Kent State University out the three you mentioned, Uncommonsense is the only one with an increase. And if you read into any of Kent's press releases they have changed their recruiting practice and increased efforts in marketing and recruiting much like YSU is now starting to do.
All of you who choose to write comments on education related articles and how the budgeting works need to do some research, and possibly take a class in writing.
If you look at national statistics, the number of kids in high schools across the country is down. Not the number or percentage of people graduating from high school but the actual number of individuals in high school is down and is expected to be down for quite some time. This is going to cause a natural decrease in enrollment that everyone who works in higher education anywhere has been aware of.
Ohio State schools are and have been in budget nightmares for years with increased state cuts every year. If you look at The Ohio State University and the article written about them just last week, you will see that they are $2.8 BILLION in debt.
Tuition and fees increase to cover increasing costs, just the same way everything else costs more in life. Have you noticed the increased prices in your groceries over the past couple of years? Same concept.
The "Mansion" that all these millions of dollars were spent on that every idiot who posts comments on this website about was funded through grant money. When an institution receives grant money it needs to be used exactly for the purpose it was received for and NOTHING else. If all of you have something to complain about, go get a degree in higher education administration, 10+ years experience, become a president of a university, and make some change. Now, if that doesn't suit you, go get some advanced degrees, build up your status in the community and get appointed to the board of trustees and become a decision maker. Until then, try to learn something about the process rather than posting comments where any common sense that may have prevailed has been lost.
hmm -- SB140 allows students to take full loads. In fact, an over-achieving 8th grader with the proper test scores and admission could earn a Bachelor's degree while in high school. I myself graduated with an Associate's Degree while going full time during my 11th and 12th grade years. So yes, the programs are pretty much the same and here are the SB140/PSEO rules: http://www.oagc.com/files/PSEOP_Rules...
Second, what YEC does is work with students from the inner-city who are at-risk and allow them to take college classes. If a student is at-risk there are SEVERAL programs out there that can help them with that, Upward Bound being one of them, Boys and Girls Club, their home schools can even help with guidance counselors and sports. Spending money on YEC that could be spent elsewhere in the city, in the schools, at the university even when a program such as SB140 exists and is not going away is frivolous. It might be a great program that has helped several students, but the same goals can be accomplished without the program and the same students can be helped and receive the same education, the same credits, the same marketability and even more if they sought out the information and worked for it.
In the state of Ohio all High School students can take college classes for free at any State funded school under State Senate Bill 140. The Youngstown Early College really is not necessary. If the kids wanted to take the classes outside of this program and were motivated they could do it just by going to see their high school guidance counselor and filling out some forms. So yeah, extra money spent on a program to allow students to take college classes for free when they can already do that because they live in the state of Ohio is a waste of money.
buckeyeinstitute.org lists salaries for all state employees, Rex. It's not a cut in their salary specifically. The employees did not take raises, and are now paying for health care and other benefits that they did not pay for before. So their salaries stayed the same, and now they pay for fringe benefits that they didn't pay for before. This was all public knowledge and published in the newspapers over the course of the last year when it all happened.
That $4 Million everyone keeps talking about that the University should have used elsewhere was from a grant. You don't just get to spend grant money however you want to or please. DO SOME RESEARCH.
Knightcap - YSU has the lowest tuition of any four year state institution in Ohio including fees.
The Cost of books is not determined by the university it's determined by the publishers and students in 2012 are offered several alternatives other than buying them. They can rent, buy, get them out of the library, borrow, etc.
Extra Credit card fees are also pretty standard across the board with almost everywhere now-a-days as well, it's just that some places choose to hide it while others do not. You go out to eat, you're paying an extra fee, and if you're not, your server is paying for it out of their tips for that credit card you used. Things like this are pretty standard practice.
YSU's curriculum is pretty streamlined in the degree process and to remain accredited by a regional accrediting body, which is what makes ANY degree from any reputable institution of higher education worth anything the classes student's are taking, yes, ALL of the classes they are taking are required by someone much higher up the chain than YSU, the State of Ohio, or the Federal Government.
The reason anyone takes longer than 4 years to graduate is because they came in from high school with bad test scores or low grades and had to take remedial courses or because they spent their time in college not focused, not going to class, and doing poorly. That is not the institution's fault - it's the students and shame one anyone who blames a school because someone failed. They chose not to learn and failed on their own. Finding a tutor, a study group, and some hard work and dedication allows anyone to graduate in four years.
