Truly, the staff of the Vindicator have a responsibility to question the decisions of County elected officials as part of their mission. Accountability is crucial. Sheriff Greene should not be taxed however, in that the individual in question was already an employee at the time of his charge.. He should of course follow departmental policy with follow -up that might include progressive discipline and the requirement of substance abuse assessment and treatment as appropriate. The idea that someone should be thrown out however for having been involved in an unfortunate occurrence is something I am hesitant to support. The same applies to Engineer Ginetti. The hiring of Mr. Bindas was said to have occurred following the successful completion of his sentence as ordered by the Court. I don't know if his conviction should mean that he be banned from any public sector position ever. Perhaps the Engineer felt he was qualified. Shouldn't that be the primary factor? I know folks will say that there are other non-convicted individuals qualified for the job. That may be true, but I certainly don't think that making a mistake and fully paying for it means a person should be banned from a decent job ever again. Just an opinion, but the facts are he did his time and may turn out to be an exemplary employee motivated in gratitude-just a thought.
Oh Flick....Askmeificare???? You probably think this is oaky and in no way influenced Bush's or Gains' decsions regarding the Cafaros and Oakhill huh? Probably doesn't seem like a huge conflict of interest to you like the rest of the non-stupid of the land. Just the beginning. These guys are heralded as Saviors for perpetrating the biggest, most costly witch hunt the County has ever seen, which they lost, while they owed money to those they were tryig to ruin!!!!! Man even you guys wouldn't be STUPID enough to approve of this would you...or would you? I think Ethics Commission should look at this don't you? Just to make sure our politicians are on the up and up and being held to the same standards as those they seek to ruin.
Nom_de_Plume? agree with every aspect of your Oakhill assessment. Every part of state case was political witch hunt by Gains and Tablack. You can even cite Grand Jury misconduct. Usually its easy to get an indictment in most cases, but this was no slam dunk. In fact Judge Evans inappropriately extended the GJ to comply with prosecutorial wishes when no indictments came down within normal time frame. Such an extension requires the full bench or all Common Pleas Judges approval, but Evans did this without the consent of the other Jurists. Know what happened to the two Judges who criticized this action (Krichbaum and Sweeney)-they were brought before the Grand Jury. UNBELIEVABLE!!! Flick and ASKmeificare-don't care-they don't care about the truth. Never point to facts just kiss Betram's a__, and drink his unobjective reasoning. Again, a good citizen would hope that charges are not brought and support the dismissal to prove our elected officials conducted no wrong-doing. No way with these folks, they salivate at convictions, not knowing any facts and not caring that such issues damage our area. Nutballs, in my opinion, have to say that so they don't get their feelings hurt, crybabies too.
A true Youngstown hero. Ray Mancini has been a source of nothing but pride for this community. His commitment to Youngstown and to representing us well is something to be commended. Good luck with your movie Boom Boom!
The charges were dropped because there was no case. The state never had the wiretaps. Ever. So how were indictments even handed down without this crucial piece of evidence that the grand jury never had. If the entire case was based upon those tapes and they were so intricate to its successful prosecution that they could not go forth how then was the indictment created without them. The case should not have been built on evidence that was never available. Plain and simple the State knew it was going to be whipped with or without the tapes. Why were they all of a sudden the crux of the case when they were never heard before.
Askmeificare: You said in an earlier post that Brown wasn't qualified to be Mayor???? Now you vote for him. Maybe its folk like you who are responsible for the lack of integrity in our community. You outwardly criticize someone, then vote for him, but expect things to change-Man, you're a genius. WALTER: I expect more from you. You're response to the POOR quality of journalistic principle on behalf of this rag/ is to simply shut up and not read it? Really..you? I choose not to BUY it, but your whitewashing of what is actually verifiable-the SLANT this paper shows regarding every story is so obvious. They do have some responsibility to be objective and NEVER are, that is why they are a joke.
Hey ASKMEIFICARE! Do you remember how hard you were on Anthony Catale when he was charged with DUI? You stated that because he was in a position of trust it was about his character. Well your boy Bertram has a few of those charges floating around out there. You feel he should keep his judgments to himself because of his weak character- same thing right?
