Yes, parents should, but far too many are not computer-savvy enough to be credible to their kids, some have no idea at all, and others just don't care. Either way, it doesn't do those kids any good if we, as a society, say, "Well, if your parents didn't teach you, then too bad." I think those of us in positions to teach and influence kids have a responsibility to do so, especially if it's to their long-term benefit. Technically, parents can teach kids how to read and add, so why do we bother with school? Because there are trained individuals who can produce better results, and this is a good example of that.
Hold on. This is specific to one nursing home. The majority in this area are wonderful places to live and visit. (if you don't believe me, try volunteering at one).
Seriously, Walter? Wow, that's some kind of scary logic. Thankfully, you are not the Supreme Arbitor of who is worthy of acceptance and approval. You are not the final word on whether something is derogatroy, and in our society, it's typically the victims who get to decide what is offensive, since, you know, they are the targets of prejudice and harassment. they are the ones who suffer because of people like you. And yes, by any definition, the term you used IS offensive. Claim your bigotry proudly, man! Why would someone who hate gays as much as you obviously use anything but the most demeaning and insulting terms?
You have absolutely no reasonable expectation in our society of ensuring you are isolated from people you don't like. They have as much right to live, works, play, and exist in our society as you do. I suggest you look to Iran or Saudia Arabia for the kinds of laws and customs you apparently support.
Wow, I did realize raising boys to be moral, upstanding citizens included using derogatory terms like "rug-muncher" to insult people who are different from you. Have you also schooled you sons in all the nastiest racist and sexist terms they'll need to know to be upstanding, well-rounded bigots? If that's the kind of leaders the Boys Scouts are attracting these days, they have bigger problems than a few gay leaders.
While you might lump gays in with felons, drug dealers, and drunks, I'd be far far more concerned with any parent or Scout leader telling my son that a person is wrong or immoral based on who they love. Hatred, discrimination, and exclusion based on difference is as immoral as it gets. Excluding gays now is every bit as wrong as prohibiting black Scouts was 60 years ago. Your grandkids will be embarrassed for you.
Every other graduation story that has been published has been full of comments congratulating the graduates on their achievement, but the story about a Youngstown school is followed by comments already condemning these students before the ink is dry on their diploma. That kind of prejudice is indefensible, and if these kids come up against discrimination in their lives, it's because people like those on this board judge them based on where they went to school or the color of their skin instead of on their achievement and potential. And THAT"S what's wrong with this city and this country.
CONGRATULATIONS Chaney Class of 2012! You worked hard, and you earned your day on the front-page.
As a higher ed instructor, this is not news to me. I've been teaching remedial English for a decade, and the problem has only gotten worse from every regional district. But the causes are up for debate, and there is no one "fix-all." The emphasis on standardized tests takes time away from reading, writing, and critical thinking, and public schools and state are only preparing students for the minimum standards for graduation, not college.
Also, as a society, we can't tell people they are not college material, and then only offer them $10 an hour jobs with no health insurance or sick leave, and blame them and call them lazy when their work ethic crumbles. I agree some people would be better suited to trades and labor jobs, but the sad fact is, manufacturing and industry jobs don't pay a living wage, and until they do, college will be the only way most people in our society can achieve some level of stability and autonomy in their professions. The alternative is to say those who aren't meant for college also aren't meant for home ownership, a family, health insurance, vacation time, or many of the other benefits and privileges those of us with college degrees take for granted. While I have no doubt many people believe exactly that, I'd personally rather keep teaching remedial classes and help these people who've been predisposed since birth to fail academically, to better themselves through education.
Do people have any idea what's involved in getting a Ph.D.? They don't get the title "doctor" for nothing. It's 8-12 years of school, the same as any MD or DO, and many faculty in engineering, law, business, and many, many other fields actually take a pay cut by teaching at a university as opposed to the private sector.
I don't understand this bitter race to the bottom. Why are people so happy to believe the lowest bidder is the best choice?. It's about quality, especially when we're talking about a college education. And if you don't think YSU has quality faculty, do some research.
I think some one needs to go to anger management class. My guess is "unions" is a college drop out who blames their inability to get a real job on the left wing "pseudo-intellectuals" that just didn't understand him.
That is a great idea. Let's replace our college professors with less costly replacements. I mean no one really wants to be taught by PhDs or anything. Heck, why don't you teach "intro to not knowing what you are talking about" it sounds like you are well suited.
And what part of most of these college students were babies and children when their parents brought them here don't you understand? This is the only home they've known, and I'm not cold and heartless enough to dismiss that very integral fact. Yes, I knowingly and willfully would rather they pursue an affordable education while pursuing citizenship, than be dumped across the border in a country they have no connection to, or worse, be subjected to threats and intimidation for the rest of their lives by employers and landlords out to exploit their illegal status.
Professors say there is no privacy on social media web sites
Yes, parents should, but far too many are not computer-savvy enough to be credible to their kids, some have no idea at all, and others just don't care. Either way, it doesn't do those kids any good if we, as a society, say, "Well, if your parents didn't teach you, then too bad." I think those of us in positions to teach and influence kids have a responsibility to do so, especially if it's to their long-term benefit. Technically, parents can teach kids how to read and add, so why do we bother with school? Because there are trained individuals who can produce better results, and this is a good example of that.
