I originally though the same way you do but have changed my opinion since reading the complete text of the amendment. The part that got me was section 9 parts A, B, C and D. I'd paste it in here, but it's actually about 2 pages long.
Anyhow, suffice it to say that it defines Tax Parcel Numbers in these 4 cities that will constitute the 4 Casinos. When others have said the we are writing "addresses" into our constitution, I thought they were just being over-dramatic. Then I read them. I couldn't believe it. Tax Parcels actually "are" addresses and they are actually included in the amendment.
What our neighboring states have done is had enough common sense to ask a very basic question that our politicians cant or wont ask. "Do we want to allow counties (or cities for that matter) to decide for themselves whether or not to allow Casino Gambling?" I very much doubt that, if you look up Michigan, New York or West Virginia's laws that allow their Casinos to operate, it would say something like "Yes - but only at Presque Isle" or "Yes, but only at Mountaineer Park".
This amendment has nothing what-so-ever to do with progress. I'd love to see a Casino just down the street from me, and if not, I'd love to see Casinos in the state of Ohio. But dolling out 4 street addresses to people who already own those addresses is no way to get it. In fact, far as I can tell, if this passes it will go a long way to making sure nowhere else in the state will EVER get it. And that is as wrong as it gets.
I say we put all political efforts to asking the fundamental question: "Can counties approve their own Casinos within the state of Ohio?" Whats wrong with doing that - why are they so afraid of it?
After reading it, there's no way in Hell, I'd vote for what someone called "this steaming pile of legislation".
Foxtrot and BoredomNeedsChange - next time you idiots have a thought - let it go - would you. Satan could be negotiating for the city if Girard and you'd still blame any problems with the deal on Jay Williams.
Being next to Youngstown is about the only thing that Girard has going for it. V & M wants to be annexed into the city of Youngstown so they dont have to deal with little Caesar mayors like Melfi and self-righteous knuckleheads like you two.
As I understand it, it's a Postal Service regulation that if you get something in the mail that you did not order, you can not be charged for it (a gift - as the previous 2 posts state). I wonder what would happen if we sic the postal service on Edison. . . . ? Any postmen/women out there have an opinion?
Here's all these people who have a grand total of ZERO experience doing something like this, yacking on about how this Cleveland Businessman who actually has done things like this many times, is going to fail and doesnt know what he's doing. . .
Yeah - lets listen to and take the advice of all these arm-chair property developers and weekend warrior business folk. Clearly they know much more than someone who does this for a living. Yeah - this guy got wealthy by doing stupid things and throwing his money away on projects that are obvious failures.
You morons might want to try to take a chance or create something unique sometime rather than sitting comfortably on the sidelines blathering on about someone who does try. Who knows - maybe you might wind up rich and then can throw away your money on a stupid project.
I cant believe these folks are spending time and energy addressing yet another one of those stupid-ass top 10 or top 100 or bottom 10 or bottom 100 whatever lists put out by a rag like Forbes.
This in the very same month that Entrepreneur magazine names Youngstown among the 10 best places in the country to start a business (on the cover no less).
Ignore Forbes - they should be writing those top 10 lists for Letterman instead - then at least people might be mildly amused by them.
And if the guy hadn't have died, they probably would have charged him with some made-up crime to show the voters that they were "on top" of the situation.
Pathetic.
The guy was smart enough to do the job that these clowns didn't.
aeparish, do you actually ever spend ANY time here, or do you make up this trash talk as you go.
I do, in fact live in one of those old homes on 5th Ave. and spend most all of my time on campus, the North Side and Downtown. You are not only grossly mistaken, you are perpetuating the same BS that causes most of the problems here.
It's an amazing thing to hear all these clairvoyant folks like you and Grump tell me all about an area that you spend no actual time in at all, but know much more about than people like me who live/work and play here all of the time. It must be nice to never actually have to prove any of the tripe that you people continually spit out.
The YSU campus is no more unsafe than your own back-yard.
Posted on October 23 at 2:28 p.m.
Hey Pit_Bull_Marley,
I originally though the same way you do but have changed my opinion since reading the complete text of the amendment. The part that got me was section 9 parts A, B, C and D. I'd paste it in here, but it's actually about 2 pages long.
Anyhow, suffice it to say that it defines Tax Parcel Numbers in these 4 cities that will constitute the 4 Casinos. When others have said the we are writing "addresses" into our constitution, I thought they were just being over-dramatic. Then I read them. I couldn't believe it. Tax Parcels actually "are" addresses and they are actually included in the amendment.
