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Austintown Patrolman Linert testifies about fiery crash

I wasn't aware officer Linert was driving a Pinto.

What happened to him was awful but

While the car has been highly rated for safety, there was some controversy and lawsuits in the 1990s and 2000s over Ford Crown Victoria gas tank leaks after certain types of high speed impacts, specifically when being hit in the rear end at high speeds. These impacts did cause fuel tank failures in the Crown Victoria.

The reports that the cars were more prone to fires during a rear collision was a simple combination of three things. First, most law enforcement agencies rely heavily on the Crown Victoria as their primary vehicle, meaning that any police-related auto accident is very likely to involve a Crown Victoria. Second, the accidents occurred as the result of the officers intentionally parking their vehicles close to active traffic to shield a stopped motorist - something most civilians would never do. Third, the impacting vehicle was often traveling at, or above, the posted legal limit.

The condition was exacerbated by police equipment installers drilling over the package tray in the luggage compartment. Due to the gas tank's orientation, drilling through the package tray may result in drilling into the gas tank. Installers also used screws set directly into the bulkhead and facing the fuel tank. In the event of a high-energy collision, these screws could be forced into the tank, both rupturing the tank and possibly acting as a spark source. Long bolts for mounting heavier equipment were also directly suspect. The manufacturer provided an aftermarket shield to help prevent these items from puncturing the tank during impact. Further, many investigations, both performed by federal/state agencies, and the police department themselves, have found that removable items in the trunk were improperly stowed. These items became tank-piercing projectiles during the rear-collision scenarios. Ford's second solution came in the form of a recall kit including patterns to mark unsafe areas in the luggage compartment. Also included were rubberized kevlar and hard ballistic nylon shields for the differential cover lower shock bolts. They also included a kevlar-based trunk liner. Ford used similar kits on early-1980s model passenger vehicles. For 2005 and newer models, Ford offers an optional on-board fire-suppression system for the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor units. However, Ford does cite several system limitations regarding fuel loss and impact speeds.

Despite numerous court cases charging Ford with partial liability for fires caused in accidents, the company has never been found liable in a Crown Victoria accident.

Notably, only the Ford Crown Victoria and new Ford police car have been certified for high speed rear impact collisions, adding credibility to Ford's statement that fiery crashes are a result of extreme and unfortunate situations.

July 21, 2011 at 10:33 a.m. suggest removal

What if 61 percent of your news stopped?

A few years ago, we were trying to advertise in the Vindy but only wanted to advertise in the outlying suburbs due to the nature of our product and the demographics we were targeting. The Vindy told us they couldn't do that and if we wanted to advertise with them it had to be in the entire circulation at the price determined by that circulation. So we used other suburban local papers and other methods to advertise our business. The advertising model works, just ask Google. But, you have to be flexible and know how to better target the audience. The Vindy was simply to slow and stubborn in understanding the changes occurring in news and how to react to it. If someone is selling a $50,000 automobile, the chances are slim they are targeting most areas of Youngstown and therefore don't want to pay for that circulation.

January 17, 2010 at 9:50 a.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

Lebowski never disappoints as he spouts the standard uneducated lines. Anyone who tells the truth about the Delphi workers and their ridiculously generous wages, benefits, and pensions is obviously jealous! Sorry to disappoint you Jeff, but I'm doing very well thanks. I also am not at the mercy of some employer who might or might not be financially destroyed by my and my coworkers compensation packages. My 401K is still doing very well and my future is quite bright and guess what, it's totally because I'm self sufficient and control my own retirement and health care. I'm also on target to retire early!!! So no need to tell me how jealous I am of people who spent like drunken sailors, got their jobs through connections, forgot to save for the future, and now are at the mercy of the bankruptcy court. They made their own beds and have to deal with the consequences.

October 1, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. suggest removal


Hmmm, everything I said is 100 percent true. Delphi filed for bankruptcy in 2005. Just because it was called Packard Electric prior to the name change and spin off doesn't make it any less inefficient and a dying company for decades. Delphi (Packard Electric) has been around for many decades. How do I know? I worked there!!!

September 30, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. suggest removal

Ohio pike gets EZPass

Get ready for this scam!

First off, there IS going to be job loss. It's already happening. The OTC is trying to get full timers to take buyouts and if they don't get enough takers, layoffs are coming. Add in the fact that there are less hours for the part timers is also happening.

Second, anyone who expects it to save them time hasn't seen Ohio's EZ pass system. Each lane is GATED and each lane will also be a toll lane. Also, they will now accept credit cards. So if you're lucky enough to get a lane without any cars or trucks, you'll still have to come to a complete stop for the GATE to go up slowly. If you get in a lane with someone paying by credit card, expect to wait even longer than now. As usual, the OTC has chosen the least effective method and with the most pain and suffering for the workers and the drivers.

I've not even mentioned the massive toll increases for special trucks and over height trucks. Trucks will now pay per axle not weight a nice BIG increase.

Getting prepped for sale probably.

September 30, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

The white collar employees were simply beneficiaries of the overpayments to the union workers. Whatever the union people got, the white collar people got a little better than that. I can recall many a Packard employee both white and blue collar telling me how good they had it. The gravy train was theirs and mostly through connections. Maybe more so for the union workers but both benefited from the nepotism that occurred there. Retiring in your 50's with full pension and health care when most people could only dream of such largess. The company failed and now the bankruptcy judge and court are going to determine your true value. Sorry, but that's how it works and us taxpayers don't need another leech on our backs.

September 29, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

Well doc, Google doesn't have to pay their employees in the millions of dollars but they do. (with stock options) Google also provides a work environment that keeps their employees happy. The same is true of many companies. What do the highly paid in society have in common? Education and/or a skill. What do the dying industries have in common? Unions and jobs that anyone can do. I agree, unions have a place. It seems that most of them think their place is to extract as much money from the entity so that it fails. In a global economy and it isn't going to go back to the "good old days", unskilled labor just doesn't have the upper hand like it had 50 years ago. Skilled labor is where the power lies. Skilled labor is going to be rewarded. What the moral of this story? Educate yourself and make yourself marketable. Don't whine and cry that life isn't fair and the government should bail you out.

September 29, 2009 at 3:07 p.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

Jeff said....No one held executives at gunpoint with regard to compensation or benefits.

Not gunpoint but certainly strike point. It really is very simple capitalism. Capital flows to where it can make the best return. Unions were a benefit to society decades ago. When American manufacturing was basically a monopoly. Now, they tend to demand via strike threat, wages and benefits far beyond what the free market would pay and since there are plenty of places to move the manufacturing processes where labor is cheaper, that's where it goes. Now are you proposing socialism as a better system than what made America great? If so, you should move to Cuba. Everyone there is in the same boat. It's a sinking boat but a boat none the less. Without the investment of the people with money, America is doomed. Companies like Goldman Sachs, Google, Walmart, McDonalds, and others don't get to their status by kowtowing to unions. Ask any Google employee if he/she'd prefer union representation!

September 29, 2009 at 1:33 p.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

Jeff asked....did the employees on the line make the decision not to diversify the company's business before the late 90's when it was too late to effectively do so?

They did so indirectly by demanding salaries and benefits far in excess of what the market could accept thereby limiting the companies options for diversification and reinvestment. Do you really think that what a company pays has no impact on the rest of the business?

September 29, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. suggest removal

The Delphi Ripple Effect

*** The Delphi Salaried Retirees Association requested the study.***

That alone raises a red flag. Where did Akpadock come up with the 30 jobs per million number?

The Delphi salaried retirees want to whip everyone into a frenzy hoping that more people contacting their politician might help them.

September 29, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. suggest removal



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