January 20, 2013 at 11:48 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Death leads to scrutiny of Grace Woods senior facility
Hold on. This is specific to one nursing home. The majority in this area are wonderful places to live and visit. (if you don't believe me, try volunteering at one).
June 8, 2012 at 8:06 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Scouts to review resolution to allow gay troop leaders
Seriously, Walter? Wow, that's some kind of scary logic. Thankfully, you are not the Supreme Arbitor of who is worthy of acceptance and approval. You are not the final word on whether something is derogatroy, and in our society, it's typically the victims who get to decide what is offensive, since, you know, they are the targets of prejudice and harassment. they are the ones who suffer because of people like you. And yes, by any definition, the term you used IS offensive. Claim your bigotry proudly, man! Why would someone who hate gays as much as you obviously use anything but the most demeaning and insulting terms?
You have absolutely no reasonable expectation in our society of ensuring you are isolated from people you don't like. They have as much right to live, works, play, and exist in our society as you do. I suggest you look to Iran or Saudia Arabia for the kinds of laws and customs you apparently support.
June 7, 2012 at 10:27 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Scouts to review resolution to allow gay troop leaders
Wow, I did realize raising boys to be moral, upstanding citizens included using derogatory terms like "rug-muncher" to insult people who are different from you. Have you also schooled you sons in all the nastiest racist and sexist terms they'll need to know to be upstanding, well-rounded bigots? If that's the kind of leaders the Boys Scouts are attracting these days, they have bigger problems than a few gay leaders.
While you might lump gays in with felons, drug dealers, and drunks, I'd be far far more concerned with any parent or Scout leader telling my son that a person is wrong or immoral based on who they love. Hatred, discrimination, and exclusion based on difference is as immoral as it gets. Excluding gays now is every bit as wrong as prohibiting black Scouts was 60 years ago. Your grandkids will be embarrassed for you.
June 7, 2012 at 11:19 a.m. permalink suggest removal
‘End of an era’
Every other graduation story that has been published has been full of comments congratulating the graduates on their achievement, but the story about a Youngstown school is followed by comments already condemning these students before the ink is dry on their diploma. That kind of prejudice is indefensible, and if these kids come up against discrimination in their lives, it's because people like those on this board judge them based on where they went to school or the color of their skin instead of on their achievement and potential. And THAT"S what's wrong with this city and this country.
CONGRATULATIONS Chaney Class of 2012! You worked hard, and you earned your day on the front-page.
June 2, 2012 at 3:23 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown high school grads are not prepared for higher ed
As a higher ed instructor, this is not news to me. I've been teaching remedial English for a decade, and the problem has only gotten worse from every regional district. But the causes are up for debate, and there is no one "fix-all." The emphasis on standardized tests takes time away from reading, writing, and critical thinking, and public schools and state are only preparing students for the minimum standards for graduation, not college.
Also, as a society, we can't tell people they are not college material, and then only offer them $10 an hour jobs with no health insurance or sick leave, and blame them and call them lazy when their work ethic crumbles. I agree some people would be better suited to trades and labor jobs, but the sad fact is, manufacturing and industry jobs don't pay a living wage, and until they do, college will be the only way most people in our society can achieve some level of stability and autonomy in their professions. The alternative is to say those who aren't meant for college also aren't meant for home ownership, a family, health insurance, vacation time, or many of the other benefits and privileges those of us with college degrees take for granted. While I have no doubt many people believe exactly that, I'd personally rather keep teaching remedial classes and help these people who've been predisposed since birth to fail academically, to better themselves through education.
March 7, 2012 at 5:31 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Faculty union says YSU’s reference to small schools isn’t fair comparison
Do people have any idea what's involved in getting a Ph.D.? They don't get the title "doctor" for nothing. It's 8-12 years of school, the same as any MD or DO, and many faculty in engineering, law, business, and many, many other fields actually take a pay cut by teaching at a university as opposed to the private sector.
I don't understand this bitter race to the bottom. Why are people so happy to believe the lowest bidder is the best choice?. It's about quality, especially when we're talking about a college education. And if you don't think YSU has quality faculty, do some research.
September 9, 2011 at 5:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Union says it has YSU’s final, best offer
I think some one needs to go to anger management class. My guess is "unions" is a college drop out who blames their inability to get a real job on the left wing "pseudo-intellectuals" that just didn't understand him.
August 25, 2011 at 8:54 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Union says it has YSU’s final, best offer
@unionshateamerica
That is a great idea. Let's replace our college professors with less costly replacements. I mean no one really wants to be taught by PhDs or anything. Heck, why don't you teach "intro to not knowing what you are talking about" it sounds like you are well suited.
August 24, 2011 at 8:50 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Illegal immigrant in-state tuition begins in Conn.
And what part of most of these college students were babies and children when their parents brought them here don't you understand? This is the only home they've known, and I'm not cold and heartless enough to dismiss that very integral fact. Yes, I knowingly and willfully would rather they pursue an affordable education while pursuing citizenship, than be dumped across the border in a country they have no connection to, or worse, be subjected to threats and intimidation for the rest of their lives by employers and landlords out to exploit their illegal status.
July 9, 2011 at 3 p.m. permalink suggest removal