how bout allowing the counties, townships, and cites to tax these injection wells also. These injection wells for waste water are nothing more than a "landfield" for liquid waste. These counties, townships, and cities would need the monies to respond to earth quakes caused by these wells as well as the damage to the roads and the pollution to the ground water. Gerberry, Hagan should be worried about these waste water injection wells popping up all over the place. 2 in Coitsville, 1 in youngstown, 1 planned for Beaver. Get on top of these landfields. We tax BFI for solid waste and make them treat the liquid run-off of the solid waste so whats the difference for liquid waste?? A waste water injection well is just another way of saying "Landfield". And these townships and counties are going to need the monies to put in water lines (after the ground water for drinking becomes pollutted) and fix roads and respond to spills and disasters at these sites!! Coitsville, Beaver, Hubbard, Youngstown, Campbell should get on top of this. The county has the Green Team set up for BFI we can use that for these waste water injection wells.
first of all I didn't "wish" this on this thug. I didn't even know him. I just said what EVERYONE was thinking but was afraid to write it. I'm just saying now that he did the deed himself he saved us the responsibility of incarcerating him a lifetime. He saved some family or families the grief of losing a poor innocent loved one cause the writing was on the wall. This kid was a thug. If it quacks like a thug and carries a gun like a thug It's A Thug. Im saying now that its done, good riddens. I bet everyone who didn't like my post hasn't had a chance to lose a loved one or be victimized by this thug, had you, you would be singing a different tune. I mean why is he now carrying a gun at 14? Look at his record. He attacked a 52-year-old mother and her 19 year old son after kicking their car for no reason. So you can see the writing on the wall. This thug was a thug thrill seeker and stomping and beating innocent people was no longer going to do it for this POS. He was moving up to killing thats why he was carrying a gun. So live by the sword die by the sword. And its a good thing it happened sooner than later cause this dim-wit fired 2 shots so the first shot probably was directed at someone and when he didn't hit his target he looked at the barrel to see if it was shooting straight. So good for him good for everyone else.
Im sorry you still have "faith" but yes Betras did nothing but bad talk about Gains ANY chance he had during speeches or when in front of a News Camera. Betras said Nothing good about Gains. They were both Democrats and lawyers so Betras should have chosen his words wisely but he didn't. And your hiding under a rock if you don't believe that Betras hand picks (like Hanni did) who he wants the party to endorse and thats a fact. And its done so favors are passed around. Look at how many politicians, judges, cops, commissioners, lawyers, etc... that were arrested during the Hanni days when they used endorsements. Then go to the Morley days and see how dropping the endorsements lowered the arrest rate to like zilch...Betras hands picks the Precinct Committee Executive Committee and Precinct Committee people then wines and dines them (like Hanni did) and does some "favor$" for them and they choose who Betras says to choose. Thats the way it works. Dont fool yourself. Dave Ditzler (executive committee) receives the endorsement, Jerry Greene, etc... then those that dont receive the endorsement Betras then tries to intimadate the other people (Hughes, OZ, Goodin) from running using threats that if his "guy" (Macejko) is elected you wont see any deals or if my guy (Ginnetti) is elected you wont see any jobs for friends or family or he calls them names like fat and loser. Now Betras backs that tax loser, Patrick Ginnetti, from Struthers, (who owes $28,000 in back taxes since 2003) for the County Engineer over a great incumbant. Then Betras uses pressure to get Maricso to drop out who was probably one of the greatest engineers this county had and for who? A tax Cheat. So now put a tax cheat in that Office with millions of dollars of contracts for roads and we go right back to the days of 1994 to then Mahoning County Engineer William Fergus a participant in the criminal enterprise called public corruption. Just like the Hanni days when he used endorsements. Ginnetti was part of the "click" we call the Democratic party and Marisco wasn't. So Brtras backs the guy he can control (Ginnetti) and we the tax payers fall for it again. Bet the F.B.I is already watching that Engineers Office. People in this County should stop being told WHO to vote for and start electing great people again not tax cheats. When was the last time you heard something bad about the County Engineers Office? Dont say I told you so when that offfice is knee deep in do-do