What our neighboring states have done is had enough common sense to ask a very basic question that our politicians cant or wont ask. "Do we want to allow counties (or cities for that matter) to decide for themselves whether or not to allow Casino Gambling?" I very much doubt that, if you look up Michigan, New York or West Virginia's laws that allow their Casinos to operate, it would say something like "Yes - but only at Presque Isle" or "Yes, but only at Mountaineer Park".
This amendment has nothing what-so-ever to do with progress. I'd love to see a Casino just down the street from me, and if not, I'd love to see Casinos in the state of Ohio. But dolling out 4 street addresses to people who already own those addresses is no way to get it. In fact, far as I can tell, if this passes it will go a long way to making sure nowhere else in the state will EVER get it. And that is as wrong as it gets.
I say we put all political efforts to asking the fundamental question: "Can counties approve their own Casinos within the state of Ohio?" Whats wrong with doing that - why are they so afraid of it?
After reading it, there's no way in Hell, I'd vote for what someone called "this steaming pile of legislation".
No way.
Posted on October 7 at 9:12 a.m.
Foxtrot and BoredomNeedsChange - next time you idiots have a thought - let it go - would you. Satan could be negotiating for the city if Girard and you'd still blame any problems with the deal on Jay Williams.
Being next to Youngstown is about the only thing that Girard has going for it. V & M wants to be annexed into the city of Youngstown so they dont have to deal with little Caesar mayors like Melfi and self-righteous knuckleheads like you two.
Posted on October 7 at 8:43 a.m.
As I understand it, it's a Postal Service regulation that if you get something in the mail that you did not order, you can not be charged for it (a gift - as the previous 2 posts state).
I wonder what would happen if we sic the postal service on Edison. . . . ?
Any postmen/women out there have an opinion?
Posted on August 24 at 6:30 p.m.
This thread is just commical.
Here's all these people who have a grand total of ZERO experience doing something like this, yacking on about how this Cleveland Businessman who actually has done things like this many times, is going to fail and doesnt know what he's doing. . .
Yeah - lets listen to and take the advice of all these arm-chair property developers and weekend warrior business folk. Clearly they know much more than someone who does this for a living. Yeah - this guy got wealthy by doing stupid things and throwing his money away on projects that are obvious failures.
You morons might want to try to take a chance or create something unique sometime rather than sitting comfortably on the sidelines blathering on about someone who does try. Who knows - maybe you might wind up rich and then can throw away your money on a stupid project.
Posted on August 5 at 5:28 p.m.
I cant believe these folks are spending time and energy addressing yet another one of those stupid-ass top 10 or top 100 or bottom 10 or bottom 100 whatever lists put out by a rag like Forbes.
This in the very same month that Entrepreneur magazine names Youngstown among the 10 best places in the country to start a business (on the cover no less).
Ignore Forbes - they should be writing those top 10 lists for Letterman instead - then at least people might be mildly amused by them.
Posted on April 19 at 11:04 p.m.
Add my name to the opposed list, and I'm not even a student.
Tearing down that deck and replacing it with surface parking is the most monumentally stupid idea that YSU has EVER come up with.
Parking is bad enough now. Spend the much smaller amount of money, renovate it and keep the additional 900 parking spaces.
Posted on April 19 at 8:52 p.m.
In-Freakin credible.
And if the guy hadn't have died, they probably would have charged him with some made-up crime to show the voters that they were "on top" of the situation.
Pathetic.
The guy was smart enough to do the job that these clowns didn't.
Posted on March 25 at 11:05 a.m.
Congrats coach - we miss you guys too.
Take it all the way.
Posted on March 25 at 11:01 a.m.
Or just set up some more speed traps and write some more speeding tickets. . . .
Posted on February 20 at 2:45 p.m.
aeparish, do you actually ever spend ANY time here, or do you make up this trash talk as you go.
I do, in fact live in one of those old homes on 5th Ave. and spend most all of my time on campus, the North Side and Downtown. You are not only grossly mistaken, you are perpetuating the same BS that causes most of the problems here.
It's an amazing thing to hear all these clairvoyant folks like you and Grump tell me all about an area that you spend no actual time in at all, but know much more about than people like me who live/work and play here all of the time. It must be nice to never actually have to prove any of the tripe that you people continually spit out.
The YSU campus is no more unsafe than your own back-yard.