As has been said numerous times in the past, IT IS TIME TO REMOVE NORTHSIDE from the mix so that the rest of the system can move forward. Fail to do this, and you kill the entire system. Northside is the cancer that ails the system, has been, and while some improvements may have been made, there is not enough that can be done to "save the patient".
Maybe this could be the spark that ignites the FUSE instead. Youngstown has been imploding for years - this event is just another last gasp of heavy handed political games played by Jay and Youngstown (and Warren, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, etc.) over the last several decades.
Take a look at the school report cards - how PROUD Youngstown must be to be the WORST IN THE STATE! Warren City ... right there behind them - carrying on that long-standing "proud" tradition.
Obviously the schools and the cities are not one in the same, but they are, for all intents and purposes, reflections of each other and a true picture of the failures of the communities. People like Jay need to learn how to lead rather than covet what their neighbors have.
What happens in the end when the jobs never come? Go look at that commuter aircraft factory out there in Vienna and tell me that never happens...
I would see how unions have historically and currently created an environment that no businessman in his right mind wants to enter. I would see a tax structure unfriendlier to businesses than most of the other 49 states of the republic. I would see selfish politicians who covet what their neighbors have instead of doing something to improve their own fifedoms. And I would see that most of the state's major population centers has a propensity for political corruption and for electing inept politicians whose names somehow must be followed by a letter "D" to get into office in these densely populated pockets of the state.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe we all need to start by finding something we can agree on to foster a positive cooperative situation rather than digging in our heels defending why "my way" has to be better than "your way" - I think it is a character flaw that many in this once great state seem to have ... but then again, it depends on how you want to look at it.
So Girard is being told (wink wink) by Jay that they can have half the taxes. Fine, leave the boundaries alone and split the taxes - I'm sure Girard would be willing to do the JEDD thing Jay was so sold on when trying to take over Austintown Boardman and Canfield last year ...
Right now this is nothing more than a land grab attempt by Jay. What the future brings will hapen, or not happen, with or without whatever Jay thinks.
If you believe everything he is trying to sell you right now, I know of a blimp factory in Vienna that someone might try to sell you on... or how about a commuter aircraft factory - Jay is playing on the emotions of people who are so desperate for things to be like they used to be decades ago that he thinks he can fool everyone. As the city folk like to say when they were squawking about breaking the law on residency requirements, they knew this land was in Girard before they started putting this together - the fact that nothing other than a boundary line on a map will change is reason enough alone to leave it all alone.
Alternatively, I say it's time for Mahoning County to start declaring open season on the current borders of Youngstown. After all, two can play this game. Howland and Leavitsburg, let's go - get going after Warren - take back the land they are mis-using or not using...
Unfortunately, the people got what they deserved - both then, and now. People of the valley keep electing these fools to begin with - just because they had a "D" after their name on the ballot or just because they suck up to the unions, or just because .... whatever, fill in the blank. So the people who put this guy in there got what they deserved in the end.
And if you want to look at it in a non-vindictive way, Vindicator, Tsgaris gets what he deserves too - he is no longer in office, he SHOULDN'T be able to ever hold elective office again based on this failure, and apparently he was tried and found guilty and has to pay fines and costs and undergo punishment proportional to the deed he has done.
I'm in no way defending the guy - I would not have elected him in the first place. But it is obvious that this writer's opinion is all about making an example out of someone or otherwise being vindictive as if he had personally stolen his lunch or something. Save the jail space - go out and arrest some criminals, maybe some murderers or drug dealers who are actually physically harming our citizens and let them sit in jail - at least for the tax dollars we get someone really harmful off the streets - meanwhile flick this moron off into the corner somewhere and chain him to a stake in his back yard where someone can keep an eye on him - he won't cause the public any more harm, and surely nobody would ever vote him in office in the valley again ... right?
Throw your best resources at the situations clearly most likely to fail - yeah, that's a plan for good use of available resources. Our best resources should be used in the places demonstrating most likely to benefit and show a return on the investment of those resources. Until some of these failing districts demonstrate a desire to help themselves out of this problem, nothing anybody else throws at them will be effectively implemented.
Hmm... more backroom meetings with Youngstown politicians, more intimidation of the good people of Girard? More blatant violations of open meeting laws? All for what? So Jay can pull the wool over the eyes of a few people to get what he covets of his neighbors.
People who fail to learn from the mistakes of the past are likely to repeat them in the future. A bright new future in Jay's eyes is for him and his deteriorated fifedom to take over anything and everything he can from the surrounding area.
A bright new future would call for Youngstown to improve it's status to match the surrounding areas - not for Youngstown to drag the surrounding areas down to a level to make Youngstown seem less mediocre. Be careful what you wish for...
Way to go Cramer and Crew! Keep up the good work. It's one thing if the employees in the store WANT to organize - there is a process for that - though it seems the real employees don't wan this. Meanwhile, the two year intimidation campaign is ludicrous and should be seen for what it is. Nice way to keep killing what few jobs are left in the valley people.
Posted on September 15 at 6:26 p.m.
As has been said numerous times in the past, IT IS TIME TO REMOVE NORTHSIDE from the mix so that the rest of the system can move forward. Fail to do this, and you kill the entire system. Northside is the cancer that ails the system, has been, and while some improvements may have been made, there is not enough that can be done to "save the patient".
Posted on September 9 at 9:29 a.m.