Faith. Im sorry you still have "faith" but yes Betras did nothing but bad talk about Gains ANY chance he had during speeches or when in front of a News Camera. Betras said Nothing good about Gains. They were both Democrats and lawyers so Betras should have chosen his words wisely but he didn't. And your hiding under a rock if you don't believe that Betras hand picks (like Hanni did) who he wants the party to endorse and thats a fact. And its done so favors are passed around. Look at how many politicians, judges, cops, commissioners, lawyers, etc... that were arrested during the Hanni days when they used endorsements. Then go to the Morley days and see how dropping the endorsements lowered the arrest rate to like zilch...Betras hands picks the Precinct Committee Executive Committee and Precinct Committee people then wines and dines them (like Hanni did) and does some "favor$" for them and they choose who Betras says to choose. Thats the way it works. Dont fool yourself. Dave Ditzler (executive committee) receives the endorsement, Jerry Greene, etc... then those that dont receive the endorsement Betras then tries to intimadate the other people (Hughes, OZ, Goodin) from running using threats that if his "guy" (Macejko) is elected you wont see any deals or if my guy (Ginnetti) is elected you wont see any jobs for friends or family or he calls them names like fat and loser. Now Betras backs that tax loser, Patrick Ginnetti, from Struthers, (who owes $28,000 in back taxes since 2003) for the County Engineer over a great incumbant. Then Betras uses pressure to get Maricso to drop out who was probably one of the greatest engineers this county had and for who? A tax Cheat. So now put a tax cheat in that Office with millions of dollars of contracts for roads and we go right back to the days of 1994 to then Mahoning County Engineer William Fergus a participant in the criminal enterprise called public corruption. Just like the Hanni days when he used endorsements. Ginnetti was part of the "click" we call the Democratic party and Marisco wasn't. So Brtras backs the guy he can control (Ginnetti) and we the tax payers fall for it again. Bet the F.B.I is already watching that Engineers Office. People in this County should stop being told WHO to vote for and start electing great people again not tax cheats. When was the last time you heard something bad about the County Engineers Office? Dont say I told you so when that offfice is knee deep in do-do
Wow. How nice of Betras to be wishing and hopeing for more bad policies by Gov. Kasich for the next 3 years. Thats it Dave wish for all these bad things to happen just so Gov. Kasich loses the next election. In the mean time we bear all those scars for YEARS afterwards. Instead of wishing for more bad stuff to happen to us why not try to do something to help us dodge those bullets. But since there is NOTHING in it for Betras and because he yields NO power with Gov. Kasich then I guess we get beat up for the next 3 years because thats what Betras wants and hopefully we can pick ourselves up after we are beaten and broken fighting him tooth and nail. Your an a-hole Dave to wish this on us instead of trying to do something to slow him down if you cant stop him. But dont wish more bad things, some that we might not be able to change even if he loses like a private turnpike, private prisions. Cause maybe Gov. Kasich might not win but with you representing the Dem's its a good chance another republican will win. Just stop your stupid remarks.
You will lose any civil case, all by judge or jury cause this County is hopefully smart enough to see that Betras wanted to control the prosecutors office through Macejko just like Hanni did with Gary Vanbroklin and James A. Philomena, the former Mahoning County prosecutor who eventually did prison time. Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains and his assistants this entire election Now . Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because Betras' inside man Macejko lost and will have plenty of cases coming through Paul Gains Office (if your unlikely enough to have Betras or his firm reprsent you) and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) and grand juries failing to indict or outright dismissed cases he was looking forward to with Macejko. Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul for forgiveness. Betras has the nerve to say "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is? There is no chance that Paul will forgive and forget. Just expect to be going to JAIL if you hire Betras. Its all part of the politics of this County. It was starting to change under Morley but the old dog Betras took us right back to the old gutter days. Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his firm LOOK OUT. So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County (except maybe Youngstown) and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of any deals in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc..if Betras' firm represents you. Just think about it ? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman (Morley) had common sense and honestly and did away with endorcements (aka. I Betras do for you and you do for me) Morley changed it so this type of corrupt buddy system did not happen again. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is trying to move this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and bad judges by using the old endorcements for favors buddy system and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm.
