The schools still DO get the same amount. Then, the wages increase, there is less money left for supplies and maintenance, and the kids are sent home to ask their parents to buy Kleenex, hand sanitizer, and to print their homework because there are no funds left for paper. These are just a few examples.
I should have been clearer - the percentage of money allocated to public schools has shifted more toward salaries than supplies.
There has been a steady stream of money flowing to the schools from levies, and the people are finally done letting it happen. Poland voters have spoken -- it's just not me.
There's little turnover at most schools because where else can people have job security, great wages, fabulous retirements, and only work 174 days a year?
Lots of people have a Master's. A teacher SHOULD have a Master's.
And, it's a fact that throwing more money at schools hasn't accomplished a darn thing. Proof -- they spent it on sports instead of academics.
Maybe you'd better look up the payment amount for the stadium for the next 20 or so years before you say it has nothing to do with it. Farmer's Bank isn't going to let them slide on their loan, are they?
I, for one, am glad we finally have a governor who is taking a hard look at school salaries and doing something about it. It's good that the tax-paid public school people agreed not to take a raise (this time). Is the light finally going off? Would they have said "no" if the levy had passed?
Years ago, there was plenty of money for school supplies, maintenance, utilities, books, music and art classes, etc.
The administrators and teachers have managed to steer most today's funds/taxes/levy dollars toward themselves. They have priced themselves too far out while most of us weren't watching.
Well, we're watching now.
I'd love to hear just one of them admit that borrowing millions to build that stadium was just plain WRONG.
I'd love to see them band together and donate the funds for the pay-to-play out of their own pockets. It really isn't much.
This is merely a punishment for parents and people who voted NO on the levy.
I would have preferred the thousands and thousands of dollars spent on a new stadium to have been put toward academics where it belongs.
We, out here in taxpayerland, have been hearing for quite some time and quite frequently about all the sacrifices school employees have made. We didn't realize the freezes hadn't gone into effect yet.
Oh, by the way, an elementary teacher making roughly $60 an hour, not including benefits, should have a pretty heavy workload, don't you think?
I'm not sure I care how the Buckeye Institute configures the salaries of teachers. All I see is in 2008 an elementary teacher made $67,000+- and in 2011, the number jumped to $72,000+-. That doesn't look frozen to me.
In 2002 when the last levy was passed, a letter to the editor from Pat Sweeney discussed "pay to play," the percentage of the levy (82%) going to employee salaries, benefits and retirement benefits, and how Dr. Zorn and the school board said: we do not have any funds for anything but payroll and we will be lucky to meet that.
Yet, they went ahead and borrowed hundreds of thousands to build the stadium anyway.
You're right BoardmanBranch. I'm wondering how someone making $67,000+- in 2008 is now making $72,000+- in 2011. I wish somebody could explain this to me.
It's some kind of double talk. I can't find anyone whose pay didn't go up in that time period . . .
Poland BOE to decide on levy
" . . .enrollments continue to decline as projected, then the district could close an elementary school in five years."
If they can project enrollment figures, why couldn't they see the writing on the wall before they borrowed millions in the name of sports?
May 15, 2012 at 7:50 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
You've made a great point, meagain.
The schools still DO get the same amount. Then, the wages increase, there is less money left for supplies and maintenance, and the kids are sent home to ask their parents to buy Kleenex, hand sanitizer, and to print their homework because there are no funds left for paper. These are just a few examples.
That's where it's costing us more.
May 8, 2012 at 8:11 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
Thank you, olddude! I'm so tired of hearing how teachers (and administrators) have given up SO MUCH, when I see increases all those years, too.
If this last levy had passed, you can bet the freezes (that haven't even gone into effect yet) would have been removed.
Again - Poland has to figure out how in the h*ll they're going to pay for that stadium . . .
May 6, 2012 at 1:46 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
I should have been clearer - the percentage of money allocated to public schools has shifted more toward salaries than supplies.
There has been a steady stream of money flowing to the schools from levies, and the people are finally done letting it happen. Poland voters have spoken -- it's just not me.
There's little turnover at most schools because where else can people have job security, great wages, fabulous retirements, and only work 174 days a year?
Lots of people have a Master's. A teacher SHOULD have a Master's.
And, it's a fact that throwing more money at schools hasn't accomplished a darn thing. Proof -- they spent it on sports instead of academics.
May 2, 2012 at 11:54 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
Maybe you'd better look up the payment amount for the stadium for the next 20 or so years before you say it has nothing to do with it. Farmer's Bank isn't going to let them slide on their loan, are they?
I, for one, am glad we finally have a governor who is taking a hard look at school salaries and doing something about it. It's good that the tax-paid public school people agreed not to take a raise (this time). Is the light finally going off? Would they have said "no" if the levy had passed?
May 2, 2012 at 9:12 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
Years ago, there was plenty of money for school supplies, maintenance, utilities, books, music and art classes, etc.
The administrators and teachers have managed to steer most today's funds/taxes/levy dollars toward themselves. They have priced themselves too far out while most of us weren't watching.
Well, we're watching now.
I'd love to hear just one of them admit that borrowing millions to build that stadium was just plain WRONG.
I'd love to see them band together and donate the funds for the pay-to-play out of their own pockets. It really isn't much.
This is merely a punishment for parents and people who voted NO on the levy.
May 1, 2012 at 2:59 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
I would have preferred the thousands and thousands of dollars spent on a new stadium to have been put toward academics where it belongs.
We, out here in taxpayerland, have been hearing for quite some time and quite frequently about all the sacrifices school employees have made. We didn't realize the freezes hadn't gone into effect yet.
Oh, by the way, an elementary teacher making roughly $60 an hour, not including benefits, should have a pretty heavy workload, don't you think?
April 23, 2012 at 4:24 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
So it's all been propaganda that all the school employees have already been sacrificing because their wages are stagnant?
When we look at the past, we can see your future - just go to the taxpayers over and over and over and keep spending an spending and spending.
And, there's no way I'll take any credit for being part of the problem. The school systems are cooking their own gooses.
April 23, 2012 at 2:17 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
I'm not sure I care how the Buckeye Institute configures the salaries of teachers. All I see is in 2008 an elementary teacher made $67,000+- and in 2011, the number jumped to $72,000+-. That doesn't look frozen to me.
In 2002 when the last levy was passed, a letter to the editor from Pat Sweeney discussed "pay to play," the percentage of the levy (82%) going to employee salaries, benefits and retirement benefits, and how Dr. Zorn and the school board said: we do not have any funds for anything but payroll and we will be lucky to meet that.
Yet, they went ahead and borrowed hundreds of thousands to build the stadium anyway.
There is no justification for that. Period.
April 22, 2012 at 5:29 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
You're right BoardmanBranch. I'm wondering how someone making $67,000+- in 2008 is now making $72,000+- in 2011. I wish somebody could explain this to me.
It's some kind of double talk. I can't find anyone whose pay didn't go up in that time period . . .
April 20, 2012 at 8:35 p.m. permalink suggest removal