Who really knows the truth about their father on here...other than those that were close to him or the family? Just remember what karma is about...what comes around, goes around. Cast your cruel stones and your "opinions" on bits and pieces of information you "hear" spread around. This just shows how the ignorance of human nature really evolves! All of you can trash his name, trash his reputation, but NONE of you for the most part, even knew this man exhisted until he made the paper from a a horrible event. If you think keeping those kids off of the posts here will shelter them from the ignorance of people around, you are sadly mistaken! Take a look at yourselves in the mirror the next time you choose to offer an opinion...I am sure there are things about you that would not be held in such high respects. It's a shame that the human population can show such little compassion for a family...whether they wear blue, or are blood-related...to allow them to have their grieving process without the idiocracy of the community around. Have your opinions...be the experts you think you are....bottom line is...those who knew him, knew someone great...those who now "think" they know him...missed out on knowing a fantstic human being. No one is perfect. We all have our faults! Someday you will have to face the ultimate man upstairs and I am sure will have to answer to come of your cruel expertise!
ps...don't worry about us Robert...we all have broad shoulders and know the truth.... RIP my friend!
Did you know this man personally? Did he "do" anything personally to you for you to belittle him so harshly? Would you want your children to read such harsh public opinion about your loved one who is deceased? I think not! Think about how his children will feel reading the ignorance of others thoughts on it. I have not, nor do I excuse his irrisponsible behavior....but geez....there are friends and family that are still grieving. Can't you just keep your opinion to yourself?? HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING MAN OF THE LAW....AND I GUESS FOR THAT, YOU ARE DOOMED!
Grump..... don't you think that this is a realization that EVERYONE should know better. Just because he was a man of the law, doesn't make him exempt from making a bad decision, and we all have done that, myself included. He paid the ultimate price with his life. Instead of trashing his name because of a bad choice, take it as a learning experience of how precious life truly is and that one decision could take life away. His family is the one that has to hear and read all the ignorant opinions people have. Would you like it if something God-forbid happened to you, and people trashed your good name and bashed you down? I think not. Now his young daughters get to learn about how cruel the community and public can be with their opinions, and see the legacy of THEIR hero, destroyed. Show some discretion and compassion for God's sake!
A little note....there are MANY people that have driven their work vehicles while driving impaired and have not been caught or killed. Again, poor choices made!
well Eric, that is why you are entitled to an opinion and so am I. He was a wonderful and outstanding person. I am sure through the trials and tribulations of your life (assuming you are old enough to have one) you have made poor choices and in fact, have driven under not so great circumstances too. If you say you havent, then you are only fooling yourself. There are no saints out there. Everyone makes mistakes. Thanfully no one else was hurt...it's a sad loss all around. Let it go.
I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion and I certainly don't begrudge that, though ignorance seems to permeate when it comes to this particular subject and how matters are handled in unfortunate situations such as this.
Everyone "assumes" that the tax payers are going to be hit for all the funeral expenses, life insurance, etc. People need to get their facts straight!
First of all, there is tragedy here that yes - a WONDERFUL, OUTSTANDING man of the law had his life lost. Should his loss been put on a pedestal? ABSOLUTELY! For 9 long years this man put his life on the line for you, me, and everyone in the Youngstown area to make our streets safe. He did his call of duty. No one can take that away from him, and it should be rightfully addressed. Was he human? YES! And humans are known to sometimes make poor choices. We face them everyday! Did he make a poor choice with driving that night? Without a doubt, however it was a human error and it happens to ALL of us on a daily basis as major or minor as it may be.
Now - addressing the funeral costs...believe me when I say...the city does not pay for that, in fact, it falls into the responsibility of his widow and her two young children to cope with. Life insurance? Again, there is a widow with 2 children who will receive no benefits from this due to HUMAN error! So to think that the family of the deceased will be sitting on a high pile of money while us Youngstown City taxpayers are burdened with yet more financial demise is just completely foolish! Instead, this poor family is left holding the bag to deal with the loss of a great loved one, and left with the financial responsibility that will follow. So please, when venting about where our tax dollars will be spent on this, educate yourself before shooting at the hip. There are no winners here.
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
I have Eric...and I have learned to forgive for their error...not bash their name.