Does ANYONE realize that Dave Betras is bad for this County??? He was involved in the Attorney General Marc Dunn election party and led the Marc Dunn election finance campain $$$$ that had corruption written all over it. Now Betras wants to and has to the most part gone back to the old HANNI days of public corruption. He finally got on the election board just as Hanni did. Dave was looking to get Macejko elected so Macejko could dole out the assistant prosecutor jobs HAND PICKED by Betras,just as Hanni did, so that BETRAS was the "man" to go see just as Hanni was, when you had a legal (criminal or civil) matter before a County or Common Pleas Court. Now Dave shot himself in the foot and backed the losing horse and as Hanni used to say "to the victor goes the spoils". So what does that mean if you have Dave Betras or his law firm representing you in ANY COURT in Mahoning County (with maybe the exception of Youngstown, for Now). It Means you can forget about any sweet-heart plea deals, cases getting dismissed, or the grand jury failing to indict you (like Hanni got) with Betras or his law firm at your side. Forget It !!! Dave would have to try EVERY case to have the slightest chance of getting anything for his client and since we all know how well the public juries and Judges dislike Betras for his cocky attitude its A good chance that your going to jail, will be convicted, pay huge fines, not to mention HUGE ATTORNEY FEES to have Betras represent you cause everything has to go to trial.
CORRUPT DAVE BETRAS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WIN !!!! THINK ABOUT IT ?Dave Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains this entire time. Calling him a drunk, lazy, scared, how bad he ran his office, how bad his assistants were, etc... Now all of a sudden Mr. Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because now Betras backed the wrong horse and will have plenty of cases coming thru Paul Gains Office and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) he was looking forward to with Macejko. A warning to ANYONE looking to hire Dave Betras or his law firm Dont Expect Any Great Plea Deals with Betras and his law firm representing you. Your Toast !!!!!! Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul. Betras says "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is ???? I would think twice about hiring Betras or his law firm for ANY cases that has to go through Paul Gains Office, cause if you do, expect to be going to JAIL !!! Its all part of the politics of this County... Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his law firm LOOK OUT.......So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County except Youngstown and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of seeing any great plea deal in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc... as long as Betras or his law firm represents you. Just think about it ??? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman did away with endorcements so this type of buddy system did not happen. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is moving this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and judges and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm. Good luck Dave Betras you just screwed yourself and all your clients. ITS BACK TO THE OLD HANNI WAYS WITH BETRAS AS DEM LEADER. Paul Gains will at least hold Betras back by sticking it Betras' clients if your thick enough to even hire Betras.
Dave Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains this entire time. Calling him a drunk, lazy, scared, how bad he ran his office, how bad his assistants were, etc... Now all of a sudden Mr. Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because now Betras backed the wrong horse and will have plenty of cases coming thru Paul Gains Office and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) he was looking forward to with Macejko. A warning to ANYONE looking to hire Dave Betras or his law firm Dont Expect Any Great Plea Deals with Betras and his law firm representing you. Your Toast !!!!!! Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul. Betras says "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is ???? I would think twice about hiring Betras or his law firm for ANY cases that has to go through Paul Gains Office, cause if you do, expect to be going to JAIL !!! Its all part of the politics of this County... Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his law firm LOOK OUT.......So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County except Youngstown and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of seeing any great plea deal in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc... as long as Betras or his law firm represents you. Just think about it ??? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman did away with endorcements so this type of buddy system did not happen. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is moving this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and judges and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm. Good luck Dave Betras you just screwed yourself and all your clients
Gerberry would tax fracking wastewater recycling operations
how bout allowing the counties, townships, and cites to tax these injection wells also. These injection wells for waste water are nothing more than a "landfield" for liquid waste. These counties, townships, and cities would need the monies to respond to earth quakes caused by these wells as well as the damage to the roads and the pollution to the ground water. Gerberry, Hagan should be worried about these waste water injection wells popping up all over the place. 2 in Coitsville, 1 in youngstown, 1 planned for Beaver. Get on top of these landfields. We tax BFI for solid waste and make them treat the liquid run-off of the solid waste so whats the difference for liquid waste?? A waste water injection well is just another way of saying "Landfield". And these townships and counties are going to need the monies to put in water lines (after the ground water for drinking becomes pollutted) and fix roads and respond to spills and disasters at these sites!! Coitsville, Beaver, Hubbard, Youngstown, Campbell should get on top of this. The county has the Green Team set up for BFI we can use that for these waste water injection wells.
