I don't know if you're intentionally trying to piss me off, or if you're actually asking a legitimate question.
I don't see why being pierced or not should weigh on the character of an individual. If getting a piercing is stupid, would that imply that every person who's ever gotten a piercing is stupid? Or is the real issue that you don't personally find the idea of a piercing on yourself to be aesthetically pleasing? If it's something you really wanted, it wouldn't matter what anybody else thought of you, that's the point. And if you, personally, find it stupid... what, in your opinion, makes it so stupid? Just curious.
You seem to be fairly animate about this carnie career idea... hell, to the point of absolute redundancy. Are you somehow trying to imply that all people with facial piercings belong working as carnies, or are you just trying to find new, interesting coworkers?
The "hole in the face" issue is a giant steaming load of BS. Actually, I already addressed it in a previous comment. What exactly is the health risk here? He might drool on someone from a distance? Oh my goodness gracious. There's a higher health risk from being sneezed or coughed or sweated on.. which applies to everyone. Are they going to start banning people from attending school whenever they have a cold? You do know that a person is the most contagious before they happen to show symptoms, right? So maybe we could cancel all school events period, given the presumption that someone might be getting sick and not know it yet. You know, cause it might be a liability.
Dr. G - I'm positive that our opinions are shaped due to personal experience. And you're completely entitled to yours. It would be entirely hypocritical of me to say otherwise. In fact, despite disagreeing with your stance on the issue, I don't have a problem with anything you've said. It's your opinion :) You aren't the one who goes as far as to grossly overgeneralize pierced people as "stupid and disfigured". Cause I can point out a number of individuals who aren't pierced and are quite stupid as well :) It's not the aesthetic choices you take that make you stupid, necessarily. Anyhow, is that a Hunter S Thompson reference I'm picking up, or am I completely nuts?
I suppose that depends on who you choose to be your company. A majority of my friends are pierced, and all have meaningful careers. I've already gone over what I do, even pierced. (I work for NASA, just as a refresher). As pierced friends go - god, they're all kinds of things.. lawyers, doctors, scientists, engineers, executive managers, and the list goes on. The odds are reasonable if you know how to present and carry yourself professionally.
And to your own credit, I don't recall you saying anything that would be considered condemning marriage at a young age - and you're entitled to opinion as everyone else is. Flaming isn't necessary though... neither towards you or from you. I don't see it as doing any good for the point anyone's trying to make.
Also.... no one puts bolts in their faces. The very few who do are fairly stupid (I'm not talking people with piercings in general, even facial piercings - I'm talking people who are actually putting pieces of hardware in their body as opposed to jewelry). Most jewelry is made from a material other than alloy steel with a zinc coating. It's just not healthy or safe to put any random piece of metal in your body.
Wow. Not only am I completely amazed at the hypocrisy coming from the school, but somewhat offended at the narrow-mindedness coming from the comments on this article.
It's possible that I'm biased, being that I am a member of the community of "undisciplined, disfigured, stupid" individuals that you feel so bent on insulting.
For reference, I'm married with a child, and hardly live an "alternative lifestyle". I'm not a drug addict, alcoholic, criminal, sexual deviant, white trash, low-life, high school dropout, or so on and so forth. In fact, I happen to have a Bachelor's degree in Network Management, and currently in the process of obtaining my MBA. Oh yeah, and I'm employed by the government. NASA, to be exact. Actually, Lockheed Martin as a civilian subcontractor for NASA, but I'm sure you get the point. And when I'm not working and studying, I'm at home - taking care of my family. Funny, considering that you can't necessarily say that of a majority of the people out there, even ones who aren't "disfigured". What's their excuse?
Yes, I'm pierced, "gauged" (stretched is the correct term), and tattooed. Piercing jewelry is made from all kinds of materials - silicone, pyrex, acrylic, stainless steel, and even your "precious metals and gems". So if you want to get technical, technically it can fall under the realm of the Oxford definition of jewelry, given the material you use.
Modded people are everywhere, ladies and gents. We're lawyers, business professionals, enlisted in the military, IT professionals, and the list goes on. Why is there such a problem? Some people like to buy $800 Louis Vuitton purses, we happen to like adorning our bodies with things that we find aesthetically pleasing. It's not YOUR opinion of how we look that matters, it's OUR opinion of how we look. It's this kind of closed-minded way of thinking that plagues our society on a regular basis. It's just sad, really.
However, as the rules go, technically with the jewelry in, he would be violating school dress code. Graduate or not, the dress code applies to any guest attending a school function. That's common sense, in any situation. However, if taken literally, removing the jewelry should be perfectly acceptable - as the dress code does state that wearing the jewelry is not allowed. He offered an alternative, which involved removing the jewelry to coincide with the rules, to which they replied with another (frankly BS) excuse. There's no more of a health issue of him having a hole in his lip versus letting someone come to school with a cold. I mean, if someone gets hepatitis, is it OK to ban them from school activities in the rare case they might bleed on someone?
Piercings keep husband of student out of dances
Ha. I administer a forum full of trolls. These guys are amateurs :)
Still waiting for your response, Stan.
November 20, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Piercings keep husband of student out of dances
I don't know if you're intentionally trying to piss me off, or if you're actually asking a legitimate question.
