@SheepleHerder - I am also for energy independence, for our country. But remember, these corporations that invest money to drill for gas and oil are trying to maximize their return on investment. What that means is that any gas and oil that is collected will most likely be sold to the highest bidder - whom is not necessarily located in Ohio, or America for that matter.
That's simple - it's Capitalism. And Capitalism has nothing to do with Patriotism.
I would love to see some real data on who are the purchasers of the oil and gas produced from the Ohio drilling. Is there any way I can get that data?
@Stan and @TheLostpatrol: I am certainly curious as to what your view of an improved Youngstown would resemble? I also would like to know what businesses you would like to see populate the area. This is an honest question, nothing more.
I also live on the southside, and I guess even though I have an electrical engineering degree I should be 'nuked' as well. If everyone leaves, then how do you expect it to get better?
I completely understand that in the urban subculture, a criminal record gets you more respect than an MBA. Stan, I have absolutely no idea how to change those mindsets. I think our only hope is to concentrate on the really young kids and try to influence them before the streets take over.
There is clearly pride in failure in this subculture.
I have heard many comments against celebrating the principles of Kwanzaa because the founder of Kwanzaa has a criminal record. So because the messenger is flawed, does that destroy the meaning on the message?
Umoja (unity) - Do you not want Youngstown to work together to become a greater community? Seems like we're always left out while Cleveland and Pittsburgh continue to flourish. The deal between Girard and Youngstown for possible Steel Mill business is unity in action.
Kujichagulia (self-determination) - This is 'Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps' principle of Kwanzaa!! In order to be of assitance to your family, a group or your community you first must get yourself together. Right out of the Republican playbook and I wholeheartedly agree!
Ujima (collective work and responsibility) - Every neighborhood watch group utilizes this principle, by watching out for each other. Someones current problems could be my future problem so organizing to pool efforts in community safety helps everyone. Beautification projects also reflect this principle, as a good looking neighborhood raises property values.
Ujamaa (cooperative economics) - This is one of the reasons Youngstown has suffered more than most surrounding neighborhoods; we earn money and spend 90% of it outside of the community. This is slowly changing by the patronage we are giving Youngstown establishments such as Rosetta Stone and the Coveli Center. This is a straight bottom up principle, not a get it cheaper at China's west branch (a.k.a. WalMart).
Nia (purpose) - This may be too Socialist for the far right to digest, but the work to instill purpose into the community so they can be a help instead of hinder may help reduce a myriad of crimes and other unproductive behaviors Youngstown is surely plagued with.
Imani (faith) - Stan, I believe you a Christian man, and Youngstown needs your prayers and the prayers of any believer, of any faith, to help guide our decisions for a safe and prosperous community.
I believe you feel that the African American community of Youngstown is mostly to blame for our high crime rate and low economic mobility. I am African American and I mostly agree. The difference is what are you going to do about it? I try to help the at risk group as much as I can.
If a Kwanzaa principle made up from an ex-con gets someone to want to care for their community by abiding the law and taking responsibility - I'M ALL FOR IT!
No, Kwanzaa is not the same as Black History. Black History honors those who have left an indelible mark of pride on all of History.
Kwanzaa is for the community to embrace principles that celebrate current life and embark on new ways to continue to improve life of our fellow man. All races are welcome to celebrate Kwanzaa and Black History too!!!
So the founder happens to be a felon; does that in any way take away the message the Kwanzaa principles reinforce?
To Stan: So are you trying to say that all of African decent are terrorist? I say burn him at the stake, as he would have burned up anyway, but for you to bring that up in a Kwanzaa post strongly implies your prejudice.
Are all caucasians Neo-Nazi or Klan members? I think not, and even if a group of them decided to burn a black church in February, only a fool would brand such cowardice behavior on every caucasian.
Ohio bans injection wells near D&L site in Youngstown
@SheepleHerder - I am also for energy independence, for our country. But remember, these corporations that invest money to drill for gas and oil are trying to maximize their return on investment. What that means is that any gas and oil that is collected will most likely be sold to the highest bidder - whom is not necessarily located in Ohio, or America for that matter.