March 30, 2012 at 12:29 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown cops probe whether teen shot himself by accident
first of all I didn't "wish" this on this thug. I didn't even know him. I just said what EVERYONE was thinking but was afraid to write it. I'm just saying now that he did the deed himself he saved us the responsibility of incarcerating him a lifetime. He saved some family or families the grief of losing a poor innocent loved one cause the writing was on the wall. This kid was a thug. If it quacks like a thug and carries a gun like a thug It's A Thug. Im saying now that its done, good riddens. I bet everyone who didn't like my post hasn't had a chance to lose a loved one or be victimized by this thug, had you, you would be singing a different tune. I mean why is he now carrying a gun at 14? Look at his record. He attacked a 52-year-old mother and her 19 year old son after kicking their car for no reason. So you can see the writing on the wall. This thug was a thug thrill seeker and stomping and beating innocent people was no longer going to do it for this POS. He was moving up to killing thats why he was carrying a gun. So live by the sword die by the sword. And its a good thing it happened sooner than later cause this dim-wit fired 2 shots so the first shot probably was directed at someone and when he didn't hit his target he looked at the barrel to see if it was shooting straight. So good for him good for everyone else.
March 21, 2012 at 7:05 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown cops probe whether teen shot himself by accident
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March 21, 2012 at 12:10 p.m. permalink
Kasich is Dems best friend
Im sorry you still have "faith" but yes Betras did nothing but bad talk about Gains ANY chance he had during speeches or when in front of a News Camera. Betras said Nothing good about Gains. They were both Democrats and lawyers so Betras should have chosen his words wisely but he didn't. And your hiding under a rock if you don't believe that Betras hand picks (like Hanni did) who he wants the party to endorse and thats a fact. And its done so favors are passed around. Look at how many politicians, judges, cops, commissioners, lawyers, etc... that were arrested during the Hanni days when they used endorsements. Then go to the Morley days and see how dropping the endorsements lowered the arrest rate to like zilch...Betras hands picks the Precinct Committee Executive Committee and Precinct Committee people then wines and dines them (like Hanni did) and does some "favor$" for them and they choose who Betras says to choose. Thats the way it works. Dont fool yourself. Dave Ditzler (executive committee) receives the endorsement, Jerry Greene, etc... then those that dont receive the endorsement Betras then tries to intimadate the other people (Hughes, OZ, Goodin) from running using threats that if his "guy" (Macejko) is elected you wont see any deals or if my guy (Ginnetti) is elected you wont see any jobs for friends or family or he calls them names like fat and loser. Now Betras backs that tax loser, Patrick Ginnetti, from Struthers, (who owes $28,000 in back taxes since 2003) for the County Engineer over a great incumbant. Then Betras uses pressure to get Maricso to drop out who was probably one of the greatest engineers this county had and for who? A tax Cheat. So now put a tax cheat in that Office with millions of dollars of contracts for roads and we go right back to the days of 1994 to then Mahoning County Engineer William Fergus a participant in the criminal enterprise called public corruption. Just like the Hanni days when he used endorsements. Ginnetti was part of the "click" we call the Democratic party and Marisco wasn't. So Brtras backs the guy he can control (Ginnetti) and we the tax payers fall for it again. Bet the F.B.I is already watching that Engineers Office. People in this County should stop being told WHO to vote for and start electing great people again not tax cheats. When was the last time you heard something bad about the County Engineers Office? Dont say I told you so when that offfice is knee deep in do-do
March 11, 2012 at 1:22 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Did texting controversy play role in Gains’ win?
