Man NUNSENSE (new name by the way.) You take 10 minutes to answer what 2 minutes whould accomplish. Again, the people you hold in such conetmpt are innocent. This because in this great system you are until the state shows otherwise unless you feel Bertram and the Vindy staff are in charge of it all God help us. I will agree that the majority of the citizens of this Valley display conservative ideals that rarely suit a Democratic role (at least I think that's what you mean). But you wrongly accuse me of supporting corruption, for I do not. I will argue that the truest from of corruption is the condemning of indiviuals who stand accused prior to a finding of guilt. I actually applaud that you have used the term"your exposure" for it shows class and the denial of omniptance you often claim to possess. I finally want to make clear, as you have agreed, that Tablack has lived on the public breast in this state and others, for as long as he's had a social security card. He really doesn't need one though because he's never had to pay into it. You and I have paid for his obstructionist role in our County government and he is simply not a nice person. With all the people you "hear" things from and are "exposed" to, ask as to whether or not he has had to flee the building in which he worked to avoid beinfg mangled by the husbands of those he has spoken to like garbage --that my NUNSENSE is a well- known fact. You see sir or madam there's nothing wrong with being smart and tolerable as well. But again we agree, corruption in office is all too common with our gang downtown, However, like Michael Corleone said 'We are all a part of the same hypocrisy". Dont think that only one commissioner is bad, one Administrator is good, to have the type of wrangling we witness takes a band of lamos. However, you misuse the term irrefutably because the WASTEHILL ( and seriously Nunsense it was a bad move-Garland was bad I agree but WASTEHILL was the worst option for taxpayers like ourselves-its just too darn expensive) defendants are innocent until proven guilty. Please promise if they are acquiited to acknowledge that youprayed for their condemnation despite facts to support it. Hope your never on a jury man, youd cook people from the moment of accusation. Finally, and I hate that we seem to ever assist you, your Sheenisms are failing..it's TROLL not mole. Sleep well, you really do enteratin me with... well whatever the language you use is. NOW I TOO AM GUILTY OF RAMBLING, I apologoze.
Carlstaatz? How much did the county expend thus far on WASTEHILL? Everyone agrees we should have left Garland. Did you know that architectually WASTEHILL will soon exhibit very serious and expensive revovations related to the foundation? Did you know it was a miracle that no one was injured when the near century old smoke stack collapsed? Do you know the monthly cost of utilities? Do you have any idea how much the county has spent on heating and cooling renovations. Did you know that our facilities line item exploded due to the purchase of this wreck? If it was such a wonderful facility why did it do so poorly as Renaisance Place? Do you know what we now owe in back taxes which Traficanti and Georgie Boy promised we would not? Again, everyone agrees, again, no one is arguing FOR Garland- who are you fighting with? You don' t really believe that the WASTEHILL was the best choice when we could have BUILT a new government center cheaper?
NUNYA for your review: Let me just put one question out there. If you had the greatest player alive on your team, would you keep him if he made life miserable for everyone on the team; subordinates, colleagues and bossess? That is what George did. He arrogantly felt that he was a commissioner and not an employee. It is no wonder he felt this way, beacuse 2 of the 3 commissioners (his bosses) gave him carte blance authority. Do you REALLY believe he wasn't a lifelong public trough feeder who double dipped pesnion payments while being grossly overpaid by a County in fiscal crisis? You speak of his genius, but refute the fact that anyone with a lick of sense sees the horrendous burden Oakhill is on the taxpayers. Again, the kool-aid this side of the political peeing match has forced you to swallow must be pretty darn powerful, for it precludes any insight and common sense. I acknowledge that our officials have let us down, but you REALLY dont believe when you examine the facts that this guy helped do you? Please I keep begging people. Public records are there for us all to review. Do so, then decide. You're right abour floating bonds though, millions of dollars worth have been "floated" to pay for that $75, 000.00 building. Doesn't add up does it?
Nunya is Tablack a trough feeder? Simple Question, yes or no.
NUNYA You have just proved that you know nothing about anything and therefore do not require being listened to. "Where I've heard George Tablack, is quirky but I've not ever heard that he's impossible to work with" WHAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT? Everybody knows this guy is a miserable narcissist. Nunya you are clueless basing your allegaince on what Bertram says and have no idea what you are talking about. The above poster is right, he lasted about 2 minutes in FLA. when they decided that they would not eat that sh--. Then in one of the most corrupt and underhanded moves in Mahoning County Political History, 2 of the 3 Commissioners hired him at a ridiculous rate of pay without even notifying the third Commissioner. Talk about transparency. Hey everybody Nunya thinks Tablack was easy to work with! Yah, he was a real gem of a guy. And why Nunya do you do that third grade move where when someone insults one public official, you insult like 5 more. You don't defend the statement you just say "oh yah, well there are other's that are worse. No one is defending any corruption here. What you have done is shown that there are SIDES in Mahoning County politics and when one shows allegiance to a side they become blind to the wrongdoing of that side. What Antonini and the like have done is wrong, but because they were wrong it doesn't justify the stupidity of others.
