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Anti-fracking charter amendment soundly defeated in Youngstown

Formerdemliber, let me say you are what is known as an addlepate incapable of reading on a grade school level. Allow me to validate as I have previously just how ignorant you are.

First, no one talked about the Constitution in this thread, no one. Since I must once again educate you on the basic formulation of this country if you can read below, big if considering your previous diatribe, please do.

People of this country are seen to have rights outside of the Constitution. These rights are known as unalienable rights. See the founders in the Declaration of Independence decided to state the following " in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

So there you have it.. The founders believed all of us have rights above just those you claim to have read in the Constitution.

May 8, 2013 at 9:10 p.m. suggest removal

Anti-fracking charter amendment soundly defeated in Youngstown

Walter, to respond to your comment, ignorance is bliss such as stated in your comment as well as the comments from RobX and JoefromHubbard.

Even after you are told this country is a Republic you still spew words about democracy. Do you really wonder why some might think there is ignorance that needs some correction?

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."John Adams

May 8, 2013 at 2:27 p.m. suggest removal

Anti-fracking charter amendment soundly defeated in Youngstown

Formerdemliberal, some people have to teach others. For instance let's look at your comment, " I thought democracy is all about majority rules. Guess the frackists forgot that civics lesson. The only "civics" these people know is the car."

You are right democracy is about majority rule which is why this country was founded as a Republic. Somehow with people like yourself you have helped strip away the very foundation this nation was built upon. People have to fight for rights that naturally should be given to them their children and their families like clean air and clean water. They have to fight to have their voices heard.

Just a couple years ago this measure would have had a wider margin of defeat, this tells us more people are beginning to understand, see and feel the effects of this process contrary to the lies of the industry.

People shouldn't have to endure death so a company can conduct "business".

May 8, 2013 at 8:53 a.m. suggest removal

Supporters of the anti-fracking charter amendment say it protects people

Mora County, NM joins over 150 communities across the country which have asserted their right to local self-governance through the adoption of local laws that seek to control corporate activities within their municipality. 

Those here in the Valley let's join them.

April 29, 2013 at 11:40 p.m. suggest removal

Supporters of the anti-fracking charter amendment say it protects people


Way to stay classy there Utica, yup real intellectual comment.

April 29, 2013 at 10:45 p.m. suggest removal

Supporters of the anti-fracking charter amendment say it protects people

Oh13voter, hmm what page specifically mentions the words "lawn mower" ? Have you actually read it as you proclaim others have not?

Had you of done the above you would realize your diatribe while your right to say and post has no merit. Actually the Community Bill of Rights specifically states the comminity has the right to pure water, clean air, peaceful enjoyment of home, right to be free from toxic trespass, natural communities, right to a sustainable energy future, right to self government, right to have the people as sovereign and you're against that and somehow patriotic?

Again, where does it mention a mower? That's right it doesn't. It also states very specifically extraction of water and the subsequent destruction of such water or pollution of that water is considered by the "community" an unlawful act. You're against that? Gee, if you're the measure of a patriotic American I'll take your comment against me as a compliment.

We are a Republic, in a republic the community or in this case what some would consider the minority have a voice. As such we have the right to the essentials of life. Surely if you disagree those essentials are not necessary for this community you have the right to relocate to a town that doesn't mind, Chernobyl is seeking residents.

Here we care and a yes vote demonstrates that very point.

April 29, 2013 at 10:41 p.m. suggest removal

Supporters of the anti-fracking charter amendment say it protects people

Yea highpoint nat gas is cheap so cheap in fact gas companies flare it, a lot. They flare it so much that it is visible from space. Naw, no effects from that. Anyway after the land is raped, water contaminated, and the air polluted what is left? Notta, nothing.

In basic economics when you have something cheap you need to create demand so the price rises, silly thing called profit margine. The gas being obtained is currently be turn into LNG, some of it stored for the expected demand increase while the other part is shipped overseas. I'm sure by now you have seen the pictures of the LNG barge on fire, right?

Fact is those few and I mean few folks working for gas companies locally right now have part time jobs not long term ones. None of the ordinary residents in these towns benefit from any of this production. Instead they are tormented with industrial production and waste which includes radioactive elements. But you think those standing up against this process are clueless, shhesh.

April 29, 2013 at 7:19 p.m. suggest removal

Supporters of the anti-fracking charter amendment say it protects people

What would you trade in place of the trust we all have that when we turn on the water that it should be clean and safe? Apparently some would trade this trust for absolutely nothing.

Ask the folks down stream of the Lupo dump who found out the waste traveling down stream to their homes was not detected nor were they notified. Would you willingly give your child a cup of poision?

The amendment is about a community coming together to say that isn't acceptable to us. We will not trade company profits for that trust. You cannot drink money and water is essential for life. The drawbacks to fracking is increasingly chronicled across the county, all one has to do is to spend a little time reading articles and watching videos posted online. The gas industry has told everyone there isn't any effects for a long time, we now know they lied.

April 29, 2013 at 7:59 a.m. suggest removal

Grueling work, rich rewards loom at ground zero of drilling boom

How about you drink the poison you promote, you breathe the poluted air, you live on the land destroyed. The gas being pulled from the area is being stored, soon to be converted to liquid then transported, shipped and sold overseas. Yet here you thought you knew so much.

April 8, 2013 at 9:26 p.m. suggest removal

Grueling work, rich rewards loom at ground zero of drilling boom

Yup Oilguy poisoning all the residents in the valley is woth a check, right?

April 8, 2013 at 7:47 p.m. suggest removal



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