“If you’re looking for a plan, it’s not a waste. But if you don’t implement it, then it is a waste, Sammarone said."
And in the preceding paragraph. . .
“I don’t use the 2010 plan, Sammarone said. “I don’t agree with downsizing the city, which is the basis of the plan."
So what you're saying is that several thousand involved citizens spent several years putting together a plan that hasn't been done since the 50's (probably about the time Sammarone started in politics) only to have him say "I don't use it because "I know better". . . wow. Talk about self centered delusions of grandeur.
This is one of the multitude of reasons that Chris Travers should be the next President of Council.
So - a day after CityScape - downtown's looking great, sun is shining - flowers and landscaping are done - people are out and about enjoying downtown.
Face facts? How would you possibly have any idea what a fact is? Facts to you are simply anything your twisted mind makes up and you spew onto an opinion website. Hope it makes you feel better, because it does nothing else other than verify the fact that you don't know what you're talking about and clearly never come here to enjoy what so many others do.
Stay home in mommy's basement. I'm sure you're allergic to sunshine, fun people and anything else that might actually be good.
What - did the Mahoning County Auditor's office value that deputy's house too high costing him more property taxes? Or was it just that slow of a night. . .
Other than shuffle prisoners back and forth between court and jail - what exactly do the Deputies do? I've seen them walking back and forth down Federal Street to get coffee's and such - all the while walking right by bums with open 40's of beer at 10:00 am standing on the sidewalk right in front of them. Too bad they decided not to enforce "Open Container" laws. I see their cars all over the place, but I've never seen them enforce any of the road stupidity going on right in front of them.
Apparently I'm wrong though. They do actually pull people over and give them tickets for not staying in their lanes. I'm also sure they are good at issuing DUI's all over the mean streets of Canfield.
It's a shame they don't seem to consider Youngstown part of Mahoning County, because they don't seem to enforce anything here.
As I've said many times - the fact that someone has a long history in city or county government in this area should be their biggest secret - not a selling point.
These are the people who's decisions and actions have brought us to the position we are currently in. Failing schools, declining population, fiscal failure and that fact that we are generally considered to be the punch-line to a joke!
Putting any career politician in this position is simply repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome - and you know what that is the definition of. . . .
No what defies comprehension is the fact that you looked at these 3 ass-clowns and decided who would be best between them. . .and then actually recommended that people vote that way.
What kind of ridiculous stupidity is that?
I'm with Phil - best choice is "None of the above." The best candidate is either an independent or a write-in.
Youngstown is doing better now than it has been in the last 30 years not due to Gods efforts, but those of the hard working long suffering people that live, work, play and yes. . . worship here. Either way Youngstown is doing just fine thank you.
My condescending attitude comes from your complete and utter disregard for the basic tenets that this country was founded on, namely separation of church and state. And your pseudo-intellectual recital of the "Constitution" makes you even worse.
Of course your God is the only one right? Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and any other of the hundreds of other religions practiced in this country are all wrong I guess. Fundamental Christianity is all there is and our laws should be based on that because you say so - right?
Luckily, the laws we all live by in this country are not subject to your approval or the approval of mainstream Christianity. I can live with your silly-ass reciting of bible verses and sayings as "proof" of your point because, in your mind at least, it does prove your point. But when you start misquoting and putting your interpretation and spin on documents that this country is founded on you have now crossed the line between what I can just smile and accept as "your opinion" and what I cant. If you are going to quote some of the greatest words ever put to paper, at least have the common decency to know which document you are quoting from.
willinnyny Started this whole debacle with the following post:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." The United States Constitution.
As of the time I write this - there are 54 posts from people arguing what "God" says and what the "Constitution" says (as though any of you know exactly what that might be).
The law of the land we live in is, in fact, the Constitution of the Unites States (you know - the one that begins with "We the People"). Throughout this whole thread - no one has seemed to notice the fact that the the first quote is not from the Constitution at all. It is from the Declaration of Independence.
No where in the original Constitution does it state that all men are created equal or any of that. In fact, it took the 13th amendment to the Constitution to say that Black People were equal. Slavery was abolished - this happened in 1864 and ratified in 1865 by the way (almost 100 years AFTER the founding of this country). And I have no idea what you all think you understand about what God wants, but I'm figuring you're as wrong there as you are in the legal part.
So all you arm-chair legal experts go back to debating gay marriage, but please leave God and Law out of it - will ya?
zz3 I think you ought to take your own advise and spend a bit of time here.
I live and work here. I walk down these streets and see whats happening here on a daily basis and have for the last 22 years which is exactly why I know how full of crap your description of town is. You clearly spend no time here what-so-ever and have no idea what the sam-hell you are talking about. There are, in fact, a few bums hanging around begging for money, but they are not nearly the plague you make them out to be.
"To improve truth must be in the open" absolutely true - it's just a shame that people like you don't seem to know the difference between your twisted perception of a place you never go and what that place is actually like. The truth is that downtown is a really nice place to live, work and hang out. If you don't realize this that's fine - stay out in the burbs in moms basement and quit slinging any more of your warped reality BullS&^%t.
Youngstown spends $1M-plus on studies, largely unused
“If you’re looking for a plan, it’s not a waste. But if you don’t implement it, then it is a waste, Sammarone said."
And in the preceding paragraph. . .
“I don’t use the 2010 plan, Sammarone said. “I don’t agree with downsizing the city, which is the basis of the plan."
So what you're saying is that several thousand involved citizens spent several years putting together a plan that hasn't been done since the 50's (probably about the time Sammarone started in politics) only to have him say "I don't use it because "I know better". . . wow. Talk about self centered delusions of grandeur.
