several months ago when we were talking about helping out the auto industry many of the people who post on this site said they hoped gm would fail somehow to punish the autoworkers. one guy even said the area wouldn't suffer if it did. (fortunately, i haven't seen any of his posts lately.) but here we are and is anyone really happy about it?
and to everyone who's out of work, i can only say i've been in that situation and somehow things work out. but it's really hard. good luck.
January 28, 2009 at 11:55 a.m.
grump, we'd all be happier.
January 13, 2009 at 8:59 a.m.
who would have ever thought it, but i agree with both of oldmangrump's comments.
as for fleeytown, ya know, flee, i get really tired of hearing people with college educations talk as if they are superior to someone who came out of high school and immediately went to work. so for the eight years you were hidden away earning your "advanced degree" and drinking beer through a funnel, another guy was contributing to society, providing goods or services, supporting his family, paying his taxes and busting his ass.
who are you to look down your nose at anyone because you're more educated? and how dare you put a price on what another man does for his living? and after reading several of your posts, well, i have to say you sure don't write like a person with an advanced degree, hot shot.
January 6, 2009 at 2:38 p.m.
marc dann was the ohio state attorney general not the youngstown attorney general. so more than just the people of youngstown voted for him.
and your advice to "get outta youngstown fast" is sound. if a city is dying, everyone should do their little part and leave.
i bet i'm not the only one who's glad you're an ex-youngstowner.
oh, and i looked up the definition of insanity. you were wrong there too.
December 29, 2008 at 1:24 p.m.
xytown: i'm curious. how do you know what "the majority" of youngstowners thinks? have you asked them? and why did you use quotes?
December 28, 2008 at 4:36 p.m.
boy, the joke would have been on them. on december 22 in my pocket i had a dollar, a nickle, a penny, a button and a linty mento. that's all that was left.
December 27, 2008 at 12:38 p.m.
see there. after all the arguing back and forth, between the politicians in washington and us on this site, greoge w. stepped in and did the only thing he could possibly have done to stave off the worst depression in eighty years.
but there are two things i wonder. did he do it so that history will not be written about him as being in charge when the economy crumbled? and does he even believe in his own financial policies in the first place? because earlier on he said he would never do exactly what he has just done.
either way, i'm glad.
December 19, 2008 at 11:09 a.m.
so if gmac goes belly up, does that mean i don't have to pay of my car? hmmm.
December 15, 2008 at 2:42 p.m.
youngstownmom, you said, "I believe that GM needs to do some fixing before they get our money, because if they don't they will blow through that money and then be back in Washingtown begging for some more."
isn't that like telling someone who's drowning to stop first and then you'll administer cpr? they need the money now before it's too late. then they can clean house from the top and get rid of the guys who ruined things in the first place.
the american auto industry has always had the ability to run the business right. it just never had to before.
December 11, 2008 at 11:51 a.m.
no mom, i'm still here with clean hands. but i do recall you saying that while you're not as old as me (and i'm certain that's true) you remember when the steel mills closed and youngstown survived. the fact is it didn't. it's been slowly and steadily dying ever since. half of the population left and we're still reeling from it.
i'm all for accountability from the auto industry. lord, it had come to this for the government to step in and do something about the way it's been managed.
but a failure of the area's largest employer would be devestating. even if, as oldmangrump says over and over, bankruptcy would make it come back stronger, it won't here. lost wages and families cannot be recovered.
and if he has his way and all unions were to suddenly vanish, be prepared for a workforce who makes $10 an hour, with few or no benefits--until they finally get together as one and demand fairness.
you simply cannot count on companies to treat their workers fairly and with dignity. though i'm sure it has happened--somewhere, it's the exception rather than the rule.
December 11, 2008 at 4 a.m.