Money that is ear-marked for certain things, such as renovations, building additions, etc. cannot be moved into other budgets simply because someone feels like it's necessary. YSU is not the only state university in Ohio that is struggling. They all are. Do some research into how the operation of Higher Education works and make an educated statement rather than spouting out ideas that have no bearing on what is actually happening.
The "Gateway Grant" is a marketing ploy. There are several qualifications and YSU offers the same "Grant" to students who meet the same qualifications. Tuition increase or not, tell the facts, all the facts, and do some research before writing an editorial that has no basis.
If you're going to bring up graduation rates, at least know what averages are on comparable universities. Just bringing them up is useless. 30-40% Graduation rate within 6 years, which is how graduation rates are determined is relatively average for any university in the entire United States that has a similar population to Youngstown State.
Rate increases happen EVERYWHERE in Ohio. They are happening at every major institution and all of them are operating on budget deficits. Miami in Oxford has half built buildings sprawled on their campus because of budget deficits and cuts in state funding. Ohio State, yes, THE Ohio State University has giant holes outside of their residence halls where air conditioning is meant to be installed for their upcoming transition to semesters that is not getting installed because they stopped paying their contractors.
If you have children at YSU, or are an Alumni, whoever or whatever you are, pay close attention to the services that are offered and how even in these difficult economic times with rate increases, YSU remains the lowest per credit hour four year institution in the state and offers pretty seamless services to its students. Whether they take advantage of what is offered or whether they come to the internet to complain is the prerogative, but don't bring in statistics and ideas that are unfounded and irrelevant.
YSU's enrollment decline continues
And information on declining high school population: http://www.voxxi.com/high-school-grad...
February 6, 2013 at 12:41 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YSU's enrollment decline continues
University of Akron Head Counts Fallen Fall 2011 - Fall 2012
http://ir.uakron.edu/docs/enrollment/...
http://ir.uakron.edu/docs/enrollment/...
Ohio State at the Columbus Campus:
Fall 2011: http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?...
Fall 2012: http://www.osu.edu/osutoday/Statistic...
Kent State University out the three you mentioned, Uncommonsense is the only one with an increase. And if you read into any of Kent's press releases they have changed their recruiting practice and increased efforts in marketing and recruiting much like YSU is now starting to do.
http://www.kent.edu/rpie/data/upload/...
http://www.kent.edu/rpie/data/upload/...
Yes, these are facts, and they are very easy to look up.
February 6, 2013 at 12:14 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YSU's enrollment decline continues
All of you who choose to write comments on education related articles and how the budgeting works need to do some research, and possibly take a class in writing.
If you look at national statistics, the number of kids in high schools across the country is down. Not the number or percentage of people graduating from high school but the actual number of individuals in high school is down and is expected to be down for quite some time. This is going to cause a natural decrease in enrollment that everyone who works in higher education anywhere has been aware of.
Ohio State schools are and have been in budget nightmares for years with increased state cuts every year. If you look at The Ohio State University and the article written about them just last week, you will see that they are $2.8 BILLION in debt.
Tuition and fees increase to cover increasing costs, just the same way everything else costs more in life. Have you noticed the increased prices in your groceries over the past couple of years? Same concept.
The "Mansion" that all these millions of dollars were spent on that every idiot who posts comments on this website about was funded through grant money. When an institution receives grant money it needs to be used exactly for the purpose it was received for and NOTHING else. If all of you have something to complain about, go get a degree in higher education administration, 10+ years experience, become a president of a university, and make some change. Now, if that doesn't suit you, go get some advanced degrees, build up your status in the community and get appointed to the board of trustees and become a decision maker. Until then, try to learn something about the process rather than posting comments where any common sense that may have prevailed has been lost.
February 6, 2013 at 8:45 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Early College joined to YSU — again
hmm -- SB140 allows students to take full loads. In fact, an over-achieving 8th grader with the proper test scores and admission could earn a Bachelor's degree while in high school. I myself graduated with an Associate's Degree while going full time during my 11th and 12th grade years. So yes, the programs are pretty much the same and here are the SB140/PSEO rules: http://www.oagc.com/files/PSEOP_Rules...
Second, what YEC does is work with students from the inner-city who are at-risk and allow them to take college classes. If a student is at-risk there are SEVERAL programs out there that can help them with that, Upward Bound being one of them, Boys and Girls Club, their home schools can even help with guidance counselors and sports. Spending money on YEC that could be spent elsewhere in the city, in the schools, at the university even when a program such as SB140 exists and is not going away is frivolous. It might be a great program that has helped several students, but the same goals can be accomplished without the program and the same students can be helped and receive the same education, the same credits, the same marketability and even more if they sought out the information and worked for it.
