Here's a quote from Ytownomg:" I'm all for helping those who cannot work. I'm all for taking care of the young and the elderly. I'm all for giving people a chance to get back on their feet."
Except when it comes to Obamacare.
December 4, 2013 at 10:57 p.m.
@kurtw,I realize that you are late to this thread, but the issue of tort reform as an effective means to control health care cost has already debunked.
Ban Tobacco - like prohibition of alcohol????- how did that work out? Incidentally, Tobacco use in Europe is significantly higher than in the US, and their health care costs are lower. (go figure)
BTW your linking Clinton, Gore and Carter with Jim Crow laws and slavery is slightly inflamatory. Having lived in the tobacco growing South, Republicans are just as responsible for protecting the tobacco industry.
December 4, 2013 at 12:57 p.m.
76, You chose to use your family as an example.
Using that information It takes practically no time to determine that the configuration of your family of three adults are persons aged 56 and 54 and 33.
For the sake of discussion if your total family income is 30,000 (each person working at a 10,000/yr job) you would still not get a 15,132 subsidy (as you claim would be possible).
Either you have miscalculated your family plan, or it's not a family plan at all, or you just made up some numbers. Or, the last possibility is that your family has no income.
December 2, 2013 at 11:17 p.m.
Are you proposing the end of healthcare insurers?
Or that insurers should allow the policyholders to go to any provider (eliminate networks or preferred provider discounts)?
Regarding government involvement, should the government stop regulating who can practice medicine?
December 2, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.
The nightmare scenerio:
The newly insured under Obamacare become democrats.
December 2, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
Conservatives GREATEST fear:
In rural Kentucky, health-care debate takes back seat as the long-uninsured line up
“Soon, Ronald Hudson walked in (to the clinic)
“Okay,” Lively began. “What Hudsons are you kin to?”
“R.T., Uncle Lenny . . .” said Hudson, a skinny 35-year-old who worked as an assistant director at the senior center and had just been released from the hospital after a blood-sugar spike.
He’d never had insurance before and said his hospital bills were up to $23,000 at this point.
“Good night,” Lively said, tapping in his information.
Kids: five. Salary: about $14,000 before taxes.
“You’re going to qualify for a medical card,” she told Hudson.
“Well, thank God,” Hudson said, laughing. “I believe I’m going to be a Democrat.” “
(from article about Breathitt County Kentucky)www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-ru...
December 2, 2013 at midnight
@76Ytown,Using the KFF calculator I come up with a silver plan as you described with 3 adults aged 56,54 and 33.There are other combinations such as 60,60 and less than 21.
I sincerely ment no offense by suggesting unique, but the 15,132 you said exactly fit the 3 adults case. If that were the situation, the third adult would have to be a dependent.
If your family situation is not even close to the above, I think you might want to check back with KFF for a new estimate.
Sanjay can speak for himself, but I think what he was objecting to was eivo's implication that this "spin" is a gross distortion of the truth.
November 30, 2013 at 11:23 p.m.
@76ytown,The implication of an annual premium of 15,100 is that the average age of your family unit of 3 is approximately 51.
If that is somewhat accurate, your's is a unique family unit.
November 29, 2013 at 10:56 p.m.
@ytown,You said your old policy was canceled and replaced with a 1100/ mo policy. What will a policy thru the exchange cost you for a family of 3?
November 27, 2013 at 11:16 p.m.
Eivo,How about some source for your assertions. Or are you trying to tell us that you personally know these millions, or these record numbers of doctors?
November 27, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.