@shelshel....it's very important to know his record!!!!!! Why? Because we need to know the possible reason, for the incident! I myself would like to be assured there is not a reckless serial killer loose! It reassures you! And it's true, as lifes2short said-live by it, die by it. Sad, but truth...
They should understand as well that getting involved with street activity, like selling drugs, stealing, etc.....leads to this type of result. Just as military persons understand its a chance they may die, drug dealers should understand the same. They should know the risk.
Vindyak...well said! Most just sit around...act sad...then carry on. I'm starting to think most just talk about it because it's the hot topic for the moment...and half don't really even know the individual nor dealt, but all of a sudden did...and half saw, and condoned the illegal acts......then you have those who brag bout how they so proud they left Youngstown, or they are leaving, yet never attempt to help in no kind of way....they really should be ashamed to say they once lived here, but left, and that they pray for the city. Cause really that's just as bad. Up and leave, then want to throw in their two cents, but didn't lift a finger of help. And when I say help, it doesn't have to be large scale with assemblies and such, it can be as simple as volunteering at centers, or speaking to a few, or withdrawing from condoning activities. Small scale is just as powerful, and if everyone could take up that role, multitudes may be helped!
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP RUNNING FROM TRUTH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS BRINGING US BACK HERE!!!! I KNOW IT HURTS, BUT IT'S TRUTH. IT SEEMS HARSH, BUT IT'S TRUTH!!!
It's not serial killers, it's crime against others through altercations , usually from wrong activity. There's a lot who stay right in the middle of this place, for many many years, with no problem. It's the life you choose. Cause say everybody leave, ...then what? The city will be still here, just empty ..and it will be another town holding the same reputation Youngstown once held, WHY? Because its people doing the same activity!
I believe it's hope for the inner city people , most are just too impatient, lazy, and find excuses to settle for that life. I stay in the inner city, and grew up in it with siblings, and still stay here and have become successful. Even after my share of struggle and bull, (third year medicine) I have many friends as well who grew up here with a struggle such as me and others, and did something for change! It's just that most run from truth, and want easy ways out, and are insecure. Plus when they have people telling them they can't make it and it's a fairy tale , they give in to the statements when it gets tough. Yet they always chanting, "F*ck PEOPLE, and all they got is they self. And FU*K HATERS.....yet don't apply that to those who label them not being able to make it! It's a mind thing, lazy comfort zone, excuses, and wanting easy ways out!
There are a lot of inner city dwellers who avoid traps and become success, but see what happens is most of those get High and mighty, and feel better than....and leave! They are from one extreme to the next, either extremely street, or extremely sadity, then chanting...IM LEAVING, OR I LEFT YOUNGSTOWN!!! never do they stay, or try to help, or try to make change!!!! Never do they stick up for one another or give good advice, it's always competition, whether street, or sadity!
@diamondm35--exactly! Truth hurts! And it needs to be accepted! If they are really hurt and concerned, then they should fight to stop the cycle. They should stop encouraging and glorifying those who are making a come up through these illegal ways. It just makes these young men strive more and more to get more and more and they get caught up! These young girls need to stop with all these kids and all this jobless, golddiggin! All this going to clubs tryna be the "flyest or baddest" all this fighting , or even all the ""IM GETTING OUT OF HERE" chants....finally go to school or work and thinking they better.... etc accept truth and get it together. Cause Pako and Netta are gone , it matters nothing to them anymore....what about contributing to stopping the cycle!!!! It's sad. And they'll mourn now and quote God and this and that, but this bout to die down, then what......like @lifes2short said....WE BACK TO THE SAME COMMENTS...BUT NO RESULTS! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
And then people are mad and venting on f-book..saying they want to kill others who don't agree with the situation, yet they say GOD be with the recently deceased family...AND GOD THIS AND THAT, but would that same God agree with you getting angry about others disagreements to the point you want to murder them????? Wouldn't that act of anger lead to another one of these situations, a family mourning? Stop playing with God! And any seriously mourning members would not even partake on thid site, seriously! Let's learn from this, and change and help change!