"do whatever it takes to keep the screaming loons out"...
You can bet they will - after all, this dog and pony show is being RUN by the loons to begin with
Posted on August 26 at 5:10 p.m.
Maybe this could be the spark that ignites the FUSE instead. Youngstown has been imploding for years - this event is just another last gasp of heavy handed political games played by Jay and Youngstown (and Warren, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, etc.) over the last several decades.
Take a look at the school report cards - how PROUD Youngstown must be to be the WORST IN THE STATE! Warren City ... right there behind them - carrying on that long-standing "proud" tradition.
Obviously the schools and the cities are not one in the same, but they are, for all intents and purposes, reflections of each other and a true picture of the failures of the communities. People like Jay need to learn how to lead rather than covet what their neighbors have.
What happens in the end when the jobs never come? Go look at that commuter aircraft factory out there in Vienna and tell me that never happens...
Posted on August 25 at 12:44 a.m.
Pot? Meet Kettle?
Pot, quit calling kettle black!
Oh my, oh my sneaky Sherrod needs to LOOK IN THE MIRROR before he speaks.
Posted on August 24 at 1:03 a.m.
I would see how unions have historically and currently created an environment that no businessman in his right mind wants to enter. I would see a tax structure unfriendlier to businesses than most of the other 49 states of the republic. I would see selfish politicians who covet what their neighbors have instead of doing something to improve their own fifedoms. And I would see that most of the state's major population centers has a propensity for political corruption and for electing inept politicians whose names somehow must be followed by a letter "D" to get into office in these densely populated pockets of the state.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe we all need to start by finding something we can agree on to foster a positive cooperative situation rather than digging in our heels defending why "my way" has to be better than "your way" - I think it is a character flaw that many in this once great state seem to have ... but then again, it depends on how you want to look at it.
Posted on August 24 at 12:56 a.m.
So Girard is being told (wink wink) by Jay that they can have half the taxes. Fine, leave the boundaries alone and split the taxes - I'm sure Girard would be willing to do the JEDD thing Jay was so sold on when trying to take over Austintown Boardman and Canfield last year ...
Right now this is nothing more than a land grab attempt by Jay. What the future brings will hapen, or not happen, with or without whatever Jay thinks.
If you believe everything he is trying to sell you right now, I know of a blimp factory in Vienna that someone might try to sell you on... or how about a commuter aircraft factory - Jay is playing on the emotions of people who are so desperate for things to be like they used to be decades ago that he thinks he can fool everyone. As the city folk like to say when they were squawking about breaking the law on residency requirements, they knew this land was in Girard before they started putting this together - the fact that nothing other than a boundary line on a map will change is reason enough alone to leave it all alone.
Alternatively, I say it's time for Mahoning County to start declaring open season on the current borders of Youngstown. After all, two can play this game. Howland and Leavitsburg, let's go - get going after Warren - take back the land they are mis-using or not using...
Posted on August 24 at 12:46 a.m.
Unfortunately, the people got what they deserved - both then, and now. People of the valley keep electing these fools to begin with - just because they had a "D" after their name on the ballot or just because they suck up to the unions, or just because .... whatever, fill in the blank. So the people who put this guy in there got what they deserved in the end.
And if you want to look at it in a non-vindictive way, Vindicator, Tsgaris gets what he deserves too - he is no longer in office, he SHOULDN'T be able to ever hold elective office again based on this failure, and apparently he was tried and found guilty and has to pay fines and costs and undergo punishment proportional to the deed he has done.
I'm in no way defending the guy - I would not have elected him in the first place. But it is obvious that this writer's opinion is all about making an example out of someone or otherwise being vindictive as if he had personally stolen his lunch or something. Save the jail space - go out and arrest some criminals, maybe some murderers or drug dealers who are actually physically harming our citizens and let them sit in jail - at least for the tax dollars we get someone really harmful off the streets - meanwhile flick this moron off into the corner somewhere and chain him to a stake in his back yard where someone can keep an eye on him - he won't cause the public any more harm, and surely nobody would ever vote him in office in the valley again ... right?
Posted on August 24 at 12:33 a.m.
Throw your best resources at the situations clearly most likely to fail - yeah, that's a plan for good use of available resources. Our best resources should be used in the places demonstrating most likely to benefit and show a return on the investment of those resources. Until some of these failing districts demonstrate a desire to help themselves out of this problem, nothing anybody else throws at them will be effectively implemented.
Posted on August 23 at 2:29 a.m.
Hmm... more backroom meetings with Youngstown politicians, more intimidation of the good people of Girard? More blatant violations of open meeting laws? All for what? So Jay can pull the wool over the eyes of a few people to get what he covets of his neighbors.
People who fail to learn from the mistakes of the past are likely to repeat them in the future. A bright new future in Jay's eyes is for him and his deteriorated fifedom to take over anything and everything he can from the surrounding area.
A bright new future would call for Youngstown to improve it's status to match the surrounding areas - not for Youngstown to drag the surrounding areas down to a level to make Youngstown seem less mediocre. Be careful what you wish for...
Posted on August 23 at 2:23 a.m.
Way to go Cramer and Crew! Keep up the good work. It's one thing if the employees in the store WANT to organize - there is a process for that - though it seems the real employees don't wan this. Meanwhile, the two year intimidation campaign is ludicrous and should be seen for what it is. Nice way to keep killing what few jobs are left in the valley people.
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