interpretation- without any research at all on the climate of the time- is the reason for you bigotry and intolerance. It is my prayer for you Stan- that you are able to love yourself someday- and to quote Glenda from the wizard of OZ...
"Come out, Come out wherever you are!"
:-)
THERE YOU STAND- IN YOUR SPLENDID IGNORANCE.
December 10, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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ROFL- Stan, you are truly "special"
NEVER did i say you were OK.
December 10, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. permalink suggest removal
leftofstr8
thanks for commenting on my post- I actually was born in Youngstown, and haven't even lived in Ohio at all for ten years. It does my heart good to know that my hometown is evolving...cheers.
December 10, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Anything else Stan? And just one more thing...why oh why would you be spending so much time on this..."issue" if you weren't wrestling with something yourself?
Most straight men don't care about what gay people do...You on the other hand, have CLEARLY given this a LOT of thought. Care to share anything with the group, "STAN?"
(I really could do this all day)
December 10, 2008 at 7 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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(this information is found on http://www.gaychristian101.com/Romans...
December 10, 2008 at 6:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Factual information is a wonderful antidote for ignorance.
Cybele the fertility goddess (this Link will open in a new page) was worshiped throughout the Roman Empire and was also depicted on Roman coins. It is impossible to separate Paul's words in Romans 1 from the fertility goddess worship that permeated first century Rome.
In the heart of Rome, a temple to Cybele was constructed in 194 BC. When fire destroyed the original temple, Augustus rebuilt it in 3 BC.
Cybele, a prominent first century fertility goddess, was sometimes called (Magna Mater) or Great Mother and (Mater Deum) or Mother of the gods. First century Romans worshiped her as the Sacred Protectress of Rome.
December 10, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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moving on...As residents of the Imperial City, ancient Romans personally observed the thousands of statues of false gods, the hundreds of pagan temples, the pagan worshipers thronging the grand streets for religious festivals. Commentators who ignore the historical and religious context of Romans 1 entirely miss the point of Paul's argument against idolatry and shrine prostitution.
Fertility goddess worship and shrine prostitution flourished in first century Rome and are precisely what Paul addressed in Romans 1.
Attempts by nongay Christians, to divorce Romans 1 from its historical context are due more to their support of an anti-gay agenda than a desire to honestly understand Romans 1.
December 10, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. permalink suggest removal