The reason why people are asking questions and bringing up records, is not to bash! It's out of concern, and fear! Also insight! We need to know what caused this. We need to know if there is a serial killer, or burglar that just targets nonspecific persons for no reason. We need to know what precautions we need to take. These individuals are Deceased..and it matters Nothing to them right now , they're no longer here to deal with the nonsense, so those of us that are here, we need closure and understanding. Yes it's very sad for the family, and the family only...because they will miss them. But it's not sad for those individuals because guess what....WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! ...and that's perfectly fine. What we need here, for those of us still here, is to figure out what we can do to try to help change, and have peace before we depart! I think the record being brought up was most definitely to show that if you live that lifestyle, this is the way you die! Just as if you eat unhealthy you live a more painful achy life of disease before you decease! They died as a result of that activity of street life, it's very sad, and no it's not to say that they deserved it, it's just to say, if that is what you are involved in then this is what may take place! It should serve as a wake up call! We do quick to claim Christ and god in sad times or when we want material things, but can't seem to understand how he operates, or his works.***********just as there are tons of pep talks to lead people from unhealthy lifestyle , there are pep talks to lead people from street life! It all makes life more painful!;) just an example! How many of these deaths were just people being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or a serial killer? NO MATTER HOW BAD WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT...WE HAVE TO ACCEPT! WE RUN FROM THE TRUTH AND WANT TO BLAME OTHERS AND WALLOW IN SADNESS OR JUDGEMENT! BUT HOW IS ANY OF THAT GOING TO HELP US! HOW WILL IT STOP US FROM FUTURE SADNESS, IF WE DONT UNDERSTAND IT AND IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM??? HOW CAN WE STOP ANOTHER EPISODE ONCE THIS DIES DOWN??
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version) You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want let's strive to make better choices!
TO ALL FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE DECEASED! I TRULY FEEL FOR THEM CAUSE I MYSELF EXPERIENCED THIS , AND I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS A RESULT OF THE DIRECTION MOST OF MY LOVED ONES WENT,,AND WHAT I DID WAS MOURN, AND SEEK WAYS TO HELP OTHERS LEFT IN MY LIFE.AS WELL AS STOP STREET LIFE OR CONDONING IT MYSELF!! I PRAY FOR STRENGHTH FOR THEM, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK TRUE MEMBERS WOULD EVEN CARE TO BE ON HERE RIGHT NOW!!!
AND IF THIS IS A RESULT OF A SERIAL KILLER OR BURGLAR I PRAY THAT THEY ARE CAUGHT AND OFF THE STREET BEFORE THEY STRIKE RANDOM PEOPLE AGAIN!!
Youngstown's homicides spike
@shelshel....it's very important to know his record!!!!!! Why? Because we need to know the possible reason, for the incident! I myself would like to be assured there is not a reckless serial killer loose! It reassures you! And it's true, as lifes2short said-live by it, die by it. Sad, but truth...
June 18, 2012 at 4:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Double homicide in Youngstown
^so true.
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Identities of South Side murder victims confirmed
They should understand as well that getting involved with street activity, like selling drugs, stealing, etc.....leads to this type of result. Just as military persons understand its a chance they may die, drug dealers should understand the same. They should know the risk.
May 17, 2012 at 12:43 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Vindyak...well said! Most just sit around...act sad...then carry on. I'm starting to think most just talk about it because it's the hot topic for the moment...and half don't really even know the individual nor dealt, but all of a sudden did...and half saw, and condoned the illegal acts......then you have those who brag bout how they so proud they left Youngstown, or they are leaving, yet never attempt to help in no kind of way....they really should be ashamed to say they once lived here, but left, and that they pray for the city. Cause really that's just as bad. Up and leave, then want to throw in their two cents, but didn't lift a finger of help. And when I say help, it doesn't have to be large scale with assemblies and such, it can be as simple as volunteering at centers, or speaking to a few, or withdrawing from condoning activities. Small scale is just as powerful, and if everyone could take up that role, multitudes may be helped!
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP RUNNING FROM TRUTH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS BRINGING US BACK HERE!!!! I KNOW IT HURTS, BUT IT'S TRUTH. IT SEEMS HARSH, BUT IT'S TRUTH!!!
May 17, 2012 at 12:21 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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It's not serial killers, it's crime against others through altercations , usually from wrong activity. There's a lot who stay right in the middle of this place, for many many years, with no problem. It's the life you choose. Cause say everybody leave, ...then what? The city will be still here, just empty ..and it will be another town holding the same reputation Youngstown once held, WHY? Because its people doing the same activity!
May 17, 2012 at 11:17 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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I believe it's hope for the inner city people , most are just too impatient, lazy, and find excuses to settle for that life. I stay in the inner city, and grew up in it with siblings, and still stay here and have become successful. Even after my share of struggle and bull, (third year medicine) I have many friends as well who grew up here with a struggle such as me and others, and did something for change! It's just that most run from truth, and want easy ways out, and are insecure. Plus when they have people telling them they can't make it and it's a fairy tale , they give in to the statements when it gets tough. Yet they always chanting, "F*ck PEOPLE, and all they got is they self. And FU*K HATERS.....yet don't apply that to those who label them not being able to make it! It's a mind thing, lazy comfort zone, excuses, and wanting easy ways out!