stick to FACTS Flitchard/AskmeifIcare: NOTHING personal. Why is the tremendous cost of that building not an issue? That's the only concern that is unsaid, unnoticed. FACTS: Every one of the counts in the state case was dismissed at THE REQUEST OF THE PROSECUTION. Doesn't take a legal genius and no philosophical judgment to see that means there was no case. If the State never had enough evidence without tapes, how did they indict? Flick I don't care who you are because I am sure you re a nobody, I am just showing how you hide out criticizing others without proof and then go beg McNally for work. NOTHING you claim has been substantiated in any way. Flick, you think Oakhill was a good idea? Seriously, just use facts and tell me why. NOONE who has to work their likes the place. Everyone is afraid to say anything because for years corrupt Tablack would fire you or then and now corrupt Gains will indict you. The old, falling down building continues to suck dollars out of a poor county and made no sense. What amount of money is too much: 10 million, 20, 30? That's what those opposed said and the facts show they were right. The indictment was pulled because it wasn't worth the paper it was written on and that is a fact supported by the dismissal. Shouldn't need tapes of Feds to prove a state case. Nothing more than the power of the prosecutors office wrongly being used to hurt political enemies. Askmeif Icare? You seem to care about Bertram-you feel he's an objective journalist? Never one question about the staggering cost of Oakhill.
Okay now, Greevey nicely done. Anyone with an idea as to politics within this Valley, as you said certainly not simple-minded Flick, would see that low turn-out and racial lines decided this election. NOONE cares about Oakhill except obsessed Bertram and Flick. If they did they would be showing OUTRAGE at its cost to the residents of this County. Actually though Bertram had decided to start writing news stories over the last couple weeks that actually were timely and interesting. No such luck, he has fallen into a horrible Oakhill relapse. Bertram you really don't think that you influence anyone regarding elections? The endorsement of your paper hasn't mattered for a long time. How many people do you actually think saw the 7th ward debate -maybe 100. Flick name for name. Again, so far the record supports me Flichard. No indictments, no Grand Jury, No fed charges just speculation, conspiracies and your rants-when you gonna apologize and admit that when you see McNally you beg him for a job. You're not one of the Lydens who did everything but mow McNally's lawn to get Booby hired at the County and then ran his wife against him are you? That dude got fired in shame. Hey youre more honorable than that right? Name for Name Flick even give you my email.
Early personnel tests for Greene, Ginnetti
Truly, the staff of the Vindicator have a responsibility to question the decisions of County elected officials as part of their mission. Accountability is crucial. Sheriff Greene should not be taxed however, in that the individual in question was already an employee at the time of his charge.. He should of course follow departmental policy with follow -up that might include progressive discipline and the requirement of substance abuse assessment and treatment as appropriate. The idea that someone should be thrown out however for having been involved in an unfortunate occurrence is something I am hesitant to support. The same applies to Engineer Ginetti. The hiring of Mr. Bindas was said to have occurred following the successful completion of his sentence as ordered by the Court. I don't know if his conviction should mean that he be banned from any public sector position ever. Perhaps the Engineer felt he was qualified. Shouldn't that be the primary factor? I know folks will say that there are other non-convicted individuals qualified for the job. That may be true, but I certainly don't think that making a mistake and fully paying for it means a person should be banned from a decent job ever again. Just an opinion, but the facts are he did his time and may turn out to be an exemplary employee motivated in gratitude-just a thought.
May 19, 2013 at 10:36 a.m. permalink suggest removal
County JFS chief Bob Bush subject to long-delayed $70,758 garnishment
Oh Flick....Askmeificare???? You probably think this is oaky and in no way influenced Bush's or Gains' decsions regarding the Cafaros and Oakhill huh? Probably doesn't seem like a huge conflict of interest to you like the rest of the non-stupid of the land. Just the beginning. These guys are heralded as Saviors for perpetrating the biggest, most costly witch hunt the County has ever seen, which they lost, while they owed money to those they were tryig to ruin!!!!! Man even you guys wouldn't be STUPID enough to approve of this would you...or would you? I think Ethics Commission should look at this don't you? Just to make sure our politicians are on the up and up and being held to the same standards as those they seek to ruin.
May 18, 2013 at 8:03 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Oakhill haunts McNally
Nom_de_Plume? agree with every aspect of your Oakhill assessment. Every part of state case was political witch hunt by Gains and Tablack. You can even cite Grand Jury misconduct. Usually its easy to get an indictment in most cases, but this was no slam dunk. In fact Judge Evans inappropriately extended the GJ to comply with prosecutorial wishes when no indictments came down within normal time frame. Such an extension requires the full bench or all Common Pleas Judges approval, but Evans did this without the consent of the other Jurists. Know what happened to the two Judges who criticized this action (Krichbaum and Sweeney)-they were brought before the Grand Jury. UNBELIEVABLE!!! Flick and ASKmeificare-don't care-they don't care about the truth. Never point to facts just kiss Betram's a__, and drink his unobjective reasoning. Again, a good citizen would hope that charges are not brought and support the dismissal to prove our elected officials conducted no wrong-doing. No way with these folks, they salivate at convictions, not knowing any facts and not caring that such issues damage our area. Nutballs, in my opinion, have to say that so they don't get their feelings hurt, crybabies too.