Nicely, Nicely done. I am so proud of you that I'll refer to you as Stan. Now if they are acquitted, will that have been a waste of money due to a political witch hunt? Seeing how Tablack has been so accurate with the WASTEHILL costs, I question that number as low actually. Now apply yourself. Show me the numbers that support purchasing, renovating, and paying the million dollar taxbill on WASTEHILL. I mean if you can...I believe that once you start adding your mind will change. Again Stan, WE ALL AGREE that Garland was bad. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO please just the facts ma'am. Very poud of you Stan, you just remember you keep arguing against the Cafaros when no one is arguing for them.
I can assure you, and this is truly depressing, public records and your precious Feds have only been able to find a fraction dispersed by the Cafao's in comparison to gross mismanagement and waste Traficanti, Ludt and Tablack spewed out in the purchase of Wastehill. They sold the security of Mahoning County for their own egos and its cost us far more than any Caforo bribe. They lied to you, me and the rest of the citizens as badly as anyone whose confessed to the public. Remember Wastehill was only supposed to cost 75, 000.00. In the millions now and the hits just keep on coming. Slammin Stan wouldn't you like to be wise about something ./...Anything? SLAMOLA, SLAMALAMADINGDONG!
Hey Nunya, whatever prose that is, and I continue to cite the influence of such great writers as Sheen and Manson, I am sure someone with an appropriate dose of LSD could maybe then decipher that and then only maybe. The problem isn't that the honest information is available, its just your dismay about the fact that it shows how wrong you are. Debate the issues with facts Nunya, I would expect better from someone as hysterical as you. You and Stan use provocative tabloid language and continue to be curious as to why the paparazzi club you belong to ends up only talking about what you do not know.
Slammin Stan you would think a man as important as you would be busy, like with a JOB or something. Finally you agree to use some numbers in your argument for Oakhill! What with your highly sophisticated and worldly means of gathering information. You should be able to get one accurate cost figure on what WASTEHILL has been so far, c'mon Slammin Stan just one # from public records. A guy as "hooked in" as you should be able to do that. Hey Slammin Stan...SLAM!SLAM!SLAM!
Firing of Tablack is an example of retribution for a job well done
Man NUNSENSE (new name by the way.) You take 10 minutes to answer what 2 minutes whould accomplish. Again, the people you hold in such conetmpt are innocent. This because in this great system you are until the state shows otherwise unless you feel Bertram and the Vindy staff are in charge of it all God help us. I will agree that the majority of the citizens of this Valley display conservative ideals that rarely suit a Democratic role (at least I think that's what you mean). But you wrongly accuse me of supporting corruption, for I do not. I will argue that the truest from of corruption is the condemning of indiviuals who stand accused prior to a finding of guilt. I actually applaud that you have used the term"your exposure" for it shows class and the denial of omniptance you often claim to possess. I finally want to make clear, as you have agreed, that Tablack has lived on the public breast in this state and others, for as long as he's had a social security card. He really doesn't need one though because he's never had to pay into it. You and I have paid for his obstructionist role in our County government and he is simply not a nice person. With all the people you "hear" things from and are "exposed" to, ask as to whether or not he has had to flee the building in which he worked to avoid beinfg mangled by the husbands of those he has spoken to like garbage --that my NUNSENSE is a well- known fact. You see sir or madam there's nothing wrong with being smart and tolerable as well. But again we agree, corruption in office is all too common with our gang downtown, However, like Michael Corleone said 'We are all a part of the same hypocrisy". Dont think that only one commissioner is bad, one Administrator is good, to have the type of wrangling we witness takes a band of lamos. However, you misuse the term irrefutably because the WASTEHILL ( and seriously Nunsense it was a bad move-Garland was bad I agree but WASTEHILL was the worst option for taxpayers like ourselves-its just too darn expensive) defendants are innocent until proven guilty. Please promise if they are acquiited to acknowledge that youprayed for their condemnation despite facts to support it. Hope your never on a jury man, youd cook people from the moment of accusation. Finally, and I hate that we seem to ever assist you, your Sheenisms are failing..it's TROLL not mole. Sleep well, you really do enteratin me with... well whatever the language you use is. NOW I TOO AM GUILTY OF RAMBLING, I apologoze.
May 30, 2011 at 2:18 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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Carlstaatz?
How much did the county expend thus far on WASTEHILL?
Everyone agrees we should have left Garland.
Did you know that architectually WASTEHILL will soon exhibit very serious and expensive revovations related to the foundation? Did you know it was a miracle that no one was injured when the near century old smoke stack collapsed? Do you know the monthly cost of utilities? Do you have any idea how much the county has spent on heating and cooling renovations. Did you know that our facilities line item exploded due to the purchase of this wreck? If it was such a wonderful facility why did it do so poorly as Renaisance Place? Do you know what we now owe in back taxes which Traficanti and Georgie Boy promised we would not? Again, everyone agrees, again, no one is arguing FOR Garland- who are you fighting with? You don' t really believe that the WASTEHILL was the best choice when we could have BUILT a new government center cheaper?