July 2, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
Who really knows the truth about their father on here...other than those that were close to him or the family? Just remember what karma is about...what comes around, goes around. Cast your cruel stones and your "opinions" on bits and pieces of information you "hear" spread around. This just shows how the ignorance of human nature really evolves! All of you can trash his name, trash his reputation, but NONE of you for the most part, even knew this man exhisted until he made the paper from a a horrible event. If you think keeping those kids off of the posts here will shelter them from the ignorance of people around, you are sadly mistaken! Take a look at yourselves in the mirror the next time you choose to offer an opinion...I am sure there are things about you that would not be held in such high respects. It's a shame that the human population can show such little compassion for a family...whether they wear blue, or are blood-related...to allow them to have their grieving process without the idiocracy of the community around. Have your opinions...be the experts you think you are....bottom line is...those who knew him, knew someone great...those who now "think" they know him...missed out on knowing a fantstic human being. No one is perfect. We all have our faults! Someday you will have to face the ultimate man upstairs and I am sure will have to answer to come of your cruel expertise!
ps...don't worry about us Robert...we all have broad shoulders and know the truth....
RIP my friend!
July 2, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
Did you know this man personally? Did he "do" anything personally to you for you to belittle him so harshly? Would you want your children to read such harsh public opinion about your loved one who is deceased? I think not! Think about how his children will feel reading the ignorance of others thoughts on it. I have not, nor do I excuse his irrisponsible behavior....but geez....there are friends and family that are still grieving. Can't you just keep your opinion to yourself?? HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING MAN OF THE LAW....AND I GUESS FOR THAT, YOU ARE DOOMED!
July 1, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
Grump..... don't you think that this is a realization that EVERYONE should know better. Just because he was a man of the law, doesn't make him exempt from making a bad decision, and we all have done that, myself included. He paid the ultimate price with his life. Instead of trashing his name because of a bad choice, take it as a learning experience of how precious life truly is and that one decision could take life away. His family is the one that has to hear and read all the ignorant opinions people have. Would you like it if something God-forbid happened to you, and people trashed your good name and bashed you down? I think not. Now his young daughters get to learn about how cruel the community and public can be with their opinions, and see the legacy of THEIR hero, destroyed. Show some discretion and compassion for God's sake!
A little note....there are MANY people that have driven their work vehicles while driving impaired and have not been caught or killed. Again, poor choices made!
RIP Robert
July 1, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
well Eric, that is why you are entitled to an opinion and so am I. He was a wonderful and outstanding person. I am sure through the trials and tribulations of your life (assuming you are old enough to have one) you have made poor choices and in fact, have driven under not so great circumstances too. If you say you havent, then you are only fooling yourself. There are no saints out there. Everyone makes mistakes. Thanfully no one else was hurt...it's a sad loss all around. Let it go.
June 30, 2008 at 9:32 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Officer's blood-alcohol level twice legal limit at time of crash
I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion and I certainly don't begrudge that, though ignorance seems to permeate when it comes to this particular subject and how matters are handled in unfortunate situations such as this.
Everyone "assumes" that the tax payers are going to be hit for all the funeral expenses, life insurance, etc. People need to get their facts straight!
First of all, there is tragedy here that yes - a WONDERFUL, OUTSTANDING man of the law had his life lost. Should his loss been put on a pedestal? ABSOLUTELY! For 9 long years this man put his life on the line for you, me, and everyone in the Youngstown area to make our streets safe. He did his call of duty. No one can take that away from him, and it should be rightfully addressed. Was he human? YES! And humans are known to sometimes make poor choices. We face them everyday! Did he make a poor choice with driving that night? Without a doubt, however it was a human error and it happens to ALL of us on a daily basis as major or minor as it may be.
Now - addressing the funeral costs...believe me when I say...the city does not pay for that, in fact, it falls into the responsibility of his widow and her two young children to cope with. Life insurance? Again, there is a widow with 2 children who will receive no benefits from this due to HUMAN error! So to think that the family of the deceased will be sitting on a high pile of money while us Youngstown City taxpayers are burdened with yet more financial demise is just completely foolish! Instead, this poor family is left holding the bag to deal with the loss of a great loved one, and left with the financial responsibility that will follow. So please, when venting about where our tax dollars will be spent on this, educate yourself before shooting at the hip. There are no winners here.
Case closed.
June 30, 2008 at 8:51 p.m. permalink suggest removal