I don't see why being pierced or not should weigh on the character of an individual. If getting a piercing is stupid, would that imply that every person who's ever gotten a piercing is stupid? Or is the real issue that you don't personally find the idea of a piercing on yourself to be aesthetically pleasing? If it's something you really wanted, it wouldn't matter what anybody else thought of you, that's the point. And if you, personally, find it stupid... what, in your opinion, makes it so stupid? Just curious.
You seem to be fairly animate about this carnie career idea... hell, to the point of absolute redundancy. Are you somehow trying to imply that all people with facial piercings belong working as carnies, or are you just trying to find new, interesting coworkers?
November 19, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Piercings keep husband of student out of dances
The "hole in the face" issue is a giant steaming load of BS. Actually, I already addressed it in a previous comment. What exactly is the health risk here? He might drool on someone from a distance? Oh my goodness gracious. There's a higher health risk from being sneezed or coughed or sweated on.. which applies to everyone. Are they going to start banning people from attending school whenever they have a cold? You do know that a person is the most contagious before they happen to show symptoms, right? So maybe we could cancel all school events period, given the presumption that someone might be getting sick and not know it yet. You know, cause it might be a liability.
Dr. G - I'm positive that our opinions are shaped due to personal experience. And you're completely entitled to yours. It would be entirely hypocritical of me to say otherwise. In fact, despite disagreeing with your stance on the issue, I don't have a problem with anything you've said. It's your opinion :) You aren't the one who goes as far as to grossly overgeneralize pierced people as "stupid and disfigured". Cause I can point out a number of individuals who aren't pierced and are quite stupid as well :) It's not the aesthetic choices you take that make you stupid, necessarily. Anyhow, is that a Hunter S Thompson reference I'm picking up, or am I completely nuts?
November 19, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Piercings keep husband of student out of dances
Gonzo -
I suppose that depends on who you choose to be your company. A majority of my friends are pierced, and all have meaningful careers. I've already gone over what I do, even pierced. (I work for NASA, just as a refresher). As pierced friends go - god, they're all kinds of things.. lawyers, doctors, scientists, engineers, executive managers, and the list goes on. The odds are reasonable if you know how to present and carry yourself professionally.
And to your own credit, I don't recall you saying anything that would be considered condemning marriage at a young age - and you're entitled to opinion as everyone else is. Flaming isn't necessary though... neither towards you or from you. I don't see it as doing any good for the point anyone's trying to make.
Also.... no one puts bolts in their faces. The very few who do are fairly stupid (I'm not talking people with piercings in general, even facial piercings - I'm talking people who are actually putting pieces of hardware in their body as opposed to jewelry). Most jewelry is made from a material other than alloy steel with a zinc coating. It's just not healthy or safe to put any random piece of metal in your body.
November 18, 2008 at 5:26 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Piercings keep husband of student out of dances
Wow. Not only am I completely amazed at the hypocrisy coming from the school, but somewhat offended at the narrow-mindedness coming from the comments on this article.
It's possible that I'm biased, being that I am a member of the community of "undisciplined, disfigured, stupid" individuals that you feel so bent on insulting.
For reference, I'm married with a child, and hardly live an "alternative lifestyle". I'm not a drug addict, alcoholic, criminal, sexual deviant, white trash, low-life, high school dropout, or so on and so forth. In fact, I happen to have a Bachelor's degree in Network Management, and currently in the process of obtaining my MBA. Oh yeah, and I'm employed by the government. NASA, to be exact. Actually, Lockheed Martin as a civilian subcontractor for NASA, but I'm sure you get the point. And when I'm not working and studying, I'm at home - taking care of my family. Funny, considering that you can't necessarily say that of a majority of the people out there, even ones who aren't "disfigured". What's their excuse?
Yes, I'm pierced, "gauged" (stretched is the correct term), and tattooed. Piercing jewelry is made from all kinds of materials - silicone, pyrex, acrylic, stainless steel, and even your "precious metals and gems". So if you want to get technical, technically it can fall under the realm of the Oxford definition of jewelry, given the material you use.
Modded people are everywhere, ladies and gents. We're lawyers, business professionals, enlisted in the military, IT professionals, and the list goes on. Why is there such a problem? Some people like to buy $800 Louis Vuitton purses, we happen to like adorning our bodies with things that we find aesthetically pleasing. It's not YOUR opinion of how we look that matters, it's OUR opinion of how we look. It's this kind of closed-minded way of thinking that plagues our society on a regular basis. It's just sad, really.
However, as the rules go, technically with the jewelry in, he would be violating school dress code. Graduate or not, the dress code applies to any guest attending a school function. That's common sense, in any situation. However, if taken literally, removing the jewelry should be perfectly acceptable - as the dress code does state that wearing the jewelry is not allowed. He offered an alternative, which involved removing the jewelry to coincide with the rules, to which they replied with another (frankly BS) excuse. There's no more of a health issue of him having a hole in his lip versus letting someone come to school with a cold. I mean, if someone gets hepatitis, is it OK to ban them from school activities in the rare case they might bleed on someone?
November 17, 2008 at 6:28 p.m. permalink suggest removal