May 27, 2011 at 9:36 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing of Tablack is an example of retribution for a job well done
NUNYA for your review:
Let me just put one question out there. If you had the greatest player alive on your team, would you keep him if he made life miserable for everyone on the team; subordinates, colleagues and bossess? That is what George did. He arrogantly felt that he was a commissioner and not an employee. It is no wonder he felt this way, beacuse 2 of the 3 commissioners (his bosses) gave him carte blance authority. Do you REALLY believe he wasn't a lifelong public trough feeder who double dipped pesnion payments while being grossly overpaid by a County in fiscal crisis? You speak of his genius, but refute the fact that anyone with a lick of sense sees the horrendous burden Oakhill is on the taxpayers. Again, the kool-aid this side of the political peeing match has forced you to swallow must be pretty darn powerful, for it precludes any insight and common sense. I acknowledge that our officials have let us down, but you REALLY dont believe when you examine the facts that this guy helped do you? Please I keep begging people. Public records are there for us all to review. Do so, then decide. You're right abour floating bonds though, millions of dollars worth have been "floated" to pay for that $75, 000.00 building. Doesn't add up does it?
Nunya is Tablack a trough feeder? Simple Question, yes or no.
May 27, 2011 at 8:34 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Firing of Tablack is an example of retribution for a job well done
NUNYA You have just proved that you know nothing about anything and therefore do not require being listened to. "Where I've heard George Tablack, is quirky but I've not ever heard that he's impossible to work with" WHAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT? Everybody knows this guy is a miserable narcissist. Nunya you are clueless basing your allegaince on what Bertram says and have no idea what you are talking about. The above poster is right, he lasted about 2 minutes in FLA. when they decided that they would not eat that sh--. Then in one of the most corrupt and underhanded moves in Mahoning County Political History, 2 of the 3 Commissioners hired him at a ridiculous rate of pay without even notifying the third Commissioner. Talk about transparency. Hey everybody Nunya thinks Tablack was easy to work with! Yah, he was a real gem of a guy. And why Nunya do you do that third grade move where when someone insults one public official, you insult like 5 more. You don't defend the statement you just say "oh yah, well there are other's that are worse. No one is defending any corruption here. What you have done is shown that there are SIDES in Mahoning County politics and when one shows allegiance to a side they become blind to the wrongdoing of that side. What Antonini and the like have done is wrong, but because they were wrong it doesn't justify the stupidity of others.
May 27, 2011 at 8:31 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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Nicely, Nicely done. I am so proud of you that I'll refer to you as Stan. Now if they are acquitted, will that have been a waste of money due to a political witch hunt? Seeing how Tablack has been so accurate with the WASTEHILL costs, I question that number as low actually. Now apply yourself. Show me the numbers that support purchasing, renovating, and paying the million dollar taxbill on WASTEHILL. I mean if you can...I believe that once you start adding your mind will change. Again Stan, WE ALL AGREE that Garland was bad. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO please just the facts ma'am. Very poud of you Stan, you just remember you keep arguing against the Cafaros when no one is arguing for them.
May 27, 2011 at 8:13 a.m. permalink suggest removal
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I can assure you, and this is truly depressing, public records and your precious Feds have only been able to find a fraction dispersed by the Cafao's in comparison to gross mismanagement and waste Traficanti, Ludt and Tablack spewed out in the purchase of Wastehill. They sold the security of Mahoning County for their own egos and its cost us far more than any Caforo bribe. They lied to you, me and the rest of the citizens as badly as anyone whose confessed to the public. Remember Wastehill was only supposed to cost 75, 000.00. In the millions now and the hits just keep on coming. Slammin Stan wouldn't you like to be wise about something ./...Anything? SLAMOLA, SLAMALAMADINGDONG!
May 26, 2011 at 4:44 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Hey Nunya, whatever prose that is, and I continue to cite the influence of such great writers as Sheen and Manson, I am sure someone with an appropriate dose of LSD could maybe then decipher that and then only maybe. The problem isn't that the honest information is available, its just your dismay about the fact that it shows how wrong you are. Debate the issues with facts Nunya, I would expect better from someone as hysterical as you. You and Stan use provocative tabloid language and continue to be curious as to why the paparazzi club you belong to ends up only talking about what you do not know.
May 26, 2011 at 2:17 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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Slammin Stan you would think a man as important as you would be busy, like with a JOB or something. Finally you agree to use some numbers in your argument for Oakhill! What with your highly sophisticated and worldly means of gathering information. You should be able to get one accurate cost figure on what WASTEHILL has been so far, c'mon Slammin Stan just one # from public records. A guy as "hooked in" as you should be able to do that.
Hey Slammin Stan...SLAM!SLAM!SLAM!
May 26, 2011 at 1:42 p.m. permalink suggest removal
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DOUBLE SLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 26, 2011 at 12:17 p.m. permalink suggest removal
An open letter to the feds
SLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 26, 2011 at 12:15 p.m. permalink suggest removal