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Canfield


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3 bedroom, 4 bath
$335000


Poland


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3 bedroom, 5 bath
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Canfield voters asked to pass levy

Sorry to upset, wasn't my intention. Just wanted to share another perspective. You're definitely right about funding cuts to other areas. I worked in a hospital before going to the ESC and my husband still does. It's unfortunate and very scary. Such a negative impact on patient care.

I can assure you canfield is not paying me and I'm not on their payroll : ) I typically advocate for education. I did a lot more to advocate for Poland and I'm not on their payroll either : ) I know a lot about Mah Co schools and some Col Co just bc of what I do. As I'm sure you have knowledge in your field.

Pot, I'm an Atown grad, that's primarily why I used them as an example. I feel I had a great education then! Just pointing out that over 400 kids (that's the actual number) open enrolled from Ytown alone. There was a drop in performance index scores and student yearly growth (those aren't new measurements, they were a part of the old grading system too) resulting in the lower report card grades. It's not the same as it used to be. That's why districts avoid open enrollment like the plague even though it brings in dollars. Bdm, Poland, canfield and Campbell are the only Mah Co ones left that are closed enrollment.

I'm not sure what you mean by tight leash? You can't be selective about the students you take in. That's illegal. It's strictly first come first serve. The only student that can be denied is one who has been expelled from another district. A district can choose to open to only adjacent districts though. As far as #s, I mentioned Atown had 400+ from Ytown city alone. That's a pretty good amount. They typically take to capacity ( if that many apply )bc the only reason it's done is for $.

I actually prefer the new grading system over the old one. It's absolutely confusing if you're not in education though. Like someone in education trying to interpret an MRI report! But I think it's a much better representation of student and district performance. At least when compared to the prior method.

Anyways, I just wanted to point out a few financials. It's important to be informed. I hate to see health care cut, I hate to see education cut. Thanks for the debate : )

October 22, 2013 at 10:18 p.m. suggest removal

Canfield voters asked to pass levy

Hi Bdm Resident! The cuts from Gov Kasich were pretty harsh to affluent districts like Canfield. These cuts occurred after the last levy (and prior, and will likely continue). Upon inspection, the specific amount cut to Canfield was 1 million annually. Gov Kasich's school funding plan revolves around the local tax payers paying more and the state paying less to fund education, especially in affluent districts. Levies typically spread over 5-10 years. That's probably the difference in amount.

As far as numbers, the Ohio Department of Education has Canfield forecasted as being 1.5 million in debt. That's about what we were in Poland when we had our levy up. Luckily levies passed in both Boardman and Poland and open enrollment was deferred in those districts.

I completely understand your stance on pay to play. From my experience parents often complain about that burden (not sure if that's true specifically to Canfield). I would say the district is making an attempt to appease parents and show they take their concerns seriously. It's very hard to please everyone in the education world! But, again, a small portion would go toward that. The majority would likely go toward that 1.5 mil forecasted deficit (a number that would grow significantly each year without additional revenue). You don't operate at a deficit like that. You look elsewhere if levies don't pass (i.e. revenue from open enrollment, it's honestly a last resort).

Looks like they are having forums for people with concerns and there's a contact email above. I understand concerns residents have. I also know districts don't go to the public unless they have to. I do remember Canfield cut 30 teaching positions in an effort to save, that's pretty significant in a district of Canfield's size. But communication is key and they need to let their residents know they need help.

Again, I work at the ESC and have a lot of experience working with different area districts. I live in Poland and love our district but I also have a lot of respect for Canfield. They are a very good district, very good. I just see what happens to good districts that lose support.

October 21, 2013 at 7:08 p.m. suggest removal

Canfield voters asked to pass levy

I live in Poland and did not create an account for this article, I just forgot my username and had to reset. I frequently comment on school issues as I work for the Educational Service Center and understand school budgets. I'm not sure how Canfield has marketed the levy but I can tell you they are running on a deficit. You can view any district's deficit on the Ohio Department of Education's website. Maybe it should be marketed differently? I know that was hammered when we had our levy up in Poland last fall.

October 21, 2013 at 8:01 a.m. suggest removal

Canfield voters asked to pass levy

Here are the grades from 2012-2013 curtesy of vindy

http://media3.vindy.com/news/document...

I don't reside in Canfield so I don't have a dog in this fight. I just don't think people understand that when your school runs out of money and has no choice but to open their enrollment up there are many consequences to home owners. The cost of a pizza per month is nothing next to thousands lost in property values because of bad schools. Keep failing levies and that's what will happen eventually.

I don't think the school district (or any district) thinks its voters are stupid. Pay to play and busing are such a small portion of the levy, things most schools offer. How about implementing all day Kindergarten and paying off debt they owe? Those are pretty important.

October 21, 2013 at 7:18 a.m. suggest removal

Canfield voters asked to pass levy

It's unfortunate residents don't realize that not supporting their school district hurts their community. Canfield has trimmed 4 million from the budget. A bulk of the levy will fund the school operations and pay off debt. The relief of busing and pay to play sports for families is only a portion of what the revenue will go toward. Funding is down and they are pulling money from reserves that will not last much longer (even with the cuts they have made). The reserve money is running out. Eventually there will not be any reserve left to begin a school year. That means open enrollment. Open enrollment has negative effects on districts like Canfield. Scores fall and property values plummet. Austintown went to open enrollment and has over 400 kinds that open enrolled there. There scores have sunk and they received multiple "F"s on their most recent report card. That has huge impacts on property values. In Canfield, you have a district with a vision to be in the top ten in the state of Ohio by 2017. Be supportive of the community and look at it as an investment.

October 20, 2013 at 10:41 p.m. suggest removal

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