May 15, 2013 at 12:47 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Mancini film set for release
A true Youngstown hero. Ray Mancini has been a source of nothing but pride for this community. His commitment to Youngstown and to representing us well is something to be commended. Good luck with your movie Boom Boom!
May 14, 2013 at 12:43 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Oakhill haunts McNally
The charges were dropped because there was no case. The state never had the wiretaps. Ever. So how were indictments even handed down without this crucial piece of evidence that the grand jury never had. If the entire case was based upon those tapes and they were so intricate to its successful prosecution that they could not go forth how then was the indictment created without them. The case should not have been built on evidence that was never available. Plain and simple the State knew it was going to be whipped with or without the tapes. Why were they all of a sudden the crux of the case when they were never heard before.
May 14, 2013 at 9:55 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Former school board member charged with DUI
My God who cares
May 13, 2013 at 1:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown mayoral vote splits mostly along racial lines
Askmeificare: You said in an earlier post that Brown wasn't qualified to be Mayor???? Now you vote for him. Maybe its folk like you who are responsible for the lack of integrity in our community. You outwardly criticize someone, then vote for him, but expect things to change-Man, you're a genius. WALTER: I expect more from you. You're response to the POOR quality of journalistic principle on behalf of this rag/ is to simply shut up and not read it? Really..you? I choose not to BUY it, but your whitewashing of what is actually verifiable-the SLANT this paper shows regarding every story is so obvious. They do have some responsibility to be objective and NEVER are, that is why they are a joke.
May 13, 2013 at 12:06 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Oakhill haunts McNally
Hey ASKMEIFICARE! Do you remember how hard you were on Anthony Catale when he was charged with DUI? You stated that because he was in a position of trust it was about his character. Well your boy Bertram has a few of those charges floating around out there. You feel he should keep his judgments to himself because of his weak character- same thing right?
May 13, 2013 at 1:17 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Oakhill haunts McNally
stick to FACTS Flitchard/AskmeifIcare: NOTHING personal. Why is the tremendous cost of that building not an issue? That's the only concern that is unsaid, unnoticed. FACTS: Every one of the counts in the state case was dismissed at THE REQUEST OF THE PROSECUTION. Doesn't take a legal genius and no philosophical judgment to see that means there was no case. If the State never had enough evidence without tapes, how did they indict? Flick I don't care who you are because I am sure you re a nobody, I am just showing how you hide out criticizing others without proof and then go beg McNally for work. NOTHING you claim has been substantiated in any way. Flick, you think Oakhill was a good idea? Seriously, just use facts and tell me why. NOONE who has to work their likes the place. Everyone is afraid to say anything because for years corrupt Tablack would fire you or then and now corrupt Gains will indict you. The old, falling down building continues to suck dollars out of a poor county and made no sense. What amount of money is too much: 10 million, 20, 30? That's what those opposed said and the facts show they were right. The indictment was pulled because it wasn't worth the paper it was written on and that is a fact supported by the dismissal. Shouldn't need tapes of Feds to prove a state case. Nothing more than the power of the prosecutors office wrongly being used to hurt political enemies. Askmeif Icare? You seem to care about Bertram-you feel he's an objective journalist? Never one question about the staggering cost of Oakhill.
May 13, 2013 at 1:11 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Oakhill haunts McNally
Okay now, Greevey nicely done. Anyone with an idea as to politics within this Valley, as you said certainly not simple-minded Flick, would see that low turn-out and racial lines decided this election. NOONE cares about Oakhill except obsessed Bertram and Flick. If they did they would be showing OUTRAGE at its cost to the residents of this County. Actually though Bertram had decided to start writing news stories over the last couple weeks that actually were timely and interesting. No such luck, he has fallen into a horrible Oakhill relapse. Bertram you really don't think that you influence anyone regarding elections? The endorsement of your paper hasn't mattered for a long time. How many people do you actually think saw the 7th ward debate -maybe 100. Flick name for name. Again, so far the record supports me Flichard. No indictments, no Grand Jury, No fed charges just speculation, conspiracies and your rants-when you gonna apologize and admit that when you see McNally you beg him for a job. You're not one of the Lydens who did everything but mow McNally's lawn to get Booby hired at the County and then ran his wife against him are you? That dude got fired in shame. Hey youre more honorable than that right? Name for Name Flick even give you my email.
May 12, 2013 at 11:35 a.m. permalink suggest removal