Exposed, you painted the picture perfect...This is what it is all about, downing county workers who can DAMN near claim welfare benefits for their families because they are paid so low get called out to be "unconscionable" but the commissoners can do dirt that is so grimey it is ridicoulous. To give the CSB workers $110,000 for their raise for 115 employees (less than 1% of a 1.75 million levy) or pay out how many hundred thousand to million dollars for the commissoners misjudgments in the oak hill deal, wth??
December 17, 2010 at 11:09 p.m.
Walter,I may agree there are a lot of cushy gov't jobs out there, so you do have the right to be pi$$ed off when you see money wasted. But I wish you truly could see CSB is not one that is wasting the money, and the levy had ABSOLUTELY nothing with giving a raise. The raises were approved nearly 3 years ago, but agreed to a pay freeze due to the economy. CSB has meticulously managed their $ in a frugal manner and cut two top executive positions that afforded not only to give the raises, but also hire a few more people who need jobs. Some people think $32,000 is all that, but our health care keeps going up, everything is going up but our paychecks. We continue to work WAY beyond what we're paid for because we do care about our families. I could see if we were averaging a lot more. We're not like the police who get massive overtime and can get all these side job. All we have is our $32,000 with no hope of a raise thanks to the biased media who are trying to turn this into something that it never was. And if anyone thinks you can go out and hire just anyone to do our job and pay them less, you are sadly mistaken.
December 17, 2010 at 8:13 p.m.
but are being paid nearly that median $26,000...
December 5, 2010 at 4:50 p.m.
Mahoning County Children Services has done alot to make cuts in their budget that even afforded them to create more positions for people that need jobs. Very similar. So again, when MRDD got their raise recently why was there not multiple front page articles about that? All I see here is a nice article which is well deserved. Why can't MCCSB get the same?
December 5, 2010 at 10:37 a.m.
There are thousands of more kids like this. Happens every day. They just don't always get caught. Until people understand and become committed to raising their children right, and when I say that I mean lead by example, there will continue to be more and more dysfunction and crime coming at younger and younger ages.
December 4, 2010 at 2:58 p.m.
whoever earlier was talking about firefighters, they have a hard job to do. God bless these public employees.
social workers too have the same dilemna. if the Sh*T hits the fan at 3am on one of my cases, I have to roll out the bed and leave my own children behind and go out and afress the situation..
December 4, 2010 at 3:29 a.m.
falcon eddy. you are honestly making me feel better here. i think that overwhelmingly most people posting on here are bitter, clueless, and just feel like they are speaking for the whole when they are the minority. most voters are not even posing on here b/c they have better things to do. they know what's up and will continue to support thier public employees. csb workers w/ a county credit card?? omg that is freakin hilarious and just further proving csb workers that they are justified in their raises that was promised years ago. seriously, i beg of you to research this topic before you post...
December 4, 2010 at 3:18 a.m.
okay censordship, I like some of your posts, I think we can agree there needs to be cuts in gov't handouts, I'm for drug testing welfare recipients, and there is a whole popluation of people that are unemployable and always will be. But you and me are NOT going to agree on this. Did you not hear me say 32K plus support = $40000 per year. She gets close to $700 per month in child support, might not be much to you, but at least he works and pays something. And your gross calculations are a little off. $40000 per year is $3333 per month so after taxes she brings in roughly $2850 per month. So $1000 to daycare $525 for mortgage, insurance, and taxes (a safe, but far from extravagent neighborhood), about $190 for gas and electric, $75 for water, $50 for phone,$400 for food, $175 for gas in the car, $150 car pymt for a very modest, reliable car(she has to drive all over the county), car insurance $65. Okay so we're already at $2630 of $2850 budget and haven't so much as bought a stitch of clothing,bought so much as a cleaning product, paid for a school sporting event, oh yeah we have to pay for school lunches too, put anything away for college, or be able to save for an unexpected expense . Nor have we paid for co-pays, necessary prescriptions when the kids are sick, paid for life insurance, or even thought about saving for a rainy day. Not so much of even thought of buying a christmas gift for our children while others are out collecting from multiple churches and the Salvation Army. Yes these are the realities of life and we deal with them every day. The point I'm trying to make is those that work the hardest are barely surviving above those who are getting the handouts.And no, not everyone has family to help. Some of our older middle class families are still working because they haven't been able to save for us. It's obvious you are at the top of the food chain or something and couldn't care less.
December 3, 2010 at 12:39 a.m.
I will take this welfare/unemployment discussion a step further. I have a co-worker at my job who is divorced because her husband wasn't about the right things and she was left with an infant and toddler to raise on her own. But because she is a single, educated parent the gov't feels she's got it made. And with child support and her 32K job that comes out to about 40K a year she is expected to pay a daycare bill for two children that comes out to over $1000 per month? Not to mention student loans to the tune of $200 per month b/c she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth, but didnt' want to rely on the gov't? Why is no one crying outrage over that? Nearly half of her money is supposed to go to daycare to keep a job because she's not "sponging the system" before she even thinks about paying the mortgage, buying food and diapers, or putting gas in her car? And yes she is a CSB worker and some people aparently think we have it made (sorry had to get it in there this is OUR realities) but I have little sympathy for those who fall on this umemployment crutch. At least those working the lower paying jobs can still get their child care paid for so it clearly evens out. I know I work my behind off all day well into many nights, but even if I didn't have my job, I would work at Mickey D's by day and clean hotels at night if I had to because that's what I was taught. At least my kids would learn you don't get by on a handout.
December 2, 2010 at 10:44 p.m.
There needs to be more stringent guidelines to getting your unemployment extended, you can't just call in or log in once a week and SAY you looked for a job with no real verification. And other things should be taken into consideration, for example, are you a homeowner? Are you losing your home to foreclosure which would further hurt the economy? These are the EXCEPTIONS and not the RULE. What the rule is: A large percentage (not all) people on unemployment could get jobs if they really wanted to work. They might have to piece together two so-so jobs to make a good living, but you do what you gotta do and stop expecting a handout. See the times of times of having these great jobs with little to no education are gone.Some of these people with little to no qualifications think some great job is just supposed to fall from the sky. The gov't needs to be very careful here. Just like with the welfare system. Was created with great intentions, but now we have a whole population of people who feel it's NORMAL to get paid on the first of the month and fill their cupboards with foodstamps. It's not even the younger generations fault, they are just following suit of what they've observed. If the gov't isn't careful and put some limits on this unemployment, there is going to be a whole new wave of people with think it's just normal to get a gov't check. My ex-husband is the perfect example. Since 1989 I never knew him not to have a job. Fought in Desert Storm and was always hardworking. He got laid off and stayed on unemployment for 18 months. We were going through a divorce so his former employers would call me to call him back and he would say, they aren't paying enough and continue to collect. I can only imagaine what these people with lesser work ethics do.
December 2, 2010 at 7:24 p.m.