IN response to ATownparent: You stated the following 'You should do your research instead of just relying on the propaganda that your teachers have been spreading. They really have no business talking about it in the classrooms either. They are there to teach, not to sway a student one way or another with their political opinions." PROOF?? Baseless accusations like this show the true value of the so called community that is ATown. Why anyone would want to teach in this district is beyond me. As if not passing a new levy since 1997 wasn't a loud enough voice, the fact that Ytown and Warren passed levies, boardman passed 4, shows the true sense of community in ATown.
to old man grump, you need to get your facts straight. First off, teachers most recent contract included a 1% raise in the first year, and a wage freeze for the 2nd year. They also agreed to pay more towards their health care. Next, that AVERAGE salary takes into account the people that have been there for 30 years and make way more. The vast majority make much less. I understand that you may decide to vote no, and respect that, just want you to get the facts straight.
A few quick questions to posters on this board. 1.If the district employees came to the public and stated that they would take a wage freeze for a couple of years, would this get the levy to pass?? 2. Has Austitown or any other school ever had community day or days at their schools? It seems that not just the Atown posters have this attitude towards today's educational system. Perhaps if the classrooms were open to the public some sort of way, the citizens could see where their money goes. IMHO, if I am being asked to invest in something, should I not be entitled to see where my money is going?
Interested to see the responses! Thanks and have a good night!
Jolly: First off, any levy that passes any school district in the U.S. goes to wages and benefits. They make up a very large portion of operating costs do they not? In your post you mention each and every classroom doesn't have enough books to do around? I find it very hard to believe that EVERY single classroom at every level has not enough books to go around! Do you have evidence to support this? Have you or do you know a person that has spent extended time in every classroom? One final point, with the horrible education that is occurring district wide, it is amazing that ALSD was one of 6 schools that made Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) across the entire state. It further amazes me that the high school has been rated excellent since the creation of the state report cards! IMAGINE IF THOSE LAZY TEACHERS TAUGHT MORE THAN 25 MINUTES IN A GIVEN DAY. WITH THE 4 PLANNING PERIODS AND ALL THE DITTOS GOING OUT, THE TEACHERS MUST BE AMAZING!!
In Response to Peace2You: Point by point. 1. anti-education types maybe not, but anti-teacher for sure. 2. Quality of education- always can improve, do you not think that you are painting too broad of a generalization, when all teachers are now giving out dittos? What about other factors that cause educational problems, not just placing blame on those lazy, overpaid, uncaring teachers. What was the divorce rate in your year's of school? What was the financial situation of the district? I am not giving teachers a free pass, believe me, but as with any profession you will have great, poor and all parts in between. 3. "the Board, the Supt and all of you? First off who says that I am a teacher? Finally, I can understand the trepidation that taxpayers have in these tough times to give more of their hard earned $ to ANYTHING. However, let's look who really suffers when $ isn't in education? Your Kids!!!! The situation in A-town is fading fast. IMHO there are many teachers, administrators, and citizens to blame, not just one group. If you think that the education in ALSD is bad now, wait when they levy gets voted down again! BUT WAIT, I HAVE THE SOLUTION. LET'S PAY ALL THE TEACHERS LIKE CATHOLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS. I AM SURE THAT OUR DISTRICT WILL BE ABLE TO GET A VERY HIGH QUALITY OF TEACHER. WAIT, I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHY DON'T WE JUST NOT PAY TEACHERS AT ALL?
I respect your privacy when it comes to voting, but judging by your user name, I am pretty sure who you are going to vote for. When the Obamanator wins and raises taxes, I will post on this board "I told you so!!"
Be patient, I am going to respond to multiple users at one time. First, the jackhole that said why not get rid of sports because Fitch hasn't given the community a winner in a long time. Keep in mind that this is HIGH SCHOOL!! Sometimes, its not always about wins and losses! While we're at it, why don't we get rid of all extracurriculars, I am sure that borderline kids would make great decisions with all that extra time! Next, to the best of my knowledge, I think that there has been no new money into the ALSD since 1997! Is it just me, or have the costs to do EVERYTHING gone up largely since that time? Granted, there has been mismanagement in the past with finances, and current administration are NOT from the A-town community. Those damn greedy teachers! If simply going on the posts from this board, it seems that anyone with a logical brain would dream as a young kid to become a teacher. Forget professional athlete, or president, why would you not want to do a job where you don't really have to work and make huge sums of money? As everyone knows, this community has been economically depressed for the better part of 30 years. Now, there are many factors that have continued to cause this, but a phrase that sums it up best is "ignorance is bliss". It seems that some on this board are not anti-teacher, they are anti-education. Most likely, they did not have a very good school experience and blame their former teachers. In what other profession besides teaching no matter what are that you live in could you have 15 years of experience and a masters degree and make only 70K? Lawn mowers and snow plowers make more per year, but those darn greedy lazy teachers. I agree with the poster who said it is the duty of the citizens to financially support schools, in our current backwards way of funding. For all of those people that voted for Strickland, one of his paramount issues was educational finance reform. How is that coming Teddy-boy? He is too busy preparing a potential presidential run in 2012 to care IMHO. Finally, for all of those who are having economic difficulties, I feel for you, and am with you! If you are concerned with higher taxes, be sure to vote for Barack. With the democrat triumvirate controlling things, it will be nice to see the HUGE swell in our taxes to pay for all the deadbeats who are too lazy, unmotivated, or blame others for their personal life situations. But if Barack doesn't win, he can always go back to school, become a teacher, and be rich beyond his wildest dreams!
Posted on November 8 at 5:52 p.m.
IN response to ATownparent: You stated the following
'You should do your research instead of just relying on the propaganda that your teachers have been spreading. They really have no business talking about it in the classrooms either. They are there to teach, not to sway a student one way or another with their political opinions."
PROOF?? Baseless accusations like this show the true value of the so called community that is ATown. Why anyone would want to teach in this district is beyond me. As if not passing a new levy since 1997 wasn't a loud enough voice, the fact that Ytown and Warren passed levies, boardman passed 4, shows the true sense of community in ATown.
Posted on October 27 at 6:49 p.m.
to old man grump, you need to get your facts straight. First off, teachers most recent contract included a 1% raise in the first year, and a wage freeze for the 2nd year. They also agreed to pay more towards their health care.
Next, that AVERAGE salary takes into account the people that have been there for 30 years and make way more. The vast majority make much less. I understand that you may decide to vote no, and respect that, just want you to get the facts straight.
Posted on August 8 at 5:59 p.m.
Very funny Dude!, nobody calls me lebowski
Posted on July 30 at 11:46 p.m.
A few quick questions to posters on this board.
1.If the district employees came to the public and stated that they would take a wage freeze for a couple of years, would this get the levy to pass??
2. Has Austitown or any other school ever had community day or days at their schools? It seems that not just the Atown posters have this attitude towards today's educational system. Perhaps if the classrooms were open to the public some sort of way, the citizens could see where their money goes. IMHO, if I am being asked to invest in something, should I not be entitled to see where my money is going?
Interested to see the responses! Thanks and have a good night!
Posted on July 30 at 11:41 p.m.
Jolly: First off, any levy that passes any school district in the U.S. goes to wages and benefits. They make up a very large portion of operating costs do they not? In your post you mention each and every classroom doesn't have enough books to do around? I find it very hard to believe that EVERY single classroom at every level has not enough books to go around! Do you have evidence to support this? Have you or do you know a person that has spent extended time in every classroom?
One final point, with the horrible education that is occurring district wide, it is amazing that ALSD was one of 6 schools that made Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) across the entire state. It further amazes me that the high school has been rated excellent since the creation of the state report cards! IMAGINE IF THOSE LAZY TEACHERS TAUGHT MORE THAN 25 MINUTES IN A GIVEN DAY. WITH THE 4 PLANNING PERIODS AND ALL THE DITTOS GOING OUT, THE TEACHERS MUST BE AMAZING!!
Posted on July 30 at 6:27 p.m.
In Response to Peace2You:
Point by point.
1. anti-education types maybe not, but anti-teacher for sure.
2. Quality of education- always can improve, do you not think that you are painting too broad of a generalization, when all teachers are now giving out dittos? What about other factors that cause educational problems, not just placing blame on those lazy, overpaid, uncaring teachers. What was the divorce rate in your year's of school? What was the financial situation of the district? I am not giving teachers a free pass, believe me, but as with any profession you will have great, poor and all parts in between.
3. "the Board, the Supt and all of you? First off who says that I am a teacher?
Finally, I can understand the trepidation that taxpayers have in these tough times to give more of their hard earned $ to ANYTHING. However, let's look who really suffers when $ isn't in education? Your Kids!!!!
The situation in A-town is fading fast. IMHO there are many teachers, administrators, and citizens to blame, not just one group. If you think that the education in ALSD is bad now, wait when they levy gets voted down again! BUT WAIT, I HAVE THE SOLUTION. LET'S PAY ALL THE TEACHERS LIKE CATHOLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS. I AM SURE THAT OUR DISTRICT WILL BE ABLE TO GET A VERY HIGH QUALITY OF TEACHER. WAIT, I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHY DON'T WE JUST NOT PAY TEACHERS AT ALL?
I respect your privacy when it comes to voting, but judging by your user name, I am pretty sure who you are going to vote for. When the Obamanator wins and raises taxes, I will post on this board "I told you so!!"
Posted on July 29 at 7:52 p.m.
Be patient, I am going to respond to multiple users at one time. First, the jackhole that said why not get rid of sports because Fitch hasn't given the community a winner in a long time. Keep in mind that this is HIGH SCHOOL!! Sometimes, its not always about wins and losses! While we're at it, why don't we get rid of all extracurriculars, I am sure that borderline kids would make great decisions with all that extra time!
Next, to the best of my knowledge, I think that there has been no new money into the ALSD since 1997! Is it just me, or have the costs to do EVERYTHING gone up largely since that time? Granted, there has been mismanagement in the past with finances, and current administration are NOT from the A-town community.
Those damn greedy teachers! If simply going on the posts from this board, it seems that anyone with a logical brain would dream as a young kid to become a teacher. Forget professional athlete, or president, why would you not want to do a job where you don't really have to work and make huge sums of money?
As everyone knows, this community has been economically depressed for the better part of 30 years. Now, there are many factors that have continued to cause this, but a phrase that sums it up best is "ignorance is bliss". It seems that some on this board are not anti-teacher, they are anti-education. Most likely, they did not have a very good school experience and blame their former teachers. In what other profession besides teaching no matter what are that you live in could you have 15 years of experience and a masters degree and make only 70K? Lawn mowers and snow plowers make more per year, but those darn greedy lazy teachers.
I agree with the poster who said it is the duty of the citizens to financially support schools, in our current backwards way of funding. For all of those people that voted for Strickland, one of his paramount issues was educational finance reform. How is that coming Teddy-boy? He is too busy preparing a potential presidential run in 2012 to care IMHO.
Finally, for all of those who are having economic difficulties, I feel for you, and am with you! If you are concerned with higher taxes, be sure to vote for Barack. With the democrat triumvirate controlling things, it will be nice to see the HUGE swell in our taxes to pay for all the deadbeats who are too lazy, unmotivated, or blame others for their personal life situations.
But if Barack doesn't win, he can always go back to school, become a teacher, and be rich beyond his wildest dreams!