Faith. Im sorry you still have "faith" but yes Betras did nothing but bad talk about Gains ANY chance he had during speeches or when in front of a News Camera. Betras said Nothing good about Gains. They were both Democrats and lawyers so Betras should have chosen his words wisely but he didn't. And your hiding under a rock if you don't believe that Betras hand picks (like Hanni did) who he wants the party to endorse and thats a fact. And its done so favors are passed around. Look at how many politicians, judges, cops, commissioners, lawyers, etc... that were arrested during the Hanni days when they used endorsements. Then go to the Morley days and see how dropping the endorsements lowered the arrest rate to like zilch...Betras hands picks the Precinct Committee Executive Committee and Precinct Committee people then wines and dines them (like Hanni did) and does some "favor$" for them and they choose who Betras says to choose. Thats the way it works. Dont fool yourself. Dave Ditzler (executive committee) receives the endorsement, Jerry Greene, etc... then those that dont receive the endorsement Betras then tries to intimadate the other people (Hughes, OZ, Goodin) from running using threats that if his "guy" (Macejko) is elected you wont see any deals or if my guy (Ginnetti) is elected you wont see any jobs for friends or family or he calls them names like fat and loser. Now Betras backs that tax loser, Patrick Ginnetti, from Struthers, (who owes $28,000 in back taxes since 2003) for the County Engineer over a great incumbant. Then Betras uses pressure to get Maricso to drop out who was probably one of the greatest engineers this county had and for who? A tax Cheat. So now put a tax cheat in that Office with millions of dollars of contracts for roads and we go right back to the days of 1994 to then Mahoning County Engineer William Fergus a participant in the criminal enterprise called public corruption. Just like the Hanni days when he used endorsements. Ginnetti was part of the "click" we call the Democratic party and Marisco wasn't. So Brtras backs the guy he can control (Ginnetti) and we the tax payers fall for it again. Bet the F.B.I is already watching that Engineers Office. People in this County should stop being told WHO to vote for and start electing great people again not tax cheats. When was the last time you heard something bad about the County Engineers Office? Dont say I told you so when that offfice is knee deep in do-do
March 11, 2012 at 1:09 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Kasich is Dems best friend
Wow. How nice of Betras to be wishing and hopeing for more bad policies by Gov. Kasich for the next 3 years. Thats it Dave wish for all these bad things to happen just so Gov. Kasich loses the next election. In the mean time we bear all those scars for YEARS afterwards. Instead of wishing for more bad stuff to happen to us why not try to do something to help us dodge those bullets. But since there is NOTHING in it for Betras and because he yields NO power with Gov. Kasich then I guess we get beat up for the next 3 years because thats what Betras wants and hopefully we can pick ourselves up after we are beaten and broken fighting him tooth and nail. Your an a-hole Dave to wish this on us instead of trying to do something to slow him down if you cant stop him. But dont wish more bad things, some that we might not be able to change even if he loses like a private turnpike, private prisions. Cause maybe Gov. Kasich might not win but with you representing the Dem's its a good chance another republican will win. Just stop your stupid remarks.
March 11, 2012 at 4:15 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Kasich is Dems best friend
You will lose any civil case, all by judge or jury cause this County is hopefully smart enough to see that Betras wanted to control the prosecutors office through Macejko just like Hanni did with Gary Vanbroklin and James A. Philomena, the former Mahoning County prosecutor who eventually did prison time. Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains and his assistants this entire election Now . Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because Betras' inside man Macejko lost and will have plenty of cases coming through Paul Gains Office (if your unlikely enough to have Betras or his firm reprsent you) and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) and grand juries failing to indict or outright dismissed cases he was looking forward to with Macejko. Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul for forgiveness. Betras has the nerve to say "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is? There is no chance that Paul will forgive and forget. Just expect to be going to JAIL if you hire Betras. Its all part of the politics of this County. It was starting to change under Morley but the old dog Betras took us right back to the old gutter days. Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his firm LOOK OUT. So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County (except maybe Youngstown) and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of any deals in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc..if Betras' firm represents you. Just think about it ? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman (Morley) had common sense and honestly and did away with endorcements (aka. I Betras do for you and you do for me) Morley changed it so this type of corrupt buddy system did not happen again. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is trying to move this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and bad judges by using the old endorcements for favors buddy system and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm.
March 11, 2012 at 3:57 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Kasich is Dems best friend
Does ANYONE realize that Dave Betras is bad for this County??? He was involved in the Attorney General Marc Dunn election party and led the Marc Dunn election finance campain $$$$ that had corruption written all over it. Now Betras wants to and has to the most part gone back to the old HANNI days of public corruption. He finally got on the election board just as Hanni did. Dave was looking to get Macejko elected so Macejko could dole out the assistant prosecutor jobs HAND PICKED by Betras,just as Hanni did, so that BETRAS was the "man" to go see just as Hanni was, when you had a legal (criminal or civil) matter before a County or Common Pleas Court. Now Dave shot himself in the foot and backed the losing horse and as Hanni used to say "to the victor goes the spoils". So what does that mean if you have Dave Betras or his law firm representing you in ANY COURT in Mahoning County (with maybe the exception of Youngstown, for Now). It Means you can forget about any sweet-heart plea deals, cases getting dismissed, or the grand jury failing to indict you (like Hanni got) with Betras or his law firm at your side. Forget It !!! Dave would have to try EVERY case to have the slightest chance of getting anything for his client and since we all know how well the public juries and Judges dislike Betras for his cocky attitude its A good chance that your going to jail, will be convicted, pay huge fines, not to mention HUGE ATTORNEY FEES to have Betras represent you cause everything has to go to trial.
