I'm a bit nonplussed. So far there have been a lot of comments full of glaring generalizations about everything except the issues of this article, but there has not yet been an intelligent, well-thought out argument, for or against healthcare reform.
Apparently this community (i.e. proamerican, et al.) is only interested in defending what's been piped through their televisions at them by large corporations with no real interest in the people they pretend to serve. It's no surprise that these people talking at you through the TV have been told what to say because the pharmaceutical lobbyists (the ones with all the money. not us, remember?) paying these media organizations to say what they've been saying so the big companies can keep the dough rolling in. It sounds like people are lacking critical thinking skills, can't think for themselves and are happy to go along with whatever everyone else is because it's easier.
Let me ask you, do any of you even know or understand the underlying ideals or theories of socialism? Do you realize that most of what you encounter each day is socialized? The water department, the fire department, the police, the city school district, the highway system, the state hwy patrol, the internet, the FCC, the National Weather System, must I go on?
If you aren't a very rich person who has everything you would ever need inside a little, self-maintaining compound, there is absolutely no reason you would not want to invest in your own well-being. Seriously, gang. SRSLY.
Again, Vindy. Lame article.
August 19, 2009 at 8:08 p.m.
Ok. FOX News isn't really the news and it's just one of many media outlets owned by one of the world's largest media conglomerates called News Corporation owned by Rupert Murdoch (who isn't even American, but Australian) which also happens to be a publicly-traded company. Guess what - they make more money when they get you to watch their crap...We all get it now, good.
This is all fine and dandy, but does anyone here know of any actual, and I mean real, points to the proposed healthcare reform? Anyone? Just one thing that is to change. Sad...
This is what they want to do (and it doesn't sound so bad to me):
* Make sure insurance companies can’t drop your coverage if you get sick or deny you care because you have a pre-existing condition.* Prevent insurers from charging exorbitant co-pays, putting life-time or annual caps on your coverage, or denying you the opportunity to renew your coverage.* Allow young adults to stay on their family coverage until age 26, make it illegal to charge women more for care, and ensure that companies cover preventative care that saves money in the long run.
August 19, 2009 at 6:04 p.m.
you people crack me up!
August 19, 2009 at 5:22 p.m.
::sniff, sniff:: smell that folks? that's the smell of freedom wafting through your windows. that's right - freedom to bare arms. isn't it awesome??
August 19, 2009 at 5:07 p.m.
make that "CDC" not "EPA"...
August 19, 2009 at 4:30 p.m.
This must go on record as one of the most poorly written Vindicator articles to date because people's comments don't even refer to the implied content...
Ok, where to begin...It's just really sad that such a hard working, blue color town would get duped by the media and are so blindly willing to accept whatever nonsense is being fed to them from the major "News" networks. Really?? Do you lack all reasoning skills?
Folks, you are fighting against something that could be very good for a lot of people and you're still not getting it: if you already have healthcare and you like it - NOTHING WILL CHANGE FOR YOU. If it's tax money you're crazed about - guess what - you are already paying for people without health care when they walk through those ER doors as a last resort. A LAST RESORT, as in, this person would die if they did not seek immediate care. If people had the health care we all deserve, the non-emergency emergency visits would decrease in sight of the preventative care that would be available to them. Oh yeah! The people in jail who have committed a crime because they are mentally ill?? Yep, them too! If they had low or no cost health care and meds available to them, you wouldn't be paying for their jail time. WAKE UP. To live in a good society, it costs money. If you want to have the best healthcare, EVERYONE needs healthcare.
The results of a recent study came out from the EPA saying that the United States' life expectancy has risen a whole year. The Vindy posted a lame AP article with little insight into these findings. But, with a little more research I discovered that America is only ranked #50 in the world for the highest life expectancy. Yikes! That's where we are and claim to have the most expensive health care system? (Canada is 8 and France is 9, by the way)
Vindy, your article, in a word, stinks. Citizens of this valley are cited with comment but who are these people and why should we listen to them? Your commenters have no credibility and you report it as if it were actual fact. Also, you are pitting two diametrically opposed statements towards the same argument: Dr. Allen wants us to "take back America from the Government" but then Mr. Nemenz says that it's lack of government oversight that has caused Wal-Mart to become a monopoly. Huh??
August 19, 2009 at 4:24 p.m.
didn't the Nazi's have something similar?
August 19, 2009 at 3:34 p.m.
OK, Vindy. What's the point of this article? I love that it only gives one tangible fact (life expectancy is at nearly 78 years) and it doesn't bother to put this into any perspective for the reader. What are we supposed to take away from this article, editor? It doesn't mention that the U.S. is the 50th country in the ranking of the world life expectancy and that Canada comes in at 8th place and France just follows at 9th. I wonder if anyone has thought about the corelation between the high quality and broad scope of their healthcare systems and this high ranking life expectancy...
August 19, 2009 at 3:28 p.m.