September 13, 2012 at 4:05 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Early College joined to YSU — again
In the state of Ohio all High School students can take college classes for free at any State funded school under State Senate Bill 140. The Youngstown Early College really is not necessary. If the kids wanted to take the classes outside of this program and were motivated they could do it just by going to see their high school guidance counselor and filling out some forms. So yeah, extra money spent on a program to allow students to take college classes for free when they can already do that because they live in the state of Ohio is a waste of money.
September 13, 2012 at 8:48 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Anderson: YSU is adjusting to ‘the new normal’
buckeyeinstitute.org lists salaries for all state employees, Rex. It's not a cut in their salary specifically. The employees did not take raises, and are now paying for health care and other benefits that they did not pay for before. So their salaries stayed the same, and now they pay for fringe benefits that they didn't pay for before. This was all public knowledge and published in the newspapers over the course of the last year when it all happened.
August 21, 2012 at 9:49 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Anderson: YSU is adjusting to ‘the new normal’
That $4 Million everyone keeps talking about that the University should have used elsewhere was from a grant. You don't just get to spend grant money however you want to or please. DO SOME RESEARCH.
August 21, 2012 at 9:46 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Anderson: YSU is adjusting to ‘the new normal’
Knightcap - YSU has the lowest tuition of any four year state institution in Ohio including fees.
The Cost of books is not determined by the university it's determined by the publishers and students in 2012 are offered several alternatives other than buying them. They can rent, buy, get them out of the library, borrow, etc.
Extra Credit card fees are also pretty standard across the board with almost everywhere now-a-days as well, it's just that some places choose to hide it while others do not. You go out to eat, you're paying an extra fee, and if you're not, your server is paying for it out of their tips for that credit card you used. Things like this are pretty standard practice.
YSU's curriculum is pretty streamlined in the degree process and to remain accredited by a regional accrediting body, which is what makes ANY degree from any reputable institution of higher education worth anything the classes student's are taking, yes, ALL of the classes they are taking are required by someone much higher up the chain than YSU, the State of Ohio, or the Federal Government.
The reason anyone takes longer than 4 years to graduate is because they came in from high school with bad test scores or low grades and had to take remedial courses or because they spent their time in college not focused, not going to class, and doing poorly. That is not the institution's fault - it's the students and shame one anyone who blames a school because someone failed. They chose not to learn and failed on their own. Finding a tutor, a study group, and some hard work and dedication allows anyone to graduate in four years.
Money that is ear-marked for certain things, such as renovations, building additions, etc. cannot be moved into other budgets simply because someone feels like it's necessary. YSU is not the only state university in Ohio that is struggling. They all are. Do some research into how the operation of Higher Education works and make an educated statement rather than spouting out ideas that have no bearing on what is actually happening.
August 21, 2012 at 8:35 a.m. permalink suggest removal
YSU should start planning for fall enrollment decline
The "Gateway Grant" is a marketing ploy. There are several qualifications and YSU offers the same "Grant" to students who meet the same qualifications. Tuition increase or not, tell the facts, all the facts, and do some research before writing an editorial that has no basis.
June 21, 2012 at 12:18 p.m. permalink suggest removal
YSU panel OKs 3.5% tuition increase
If you're going to bring up graduation rates, at least know what averages are on comparable universities. Just bringing them up is useless. 30-40% Graduation rate within 6 years, which is how graduation rates are determined is relatively average for any university in the entire United States that has a similar population to Youngstown State.
Rate increases happen EVERYWHERE in Ohio. They are happening at every major institution and all of them are operating on budget deficits. Miami in Oxford has half built buildings sprawled on their campus because of budget deficits and cuts in state funding. Ohio State, yes, THE Ohio State University has giant holes outside of their residence halls where air conditioning is meant to be installed for their upcoming transition to semesters that is not getting installed because they stopped paying their contractors.
If you have children at YSU, or are an Alumni, whoever or whatever you are, pay close attention to the services that are offered and how even in these difficult economic times with rate increases, YSU remains the lowest per credit hour four year institution in the state and offers pretty seamless services to its students. Whether they take advantage of what is offered or whether they come to the internet to complain is the prerogative, but don't bring in statistics and ideas that are unfounded and irrelevant.
June 6, 2012 at 8:38 a.m. permalink suggest removal