This is one of the multitude of reasons that Chris Travers should be the next President of Council.
June 3, 2013 at 12:19 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown planting group blossoms to 500 volunteers
So - a day after CityScape - downtown's looking great, sun is shining - flowers and landscaping are done - people are out and about enjoying downtown.
Face facts? How would you possibly have any idea what a fact is? Facts to you are simply anything your twisted mind makes up and you spew onto an opinion website. Hope it makes you feel better, because it does nothing else other than verify the fact that you don't know what you're talking about and clearly never come here to enjoy what so many others do.
Stay home in mommy's basement. I'm sure you're allergic to sunshine, fun people and anything else that might actually be good.
June 3, 2013 at noon permalink suggest removal
Top sheriff’s official and sergeant probed in Sciortino traffic stop
Wow - a failure to stay in your lane ticket?
What - did the Mahoning County Auditor's office value that deputy's house too high costing him more property taxes? Or was it just that slow of a night. . .
Other than shuffle prisoners back and forth between court and jail - what exactly do the Deputies do? I've seen them walking back and forth down Federal Street to get coffee's and such - all the while walking right by bums with open 40's of beer at 10:00 am standing on the sidewalk right in front of them. Too bad they decided not to enforce "Open Container" laws. I see their cars all over the place, but I've never seen them enforce any of the road stupidity going on right in front of them.
Apparently I'm wrong though. They do actually pull people over and give them tickets for not staying in their lanes. I'm also sure they are good at issuing DUI's all over the mean streets of Canfield.
It's a shame they don't seem to consider Youngstown part of Mahoning County, because they don't seem to enforce anything here.
June 3, 2013 at 11:40 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Jamael Brown gets our nod in Youngstown mayoral race
As I've said many times - the fact that someone has a long history in city or county government in this area should be their biggest secret - not a selling point.
These are the people who's decisions and actions have brought us to the position we are currently in. Failing schools, declining population, fiscal failure and that fact that we are generally considered to be the punch-line to a joke!
Putting any career politician in this position is simply repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome - and you know what that is the definition of. . . .
May 6, 2013 at 11:50 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Jamael Brown gets our nod in Youngstown mayoral race
"Smith’s candidacy defies comprehension."
No what defies comprehension is the fact that you looked at these 3 ass-clowns and decided who would be best between them. . .and then actually recommended that people vote that way.
What kind of ridiculous stupidity is that?
I'm with Phil - best choice is "None of the above." The best candidate is either an independent or a write-in.
May 6, 2013 at 11:45 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown vigil backs marriage equality
By the way Laurieljc
Youngstown is doing better now than it has been in the last 30 years not due to Gods efforts, but those of the hard working long suffering people that live, work, play and yes. . . worship here. Either way Youngstown is doing just fine thank you.
April 4, 2013 at 5:30 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown vigil backs marriage equality
@BigBen and Laurieljc
My condescending attitude comes from your complete and utter disregard for the basic tenets that this country was founded on, namely separation of church and state. And your pseudo-intellectual recital of the "Constitution" makes you even worse.
Of course your God is the only one right? Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and any other of the hundreds of other religions practiced in this country are all wrong I guess. Fundamental Christianity is all there is and our laws should be based on that because you say so - right?
Luckily, the laws we all live by in this country are not subject to your approval or the approval of mainstream Christianity. I can live with your silly-ass reciting of bible verses and sayings as "proof" of your point because, in your mind at least, it does prove your point. But when you start misquoting and putting your interpretation and spin on documents that this country is founded on you have now crossed the line between what I can just smile and accept as "your opinion" and what I cant. If you are going to quote some of the greatest words ever put to paper, at least have the common decency to know which document you are quoting from.
April 4, 2013 at 5:20 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown planting group blossoms to 500 volunteers
Back to mommy's basement with ya. Fly Fly Fly. . . .
April 2, 2013 at 3:18 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Downtown vigil backs marriage equality
This thread is Hilarious!
willinnyny Started this whole debacle with the following post:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
The United States Constitution.
As of the time I write this - there are 54 posts from people arguing what "God" says and what the "Constitution" says (as though any of you know exactly what that might be).
The law of the land we live in is, in fact, the Constitution of the Unites States (you know - the one that begins with "We the People"). Throughout this whole thread - no one has seemed to notice the fact that the the first quote is not from the Constitution at all. It is from the Declaration of Independence.
No where in the original Constitution does it state that all men are created equal or any of that. In fact, it took the 13th amendment to the Constitution to say that Black People were equal. Slavery was abolished - this happened in 1864 and ratified in 1865 by the way (almost 100 years AFTER the founding of this country). And I have no idea what you all think you understand about what God wants, but I'm figuring you're as wrong there as you are in the legal part.
So all you arm-chair legal experts go back to debating gay marriage, but please leave God and Law out of it - will ya?
April 2, 2013 at 3:04 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Youngstown planting group blossoms to 500 volunteers
zz3 I think you ought to take your own advise and spend a bit of time here.
I live and work here. I walk down these streets and see whats happening here on a daily basis and have for the last 22 years which is exactly why I know how full of crap your description of town is. You clearly spend no time here what-so-ever and have no idea what the sam-hell you are talking about. There are, in fact, a few bums hanging around begging for money, but they are not nearly the plague you make them out to be.
"To improve truth must be in the open" absolutely true - it's just a shame that people like you don't seem to know the difference between your twisted perception of a place you never go and what that place is actually like. The truth is that downtown is a really nice place to live, work and hang out. If you don't realize this that's fine - stay out in the burbs in moms basement and quit slinging any more of your warped reality BullS&^%t.
March 28, 2013 at 1:46 p.m. permalink suggest removal