March 11, 2012 at 3:38 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Did texting controversy play role in Gains’ win?
CORRUPT DAVE BETRAS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WIN !!!! THINK ABOUT IT ?Dave Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains this entire time. Calling him a drunk, lazy, scared, how bad he ran his office, how bad his assistants were, etc... Now all of a sudden Mr. Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because now Betras backed the wrong horse and will have plenty of cases coming thru Paul Gains Office and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) he was looking forward to with Macejko. A warning to ANYONE looking to hire Dave Betras or his law firm Dont Expect Any Great Plea Deals with Betras and his law firm representing you. Your Toast !!!!!! Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul. Betras says "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is ???? I would think twice about hiring Betras or his law firm for ANY cases that has to go through Paul Gains Office, cause if you do, expect to be going to JAIL !!! Its all part of the politics of this County... Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his law firm LOOK OUT.......So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County except Youngstown and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of seeing any great plea deal in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc... as long as Betras or his law firm represents you. Just think about it ??? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman did away with endorcements so this type of buddy system did not happen. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is moving this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and judges and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm. Good luck Dave Betras you just screwed yourself and all your clients. ITS BACK TO THE OLD HANNI WAYS WITH BETRAS AS DEM LEADER. Paul Gains will at least hold Betras back by sticking it Betras' clients if your thick enough to even hire Betras.
March 11, 2012 at 3:04 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Gains reigns in tight Mahoning race, fending off Macejko
Dave Betras did nothing but bad talk Paul Gains this entire time. Calling him a drunk, lazy, scared, how bad he ran his office, how bad his assistants were, etc... Now all of a sudden Mr. Betras is changing his tone saying how honest and great a man Gains is and how Great his Office was for the past 15 years. WHY? Because now Betras backed the wrong horse and will have plenty of cases coming thru Paul Gains Office and now Betras wont be able to get all those sweet-heart deals (Plea Bargins) he was looking forward to with Macejko. A warning to ANYONE looking to hire Dave Betras or his law firm Dont Expect Any Great Plea Deals with Betras and his law firm representing you. Your Toast !!!!!! Paul is going to stick to the letter of the law and let Betras have it thats for sure no matter how much Betras begs Paul. Betras says "Im going to sit down with Paul in the next couple of days" who does Betras think he is ???? I would think twice about hiring Betras or his law firm for ANY cases that has to go through Paul Gains Office, cause if you do, expect to be going to JAIL !!! Its all part of the politics of this County... Betras backed the wrong man and now if you hire Betras or his law firm LOOK OUT.......So that pretty much includes EVERY COURT in this County except Youngstown and dont look for Jay to be there much longer. You will have NO Chance Whatsoever of seeing any great plea deal in Boardman, Canfield, Sebring, Austintown, Common Pleas Court, etc... as long as Betras or his law firm represents you. Just think about it ??? It has always worked this way in this County. Thats why the last Chairman did away with endorcements so this type of buddy system did not happen. But Betras being the person he is tried going back to the old Hanni days where backing the winner came with great power. Now Dave Betras and his Law Firm has NO POWER to bargin with Paul Gains' Office or any County Court whatsoever. Betras is still living in the day of the old Hanni times. He backed the only Attorney General in the History of Ohio who had to resign his office because of illegal money being spent, the money that Betras was responsible for. Then Betras was given the slap down the first time he tired to get on the board of elections. Betras is moving this County back to the old days of bad prosecutors and judges and once again Pain Gains took a bullet for this County and stood up to Betras. The ONLY way to teach Betras a lesson is to hit him where it hurts. IN HIS POCKET BOOK. And to do that you dont hire Betras or his law firm. Good luck Dave Betras you just screwed yourself and all your clients
March 7, 2012 at 11:51 a.m. permalink suggest removal