Thank you vindy for posting this story. I made a phone call and soon hope to be on the roster of Friends... We have canoed the river from B&O station to New Castle. Its a nice scenic river, the water isnt that deep, and there is a slight slope and current so you dont have to get tired of rowing. Thru Youngstown you will see tires and some trash, but the river seems to have a way of cleansing itself. The scenery from Lowellville thru Pa is beautiful. Since there is a train track r/w on either side, natures views arent spoiled by development. My friends have caught healthy bass, white bass, and catfish. A couple of cranes seem to be there every time, and stay about 50 yards ahead of us the whole way down. Again, thanks vindy, Pat,John and Patricia, and hope a lot people feel like i do and become "Friends"!
Western reserve and Market. Well, i came through today at about 5pm, and i guess i hit it right, got the green light at market and just about drove straight through. THEN, of course i got caught up in the gridlock at South ave/ I680..... But, i think they are working on that too....
Not a prob NoBs. Again, good questions. Its hard to explain in a minimal amount of words. Plus, i took the class a number of years ago, so im remembering as i go along. The inside circle is like a 5 ft tapered sidewalk, so, the outside wheels of the longer trucks will still be on the pavement, but the inside wheels of the middle axles will ride over the inside circular "sidewalk". Again, hard for me to verbalize, but this website seems to describe way better than me, a pictures worth 1000 words. http:// safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/roundabouts/fhwasa10006/ Check it out, the visual descriptions are pretty good.
Im sure that the public meeting will have an aerial plan view showing how much, or really, how little the circle will encroach on the 4 quadrant propertys. It may surprise you.
Costs. I think Scott makes some valid points, and section 7 Costs on the web link makes some good validating points also.
Im sorry NoBS. You mentioned cost also. The roundabout with more pavement surface area, may not be as more expensive than you think. While im not privy to the exact costs, placing new traffic signals at an intersection, "red lights", is in the $50k range. Then a perpetual cost of electricity and maintenance.
There is a cost/benefit amount that also would be attributed to people waiting less time at the intersection.
Again, a friend of mine in law enforcement once told me that this intersection seems to have a higher rate of running the red light type accidents. Ive learned over the years not to question the additional cost for safety. It might be me, you, my or your child/spouse/parent etc who is spared being in an accident.
denny, NoBs. Im not a rocket scientist, but i am an engineer. The roundabout has more benefits to it than you are aware. If you google "Roundabouts FHWA". The federal highway administration has very good information on this, as well as the supporting research. Please read and im sure your well taken concerns will be satisfied. 1. Question of large vehicles. The circle is more visual, not insurmountable. It is a rolled curb that can be driven over by larger vehicles such as trucks and fire trucks. They are able to get through and make turns. 2. There is a safety issue. This intersection has a higher amount of accidents than normal. Roundabouts are proven to improve the safety of an intersection.
3. The engineers at ODOT did a good job at Rt 7/Western Reserve/Woodworth Rd. I used to come through there and traffic was backed up to Glenwwod ave. Now, it seems to operate significantly better, like a normal intersection with a few cars waiting. The difference is that the signal now has only two cycles for two routes, instead of the additional one for Woodworth rd.
River resurgence?
Thank you vindy for posting this story. I made a phone call and soon hope to be on the roster of Friends...
We have canoed the river from B&O station to New Castle. Its a nice scenic river, the water isnt that deep, and there is a slight slope and current so you dont have to get tired of rowing. Thru Youngstown you will see tires and some trash, but the river seems to have a way of cleansing itself. The scenery from Lowellville thru Pa is beautiful. Since there is a train track r/w on either side, natures views arent spoiled by development. My friends have caught healthy bass, white bass, and catfish. A couple of cranes seem to be there every time, and stay about 50 yards ahead of us the whole way down.
Again, thanks vindy, Pat,John and Patricia, and hope a lot people feel like i do and become "Friends"!
July 30, 2012 at 7:33 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Boardman faces increased paving costs
It used to be SR625. Now it is SR170.
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Meeting on Mathews/Sheridan roundabout set April 19
Western reserve and Market. Well, i came through today at about 5pm, and i guess i hit it right, got the green light at market and just about drove straight through. THEN, of course i got caught up in the gridlock at South ave/ I680..... But, i think they are working on that too....
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Meeting on Mathews/Sheridan roundabout set April 19
Not a prob NoBs. Again, good questions. Its hard to explain in a minimal amount of words. Plus, i took the class a number of years ago, so im remembering as i go along. The inside circle is like a 5 ft tapered sidewalk, so, the outside wheels of the longer trucks will still be on the pavement, but the inside wheels of the middle axles will ride over the inside circular "sidewalk". Again, hard for me to verbalize, but this website seems to describe way better than me, a pictures worth 1000 words.
http:// safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/roundabouts/fhwasa10006/
Check it out, the visual descriptions are pretty good.
Im sure that the public meeting will have an aerial plan view showing how much, or really, how little the circle will encroach on the 4 quadrant propertys. It may surprise you.
Costs. I think Scott makes some valid points, and section 7 Costs on the web link makes some good validating points also.
April 12, 2012 at 9:33 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Meeting on Mathews/Sheridan roundabout set April 19
Im sorry NoBS. You mentioned cost also. The roundabout with more pavement surface area, may not be as more expensive than you think. While im not privy to the exact costs, placing new traffic signals at an intersection, "red lights", is in the $50k range. Then a perpetual cost of electricity and maintenance.
There is a cost/benefit amount that also would be attributed to people waiting less time at the intersection.
Again, a friend of mine in law enforcement once told me that this intersection seems to have a higher rate of running the red light type accidents. Ive learned over the years not to question the additional cost for safety. It might be me, you, my or your child/spouse/parent etc who is spared being in an accident.
April 11, 2012 at 8:01 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Meeting on Mathews/Sheridan roundabout set April 19
denny, NoBs. Im not a rocket scientist, but i am an engineer. The roundabout has more benefits to it than you are aware. If you google "Roundabouts FHWA". The federal highway administration has very good information on this, as well as the supporting research. Please read and im sure your well taken concerns will be satisfied.
1. Question of large vehicles. The circle is more visual, not insurmountable. It is a rolled curb that can be driven over by larger vehicles such as trucks and fire trucks. They are able to get through and make turns.
2. There is a safety issue. This intersection has a higher amount of accidents than normal. Roundabouts are proven to improve the safety of an intersection.
3. The engineers at ODOT did a good job at Rt 7/Western Reserve/Woodworth Rd. I used to come through there and traffic was backed up to Glenwwod ave. Now, it seems to operate significantly better, like a normal intersection with a few cars waiting. The difference is that the signal now has only two cycles for two routes, instead of the additional one for Woodworth rd.
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