There are a lot of inner city dwellers who avoid traps and become success, but see what happens is most of those get High and mighty, and feel better than....and leave! They are from one extreme to the next, either extremely street, or extremely sadity, then chanting...IM LEAVING, OR I LEFT YOUNGSTOWN!!! never do they stay, or try to help, or try to make change!!!! Never do they stick up for one another or give good advice, it's always competition, whether street, or sadity!
May 17, 2012 at 9:56 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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@diamondm35--exactly! Truth hurts! And it needs to be accepted! If they are really hurt and concerned, then they should fight to stop the cycle. They should stop encouraging and glorifying those who are making a come up through these illegal ways. It just makes these young men strive more and more to get more and more and they get caught up! These young girls need to stop with all these kids and all this jobless, golddiggin! All this going to clubs tryna be the "flyest or baddest" all this fighting , or even all the ""IM GETTING OUT OF HERE" chants....finally go to school or work and thinking they better.... etc accept truth and get it together. Cause Pako and Netta are gone , it matters nothing to them anymore....what about contributing to stopping the cycle!!!! It's sad. And they'll mourn now and quote God and this and that, but this bout to die down, then what......like @lifes2short said....WE BACK TO THE SAME COMMENTS...BUT NO RESULTS! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
May 17, 2012 at 9:30 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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And then people are mad and venting on f-book..saying they want to kill others who don't agree with the situation, yet they say GOD be with the recently deceased family...AND GOD THIS AND THAT, but would that same God agree with you getting angry about others disagreements to the point you want to murder them????? Wouldn't that act of anger lead to another one of these situations, a family mourning? Stop playing with God! And any seriously mourning members would not even partake on thid site, seriously! Let's learn from this, and change and help change!
May 16, 2012 at 9:46 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Double homicide in Youngstown
The reason why people are asking questions and bringing up records, is not to bash! It's out of concern, and fear! Also insight! We need to know what caused this. We need to know if there is a serial killer, or burglar that just targets nonspecific persons for no reason. We need to know what precautions we need to take. These individuals are Deceased..and it matters Nothing to them right now , they're no longer here to deal with the nonsense, so those of us that are here, we need closure and understanding. Yes it's very sad for the family, and the family only...because they will miss them. But it's not sad for those individuals because guess what....WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! ...and that's perfectly fine. What we need here, for those of us still here, is to figure out what we can do to try to help change, and have peace before we depart! I think the record being brought up was most definitely to show that if you live that lifestyle, this is the way you die! Just as if you eat unhealthy you live a more painful achy life of disease before you decease! They died as a result of that activity of street life, it's very sad, and no it's not to say that they deserved it, it's just to say, if that is what you are involved in then this is what may take place! It should serve as a wake up call! We do quick to claim Christ and god in sad times or when we want material things, but can't seem to understand how he operates, or his works.***********just as there are tons of pep talks to lead people from unhealthy lifestyle , there are pep talks to lead people from street life! It all makes life more painful!;) just an example! How many of these deaths were just people being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or a serial killer? NO MATTER HOW BAD WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT...WE HAVE TO ACCEPT! WE RUN FROM THE TRUTH AND WANT TO BLAME OTHERS AND WALLOW IN SADNESS OR JUDGEMENT! BUT HOW IS ANY OF THAT GOING TO HELP US! HOW WILL IT STOP US FROM FUTURE SADNESS, IF WE DONT UNDERSTAND IT AND IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM??? HOW CAN WE STOP ANOTHER EPISODE ONCE THIS DIES DOWN??
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)
You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want let's strive to make better choices!
TO ALL FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE DECEASED! I TRULY FEEL FOR THEM CAUSE I MYSELF EXPERIENCED THIS , AND I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS A RESULT OF THE DIRECTION MOST OF MY LOVED ONES WENT,,AND WHAT I DID WAS MOURN, AND SEEK WAYS TO HELP OTHERS LEFT IN MY LIFE.AS WELL AS STOP STREET LIFE OR CONDONING IT MYSELF!! I PRAY FOR STRENGHTH FOR THEM, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK TRUE MEMBERS WOULD EVEN CARE TO BE ON HERE RIGHT NOW!!!
AND IF THIS IS A RESULT OF A SERIAL KILLER OR BURGLAR I PRAY THAT THEY ARE CAUGHT AND OFF THE STREET BEFORE THEY STRIKE RANDOM PEOPLE AGAIN!!
May 16, 2012 at 3:53 p.m. permalink suggest removal