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You are not going to be employed at gm for long if you dont show up.This whole notion that people arent doing work, or are hanging out all day, is disingenuous. This idea, is perpetuated by people who have never seen the inside of gm lordstown.
January 31, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.
@country..I agree. I just think they should be using the tier2 shouldnt touch the car argument. You and i both know, that when you are a temp, you are at the mercy of management. It stinks, but you know that going in. Tier2 people werent supposed to touch the car during the assembly process, senior people werent about to give those jobs up, and now you have this situation.
January 31, 2012 at 11:15 a.m.
These people were hired as SUMMER HELP, not permanent employees. They were hired as temps, got laid-off, then got called back and offered full time permanent positions. During the time they were off, gm (the union agreed) implemented a tier2 wage/benefits category. So when they got called back, for a permanent employment, their wage was lower. They dont have a leg to stand on with this issue. The fight they should make, is with touching the vehicle in the assembly process. Per the contract, all tier2 should be doing off line production, ie, tow motor, sub assembly sweeping, ect. But when the people with 25-30 years(they had these jobs) in heard this, they went ballistic, and said they arent giving up these jobs, and the high ups in the union, sided with the 25-30 year people.
January 31, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
@dave.. I agree. The core issue here seems to be, at least for some, is people who work for gm versus those who dont. If you work at gm, you are middle-class, no matter what fox news tells you. Not one hourly worker at gm is creating generational wealth to pass on for generations. Yet, some of our more naive commenter's, want to buy into this premise. Greed, on the corporate level is destroying our country, not unions, not social security, not medicare, not ui benefits, not wellfare. There is plenty of money to accomplish all these programs. The problem is, the money is being extracted by those at the top of the food-chain (the wealthy). This is easily accomplished by the wealhty because they are allowed to purchase politicians. Campaign finance reform is our only way out.
December 20, 2011 at 10:47 a.m.
December 17, 2011 at 4:57 p.m.
Bottom line, fandflee is owed nothing. As another poster pointed out, bankruptcy is a tool used by companies to screw former employees. So lets vote in politicians who will make it a whole lot more difficult for companies to accomplish this terrible act of destroying peoples lives. The tiny shred of respect i had for fandflee dissolved when this person said he/she is posting his opinion and not FACTS. This is management/salaried employee in a nutshell. Management will screw one another 1000 times quicker than a union worker will screw another union worker. These people cant even be trusted to post FACT. Thats why i tell fandflee to write gwb, he was leader of this country while delphi was being fleeced. I will guarantee alot of money went from upper management at delphi , to campaign contributions for republican politicians. Dont ask Obama, or the uaw for help, ask the politicians you people (management) supported (republicans).
December 15, 2011 at 9:40 a.m.
December 14, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
Nice to see some comments from people with some sense!
December 14, 2011 at 7:50 a.m.
WOW! What a MORON!
December 13, 2011 at 7:13 p.m.
@sobchek..Why doesnt your buddy fandflee, just say one time what you just did. UPPER MANAGEMENT SCREWED HIM/HER, not uaw or obama? You can say what you want about the hourly worker at packard, they werent the issue, anyone that says otherwise is ignorant, or like yourself and has but a brief experience with packard. Walking through during an open-house for 20 minutes, doesnt give you an exact idea of what took place there on a daily basis.
December 13, 2011 at 1:37 p.m.