Anything any of the Hagan's are involved in I oppose in principle.
Besides, as a life-long teetotaler, I oppose any ingestion into the human body of any substance other than pure water (preferably charcoal-filtered), good mother's milk and carrot juice.
August 25, 2015 at 11:07 p.m.
Great comments on this thread- loved reading them! Every one of them good. "Hands Up Don't Mow". Just love it!
Poor, poor Gillams- their ears must be burning. I feel so sorry for them...
August 25, 2015 at 11:01 p.m.
RepublicanRick, I enjoy reading many of your comments, they're generally very well written. I get carried away sometimes in mine with sarcasm ("warped" sarcasm- somebody wrote about me) and, many times, I go on for too long. Must be the medicine I take. Take care.
August 25, 2015 at 9:57 p.m.
And, also, I would try to connive you into buying drinks! Assuming it wasn't an open bar, which is my favorite kind of event. ( By the way, I'm still hoping the family running the Vindy spreads a little of IT'S wealth by sponsoring an open bar annual banquet at Mr Anthony's to benefit some of the tireless scribblers on this message board. I see it as a form of "Profit Sharing" based on "hits" to the website which, let's face it, are largely due to the efforts of us contributors for which we receive no remuneration. Fair's fair.)
August 25, 2015 at 12:04 p.m.
"A lot is expected from those that have received a lot". That's a good principle and I agree with you, in theory, but it is striclty voluntary on their part. Rich people earned their money and should be entitled to keep it without being made to feel guilty about it. That's a trick of the Socialists- hence my jibe at your handle.
Most wealthy individuals and families routinely set up foundations for charitable purposes and The Cafaro's are no exception. They have a foundation worth in the neighborhood of 30 million which yearly donates 1.5 to 2 million to various charitable organizations- most of them based in this community. Now, some people may say that's a paltry sum in relation to their net worth, but I see it as a gift freely given; they're not "obligated" to donate anything. (I know, they get tax benefits. But, so what? Everybody uses the tax code for personal benefit. It's not a crime). And, of course, the Cafaro's already make substantial donations to the local Democrat Party- keeping the machinery lubricated.
By the way, my only connection to the Cafaro's is I sometimes go into the Eastwood Mall. That's it. (Generally, I hate Malls). I defended them- on this issue- because I feel your criticism was an unfair one- what they contribute- or don't contribute- to Charity is Their Business, just as what you chose to contribute- or not- is yours.
Finally, Rick, if I met you at a cocktail party, I wouldn't move away. I would stay near so you could explain to me the meaning of Republicanism. I would love to know how you feel about the matter.
August 25, 2015 at 10:50 a.m.
Lupo, "The Vindicator employs relatively few, and the ones they do are paid menial wages." That's not true. "Menial" by whose definition. I'm sure the pressmen and maintenance people are making a good buck and, I would venture to say, they have to pay their newsroom people- reporters, editors, production people- a pretty good buck too- otherwise they couldn't keep them.
You bring up Covelli as one of your local paragons. I like Panera's. Go there at least twice a week and the people are always very friendly. I wonder what Covelli pays them? Not that much, I'm betting. Of course, I know he does a lot of charity work- but so does the Vindicator. And it may be that a daily newspaper is just as important as fresh bagels.
August 24, 2015 at 12:06 a.m.
Also, Lupo, if you disagree with Bert, that's one thing- I do all the time, but to bring in a physical disability as a snide joke is just- LOW. And despicable- Must be that "stick up your ass". Maybe a drink or two would help...
August 23, 2015 at 11:35 p.m.
Lupo, Your appraisal is a bit harsh- wouldn't you say? Especially comparing the Vindy to the National Enquirer (what you say about Betty and Mark is between you and them)- but when was the last time the National Enquirer covered local news in Y-town? When? So eliminate the Vindicator (and the Trib in Warren)- so who is left? The TV Stations? What do they give you? 15 second snippets provided by grinning hunks and pretty girls- and that's about it. What about the historical record which the Vindy provides? Coverage going back 100 some years which they can access: If they fold what happens to all that?
If I were you I would see a competent proctologist and have the "stick up your ass" removed before writing again. (I have a couple of good ones I can recommend- one of them operated on my piles recently and did a wonderful job so I can sit without pain again.)
Seriously, the real "meat and potatoes" of a paper like the Vindy is not the "armchair quarterbacks" like Bert (which I resemble), but the real journalists that go out and gather news- objectively reported- like Millegan and Gorman, the other reporters, to inform the rest of us- so we don't have to bust our butts to get the facts( which, as amateurs, we couldn't get if we tried) - and all that for 4 bits a day (cheaper if you buy by the month). A real bargain, by any measure.
August 23, 2015 at 11:30 p.m.
GOPrick, "Cafaros give crumbs to local charities. While any contribution is appreciated, their largesse is very very small in relation to their vast wealth."
I know the Cafaro's are multi-millionaires, but I think their charitable giving amounts to a lot more than crumbs. And, pray tell, what percentage of their income should they donate in order to meet with your approval?
Rhetorical Question: What percentage of YOUR income did you donate to charity the last ten years? Hopefully more than a few measly "crumbs".
Rick, did you ever think of changing your on-line handle to the other party's- the Dems? Because the class-envy rhetoric in your comment reminds me an awfully lot of them- and not the Republicans.
By the way, if the Cafaro's- hounded out by Bert and the Vindy- decided to move their operations to New Castle (which, so the scuttlebutt goes, they may do) - then that community would benefit from their charitable "crumbs". (Heaven knows they could use it. What a dump.)
New Castle would gain, and Youngstown would lose, but not to worry- maybe the Vindy Publishers would make up the difference? Fitting in a way- two local families with similar histories: both beneficiaries of inherited wealth, but I wouldn't call either one "arrogant". That was Bert's expression.
P.S. Above was written by a proud member of the Y-town "hoi polloi".
August 23, 2015 at 10:22 p.m.
@BenZ, " And only God and Tony know the truth."
You've got that wrong, Benny. Bert knows. I suspect he has a direct line to the Guy Upstairs, or maybe he had a vision in one of his dreams or- A Burning Bush at the Rose garden?
Whatever, nobody could write about Tony Cafaro with as much certainty as Bert without having knowledge not shared by the rest of us.
Too bad Mike DeWine doesn't share Bert's insight. Start praying, Mike. Maybe God will talk to you also.
August 23, 2015 at 8:01 p.m.