Streetsmarts-All but one of your arguments are not worthy to even respond to because points 2,3, and 4 are just foolish...However I will respond to point 1. You are right that the courts are over crowded and here is the reason why.....This summer alone I sat in on several court cases.....What an eye opener all but a couple were violations of probation. Had they have been felonies like they should have been to begin with, they could not have broken the law again as they would have been incarcertated....So if ALL our laws were more strict and the courts would prosecute to the full extent there would be ample time to take on a few more cases.....You obviously have not read Nitro's Law-it would only have added less than half a dozen new felony cases to the court system...You may want to read it so you know what you are arguing against....And one more thing-murder is on the uprise...When we have an over abundance of murder trials on the court dockets and they cant keep up-should we change the murder charge to a misdemeanor rather than a felony....
I am finished discussing this with you-you wont change my mind and I cant change yours...you either are compassionate or you are not.......
Contrary-I have always gotten it! I am not just an animal activitist-I am a rights or justice activitist... I can actually believe and fight for human rights and animal rights as do all the collegues I stand with on Nitro's Law and all the other animal rights groups....I didnt know Ohioans were so "dim" that they either believe in justice for humans or justice for animals.....I believe in justice for all living things that are being tortured and killed and that cant or wont speak out on their behalf.....To be compassionate and to fight for the rights of innocent living things-four legged and two-should have no baring on one such as yourself who loves to be smartmouthed but wont try to learn from others.....someday when we all meet our Maker-the argument will no longer exist.....You either believe or you dont.....You will either do His work or you wont.....I choose to do the "right" thing....I dont care if you like it, support it, understand it, or fight it....Karma is a very powerful thing......So are the Believers! One thing I dont understand-why does it bother you and people like you so much that you become down right ugly towards people like me? We arent the ones hurting anyone...It is our time and our right to fight for what we believe in.....Maybe a long time ago you just gave up on believing......
ulistenup-how very lucky you are to be given the knowledge that the rest of us is not privy to-that of the ageless question of whether animals have souls....I have asked Pastors who have studied the Bible for years, I have asked God himself......and yet you in your wisdom has all the answers?! Amazing.....but the true question is why do you care if there is a felony law in place for first time offenders or not? Maybe because you yourself have no respect for living beings outside of humans (and that is questionable with the lack of respect you have shown towards others with a differing viewpoint than yours). Maybe because you were friends with an abuser or you are one yourself.....I believe there is a place in the world and in Ohio to have a felony abuse for children and for animals....You see, if you believe in a higher power and you believe the bible-than you know He made sure he took care of all-even the sparrow....If he can care humanely for all living beings-than why are we not taking care of what he has put us in charge of? How very pompous of you - a mere human to think you are so much more important than an animal....When noone else can cheer up or bring comfort to people in nursing homes or hospitals- a dog always seems to do the trick....There are so many amazing gifts sent from God -wrapped up in an animals' body-gifts that have taught us animal lovers compassion,, and trust, and love....You have missed out by thinking they are not worth more than to serve us.....But even the homeless waiting to be gassed in our shelters-are worth and should get nothing less than justice when they are abused, tortured and killed......
Nitro’s Law stalls in the Ohio Senate
Streetsmarts-All but one of your arguments are not worthy to even respond to because points 2,3, and 4 are just foolish...However I will respond to point 1. You are right that the courts are over crowded and here is the reason why.....This summer alone I sat in on several court cases.....What an eye opener all but a couple were violations of probation. Had they have been felonies like they should have been to begin with, they could not have broken the law again as they would have been incarcertated....So if ALL our laws were more strict and the courts would prosecute to the full extent there would be ample time to take on a few more cases.....You obviously have not read Nitro's Law-it would only have added less than half a dozen new felony cases to the court system...You may want to read it so you know what you are arguing against....And one more thing-murder is on the uprise...When we have an over abundance of murder trials on the court dockets and they cant keep up-should we change the murder charge to a misdemeanor rather than a felony....
I am finished discussing this with you-you wont change my mind and I cant change yours...you either are compassionate or you are not.......
December 13, 2012 at 4:47 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Nitro’s Law stalls in the Ohio Senate
Contrary-I have always gotten it! I am not just an animal activitist-I am a rights or justice activitist... I can actually believe and fight for human rights and animal rights as do all the collegues I stand with on Nitro's Law and all the other animal rights groups....I didnt know Ohioans were so "dim" that they either believe in justice for humans or justice for animals.....I believe in justice for all living things that are being tortured and killed and that cant or wont speak out on their behalf.....To be compassionate and to fight for the rights of innocent living things-four legged and two-should have no baring on one such as yourself who loves to be smartmouthed but wont try to learn from others.....someday when we all meet our Maker-the argument will no longer exist.....You either believe or you dont.....You will either do His work or you wont.....I choose to do the "right" thing....I dont care if you like it, support it, understand it, or fight it....Karma is a very powerful thing......So are the Believers! One thing I dont understand-why does it bother you and people like you so much that you become down right ugly towards people like me? We arent the ones hurting anyone...It is our time and our right to fight for what we believe in.....Maybe a long time ago you just gave up on believing......
December 13, 2012 at 3:33 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Nitro’s Law stalls in the Ohio Senate
ulistenup-how very lucky you are to be given the knowledge that the rest of us is not privy to-that of the ageless question of whether animals have souls....I have asked Pastors who have studied the Bible for years, I have asked God himself......and yet you in your wisdom has all the answers?! Amazing.....but the true question is why do you care if there is a felony law in place for first time offenders or not? Maybe because you yourself have no respect for living beings outside of humans (and that is questionable with the lack of respect you have shown towards others with a differing viewpoint than yours). Maybe because you were friends with an abuser or you are one yourself.....I believe there is a place in the world and in Ohio to have a felony abuse for children and for animals....You see, if you believe in a higher power and you believe the bible-than you know He made sure he took care of all-even the sparrow....If he can care humanely for all living beings-than why are we not taking care of what he has put us in charge of? How very pompous of you - a mere human to think you are so much more important than an animal....When noone else can cheer up or bring comfort to people in nursing homes or hospitals- a dog always seems to do the trick....There are so many amazing gifts sent from God -wrapped up in an animals' body-gifts that have taught us animal lovers compassion,, and trust, and love....You have missed out by thinking they are not worth more than to serve us.....But even the homeless waiting to be gassed in our shelters-are worth and should get nothing less than justice when they are abused, tortured and killed......
December 13, 2012 at 2:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal