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Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

You guys crack me up with your back and forth- it's like a tennis match but there's more than two players.

Mark and Mrs. J. must love this thread- every hit means more money for the Vindy.

December 17, 2014 at 11:41 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

Well, ok, I'm glad I got back into this thread again- we're up to 568- at this rate we'll clear 600 by New Years and Mrs J. and Mark will host us to their banquet. I'm a dreamer...

P.S. I guess I did a good job of ingratiating myself to the local Allstate Agent. I'm not saying Insurance agents are inherently bad, not all, they just need more guidance...

December 15, 2014 at 11:23 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

It isn't just this article that talks about the German Health Care system (along with that of Japan) as something we can emulate- I came across a similar report a few years ago- though I can't source it (I'm going to research the matter and find it).

The Bottom Line is: The Old System- letting Insurance Companies run the show with little or no supervision is "dead and buried" and it ain't coming back. The Insurance Industry (I want to say "racket") did their almighty darnedest to make themselves unpopular (to say the least -"hated" is closer to the truth) in all the years they exploited sickness and human suffering in this country to pad their own wallets. With Government Supervision- as in Germany- I at least- as a citizen in a democracy- along with other citizens have some control over what happens. Did you ever try dealing with an Insurance Company- on your own- without help from somebody? They're the biggest group of scamsters and con-artists on Earth. The only thing they understand is a law suit.

Also, in the Atlantic Article, I learned another important fact: In Germany the split between employer-employee contributions is, across the board, 50-50. Not like here, where employers are expected to pay all or almost all of the premium for their workers- which I find highly unfair: Why should I expect somebody I work for to pay all or most of the cost of maintaining My Body? A fifty-fifty split seems fair to me.

December 15, 2014 at 10:13 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

I scrolled back a little on this thread and saw discussion of American Health Care- Pros and Cons of Obama Care, etc. and then came across an interesting article on line in the April 8, 2014 issue of Atlantic Monthly: "What American Healthcare Can Learn From Germany". Talked about efficiency and effectiveness of the German System- comparing it favorably to UK and Canadian Models. Here's excerpt from that article:

"You can think of this setup (Germany's system) as the Goldilocks option among all of the possible ways governments can insure health. It's not as radical as single-payer models like the U.K.’s, where the government covers everyone. And it's also not as brutal as the less-regulated version of the insurance market we had before the ACA." I can't quote anymore than that because of time limits, but this is an excellent article and if the US. moves closer in their direction (actually Obama Care- as the writer points out- shares many similarities to the German System) then we should be in good shape. What IS certain is that our country will Never go back to the unregulated private insurer market we had before- and, I say, GOOD: I have a name for people in the Insurance Business- "Riverboat Gamblers"- their mentality- and ethics- are real close to those of the people running the "Hollywood Racino" and entrusting health care to them- without Government Oversight- is like asking the Fox to watch the Chicken Coop.

P.S. Actually, the fact that Germany has an efficiently run Health Care System is not surprising- the Germans have a Genius for that kind of thing (ever shop at the German-owned store Aldi"s. Did you EVER see a more efficiently run operation?)

December 15, 2014 at 7:58 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

Typo above- left out the "t"- called myself "Kurw". At least I don't spell my handle with a "c" in which case I would have ended up with: "Curw"! Not very complementary although a lot of people who read my comments would call it appropriate! "Curw" (now if I were a dog what breed would I be? I like to think an Afghan, so sleek and graceful, but, unfortunately, the mirror disagrees and calls me a Basset Hound instead!)

December 15, 2014 at 3:32 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

@jojuggie: Christmas wishes to Democrats... That's good, I like that. Made sure I copied for myself to pass on.

Concerning Cambridge's snide remark, I have only one thing to say: Bah Humbug! Why is it that so many liberals, whenever they read something they don't like (generally because it's true and it bothers them) resort to the generic term- "teabaggers"? (Doesn't make any sense- most Conservatives believe in responsible government and taxation- not slashing everything). It would be like me calling Liberals- Bolsheviks. (Mmm. Come to think of it- let me revise that: the two expressions aren't parallel at all- reflexively calling Conservatives "teabaggers" is just dumb; calling Liberals Bolsheviks (or Marxists) is a pretty fair fit- based on their views and actions! MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR ONE AND ALL!

P.S. Here's my Suggested New Years Prayer for residents of Sunny California : "Dear Lord (insert Deity of Choice, or none, in which case use ****)- We beseech thee in thy infinite mercy to grant us another year of enjoying the wonderful state you've given us in mere Fiscal Distress without having to resort to the heinous, and highly inconvenient (would mean we have to cut spending) step of Bankruptcy Protection. Above all, please allow us to continue spreading the taxpayers lawfully confiscated- er, contributed- moneys to assist in the happiness of your children across our Southern Border. We all know, SECURED BORDERS were invented by Satan (and promoted by his evil henchmen- the teabaggers) to disturb your Divine Plan.Thank You, Our Lord- in advance- for answering our Humble Plea! (Oh, one other thing, Dear Lord, all the damn Wildfires, Mudslides, and Tremors you've been sending lately- is all that really necessary? Isn't there a way we could get you to reduce them? How would it be if Our Fair Sisters Nancy and Diane- not to mention Sister Barbara- intervened on our behalf? They are masters of eloquence having practiced in Congress. Thank You, again, Dear Lord, and may you enjoy your Day in Comfort! We're told you now have a Jacuzzi!)

P.P.S. For what it's worth- and it most likely isn't worth much- above parody was authored by yours truly- Kurw- and not clipped and pasted from anywhere else.

December 15, 2014 at 3:13 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

Billdog makes a good point about "hate on this string", but how wonderful it is to be able to discharge hate and venom on a message board instead of on top of a building shooting down at people. The Vindy- by providing this venue for the discharge of bile- is to be commended for saving many innocent lives...

December 12, 2014 at 11:23 p.m. suggest removal

Hatefest toward Obama reflects more on haters than on president

Well, I see you guys passed the 500 mark- Congratulations! The Vindy never did ante up for that banquet at Mr. Anthony's (when you reached 500)- what a bunch of cheapskates- well, I know times are hard in the newspaper business and I'm sure Mrs J and Mark are saving up for their retirement.

December 12, 2014 at 11:15 p.m. suggest removal

If you, too, were outraged by funeral coverage in Saturday Vindy

I don't like your hairstyle either. What do you use in there to spike it? Mouse? Crisco Shortening? Or is that just a shot of you reacting to your last paycheck from Mrs. J.? I know times are hard in the Newspaper Industry....

December 12, 2014 at 11:07 p.m. suggest removal

YSU plans to eliminate more vacant positions

The Vindicator Management should apply some of the suggestions I made in the previous comment to it's own staffers- especially the part concerning making obese people and smokers ante up a fair share of the expense their self-inflicted infirmities cause the rest of us: if you choose to harm yourself shouldn't you at least cough up at least 50 per cent of the cost of repairing the damage? 10 per cent is a mere pittance. (I don't know what per cent Vindy staffers pay toward health insurance- but I'm pretty sure it isn't anywhere near 50 per cent. I'm betting closer to 10 per cent, which, again, strikes me as ludicrous- it's your body, right? So, why shouldn't you share at least half the burden of maintaining it with your employer- who already pays you a pretty decent salary for your time? Does that sound fair?) )

December 12, 2014 at 10:58 p.m. suggest removal



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