That's simple - it's Capitalism. And Capitalism has nothing to do with Patriotism.
I would love to see some real data on who are the purchasers of the oil and gas produced from the Ohio drilling. Is there any way I can get that data?
January 2, 2012 at 12:49 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Toasting an undeniable downtown surge
@Stan and @TheLostpatrol: I am certainly curious as to what your view of an improved Youngstown would resemble? I also would like to know what businesses you would like to see populate the area. This is an honest question, nothing more.
August 22, 2011 at 3:19 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Police probe shooting, stabbings in city
To Undisputed330,
I also live on the southside, and I guess even though I have an electrical engineering degree I should be 'nuked' as well. If everyone leaves, then how do you expect it to get better?
November 30, 2010 at 10:50 a.m. permalink suggest removal
All Americans should embrace the principles of Kwanzaa
I completely understand that in the urban subculture, a criminal record gets you more respect than an MBA. Stan, I have absolutely no idea how to change those mindsets. I think our only hope is to concentrate on the really young kids and try to influence them before the streets take over.
There is clearly pride in failure in this subculture.
January 5, 2010 at 5:57 a.m. permalink suggest removal
All Americans should embrace the principles of Kwanzaa
I have heard many comments against celebrating the principles of Kwanzaa because the founder of Kwanzaa has a criminal record. So because the messenger is flawed, does that destroy the meaning on the message?
Umoja (unity) - Do you not want Youngstown to work together to become a greater community? Seems like we're always left out while Cleveland and Pittsburgh continue to flourish. The deal between Girard and Youngstown for possible Steel Mill business is unity in action.
Kujichagulia (self-determination) - This is 'Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps' principle of Kwanzaa!! In order to be of assitance to your family, a group or your community you first must get yourself together. Right out of the Republican playbook and I wholeheartedly agree!
Ujima (collective work and responsibility) - Every neighborhood watch group utilizes this principle, by watching out for each other. Someones current problems could be my future problem so organizing to pool efforts in community safety helps everyone. Beautification projects also reflect this principle, as a good looking neighborhood raises property values.
Ujamaa (cooperative economics) - This is one of the reasons Youngstown has suffered more than most surrounding neighborhoods; we earn money and spend 90% of it outside of the community. This is slowly changing by the patronage we are giving Youngstown establishments such as Rosetta Stone and the Coveli Center. This is a straight bottom up principle, not a get it cheaper at China's west branch (a.k.a. WalMart).
Nia (purpose) - This may be too Socialist for the far right to digest, but the work to instill purpose into the community so they can be a help instead of hinder may help reduce a myriad of crimes and other unproductive behaviors Youngstown is surely plagued with.
Imani (faith) - Stan, I believe you a Christian man, and Youngstown needs your prayers and the prayers of any believer, of any faith, to help guide our decisions for a safe and prosperous community.
I believe you feel that the African American community of Youngstown is mostly to blame for our high crime rate and low economic mobility. I am African American and I mostly agree. The difference is what are you going to do about it? I try to help the at risk group as much as I can.
If a Kwanzaa principle made up from an ex-con gets someone to want to care for their community by abiding the law and taking responsibility - I'M ALL FOR IT!
December 31, 2009 at 8:34 p.m. permalink suggest removal
All Americans should embrace the principles of Kwanzaa
No, Kwanzaa is not the same as Black History. Black History honors those who have left an indelible mark of pride on all of History.
Kwanzaa is for the community to embrace principles that celebrate current life and embark on new ways to continue to improve life of our fellow man. All races are welcome to celebrate Kwanzaa and Black History too!!!
So the founder happens to be a felon; does that in any way take away the message the Kwanzaa principles reinforce?
To Stan: So are you trying to say that all of African decent are terrorist? I say burn him at the stake, as he would have burned up anyway, but for you to bring that up in a Kwanzaa post strongly implies your prejudice.
Are all caucasians Neo-Nazi or Klan members? I think not, and even if a group of them decided to burn a black church in February, only a fool would brand such cowardice behavior on every caucasian.
December 26, 2009 at 7:11 p.m. permalink suggest removal