Well, bellybutton, since you like to point out fallacies, here's one for you. Much of your criticism is based on a contention that any discussion of a Tressel presidency is "hype" and "balderdash." And you ask "where did de Sousa come up with the news that YSU is planning to hire Jim Tressel as president?" The short answer is that de Souza never said YSU is planning to hire Jim Tressel. What he said was: "While Tressel is being touted by individuals in the Valley with strong ties to YSU, trustee Chairman Dr. Sudershan Garg has said the former coach would have to go through the application process like everyone else." You're welcome to believe that no one with any influence has been touting Tressel or that Tressel has not talked to anyone about the possibility. But you'd be wrong, just as you've been consistently wrong in the spelling of Bertram's last name.
I don't often enter these discussions, but when I notice someone just making stuff up ... The Vindicator criticized Strickland more than once for securitization of the tobacco fund. In one of those, June 10, 2007, we even used a phrase, "robbing Peter to pay Paul," which we have used in discussing Kasich's plan for the turnpike.
An honorable person would be happy to be retiring from a job after 25 or 35 years and "wouldn't 'be sick' the last month, two months, six months, whatever time they have accumulated." That's one of the points of the editorial. A person who has access to sick leave shouldn't have to be bribed not to use it unnecessarily as they approach retirement. Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor
I am generally content to let editorials speak for themselves. However, regarding posting 6: The editorial supports the contention by the board of trustees that a freeze for one year and small raises the next two, is still more generous than is sustainable in today's economy and that of the foreseeable future.Pointing this out is not equivalent to "hating" the faculty. As to our "bias" against faculty raises, we are, I suppose, equally guilty of having a bias toward controlling the tuition increases that would be necessary to pay those salaries. Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor.
I'm mystified as to what the student loan default rate for Cincinnati State, a technical and community college about half YSU's size, would have to do with the subject. I doubt you'd want to argue for parity between YSU's salaries and those at CS.
Photoman: An editorial is by definition an opinion piece, and while we often cite facts that have appeared in this paper and other sources to help inform that opinion, the allowable space doesn't always make that possible. But to answer just one of your questions, that regarding the assumption of foreign interest, I'd refer you to this AP story of a few years ago that provides a pretty good overview.
Hlecter: I will take it as a compliment that it is "SO obvious" that we are buying editorials on national and international topics. Every editorial that appears in the paper with the "local" tag (and is picked up on Vindy.com under "how we see it") is written in house. No exceptions. As to "teabaggers," we've routinely edited that to tea partiers in columns and letters to the editor for some time. If one slipped through, I don't know when. Can't speak for newsside, but my impression is that they use it only within a direct quote. And while it has become more recognized as having an objectionable double meaning, clearly it is not in the same league with c-ck-s-ck-rs, otherwise you would have written t--b-gg-rs. Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor
Now I do have an excuse. It's karma. The other day I dropped a note to a columnist who had written about Arizona "succeeding" from the Union. This has been my comeuppance.
Red doesn't begin to describe it. No explanation. No excuses. (I even watched a clip of Springstein singing "Youngstown" while doing research.) Dennis Mangan Editorial page editor
Tressel could lead a Y-juco
Well, bellybutton, since you like to point out fallacies, here's one for you. Much of your criticism is based on a contention that any discussion of a Tressel presidency is "hype" and "balderdash." And you ask "where did de Sousa come up with the news that YSU is planning to hire Jim Tressel as president?"
The short answer is that de Souza never said YSU is planning to hire Jim Tressel. What he said was: "While Tressel is being touted by individuals in the Valley with strong ties to YSU, trustee Chairman Dr. Sudershan Garg has said the former coach would have to go through the application process like everyone else."
You're welcome to believe that no one with any influence has been touting Tressel or that Tressel has not talked to anyone about the possibility. But you'd be wrong, just as you've been consistently wrong in the spelling of Bertram's last name.
January 24, 2013 at 12:06 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Which will Kasich choose: Pay for roads the old-fashioned way, or raid turnpike’s coffers
I don't often enter these discussions, but when I notice someone just making stuff up ... The Vindicator criticized Strickland more than once for securitization of the tobacco fund. In one of those, June 10, 2007, we even used a phrase, "robbing Peter to pay Paul," which we have used in discussing Kasich's plan for the turnpike.
December 6, 2012 at 10:33 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Sick pay is an employee benefit; it shouldn’t become a cash cow
An honorable person would be happy to be retiring from a job after 25 or 35 years and "wouldn't 'be sick' the last month, two months, six months, whatever time they have accumulated." That's one of the points of the editorial. A person who has access to sick leave shouldn't have to be bribed not to use it unnecessarily as they approach retirement. Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor
October 3, 2011 at 12:24 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown State University cannot afford faculty strike
I am generally content to let editorials speak for themselves. However, regarding posting 6: The editorial supports the contention by the board of trustees that a freeze for one year and small raises the next two, is still more generous than is sustainable in today's economy and that of the foreseeable future.Pointing this out is not equivalent to "hating" the faculty. As to our "bias" against faculty raises, we are, I suppose, equally guilty of having a bias toward controlling the tuition increases that would be necessary to pay those salaries. Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor.
August 14, 2011 at 12:03 p.m. permalink suggest removal
A bonus is a bonus at YSU
I'm mystified as to what the student loan default rate for Cincinnati State, a technical and community college about half YSU's size, would have to do with the subject. I doubt you'd want to argue for parity between YSU's salaries and those at CS.
April 15, 2011 at 10:58 a.m. permalink suggest removal
The governor’s turnpike trick
Photoman: An editorial is by definition an opinion piece, and while we often cite facts that have appeared in this paper and other sources to help inform that opinion, the allowable space doesn't always make that possible. But to answer just one of your questions, that regarding the assumption of foreign interest, I'd refer you to this AP story of a few years ago that provides a pretty good overview.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2...
Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor
March 20, 2011 at 12:49 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Time for Gov. Kasich to begin speaking with more specificity
Hlecter: I will take it as a compliment that it is "SO obvious" that we are buying editorials on national and international topics. Every editorial that appears in the paper with the "local" tag (and is picked up on Vindy.com under "how we see it") is written in house. No exceptions.
As to "teabaggers," we've routinely edited that to tea partiers in columns and letters to the editor for some time. If one slipped through, I don't know when. Can't speak for newsside, but my impression is that they use it only within a direct quote. And while it has become more recognized as having an objectionable double meaning, clearly it is not in the same league with c-ck-s-ck-rs, otherwise you would have written t--b-gg-rs.
Dennis Mangan, editorial page editor
March 4, 2011 at 10:10 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Elton John concert provided a test and an opportunity
Now I do have an excuse. It's karma. The other day I dropped a note to a columnist who had written about Arizona "succeeding" from the Union. This has been my comeuppance.
May 4, 2010 at 5:21 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Elton John concert provided a test and an opportunity
Red doesn't begin to describe it. No explanation. No excuses. (I even watched a clip of Springstein singing "Youngstown" while doing research.)
Dennis Mangan
Editorial page editor
May 4, 2010 at 3:59 p.m. permalink suggest removal