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Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@Oviets,

oviets said:"You can't win elections with the legal vote so you want to grant the right to vote to illegals."

Can you name ANYone who has proposed "giving the right to vote to illegal aliens"?

August 28, 2015 at 8:54 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@Lives in warren and oviets:

"Under current law, non-citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections, and it is a federal crime for a non-citizen to vote or register to vote in such an election, punishable by imprisonment and/or the initiation of removal proceedings against that individual" - 18 US Code para 611

Imagine yourself an alien that is illegal. Would you chance being exposed to cast a single ballot?

Unless you provide evidence that this is a widespread practice..... well it's just another myth.

August 28, 2015 at 8:35 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@tn
Your remark:"And the offspring of ILLEGAL ALIENS are not citizens"

You may wish they are not citizens, you may want to change the constitution, until you convince the Supreme Court .... It's the law. And I assume that you don't want to be one advocating breaking the law that you hold in great regard.

Sorry - you've got nothing but angry rhetoric

August 28, 2015 at 5:17 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

Cambridge,

That's what I suspect as well.

As futile as it may be, perhaps occasionally having people actually confront the reality that their reactions are based on mythological fears, they MIGHT begin to question the myth-tellers.

Not saying that the Dems are fault-less, but as far as the immigration controversy goes the Repubs are being overtly xenophobic.

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August 28, 2015 at 1:38 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

I've provided numerous citations that suggest that the "problem" is largely mythical, citations with actual measurements.

I invite you to provide your own proofs.
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.... a resounding silence......

Maybe that's what Trump means when he says that his followers are "the silent majority"

August 28, 2015 at 9:26 a.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

While you are all arguing about a "solution" (recall Adolph's "final solution"?) ......

I continue to ask if there is a real, tangible, measurable, problem.

So far no one has been able to prove that there is a problem that is so significant that we should amend the constitution, build a 200 billion dollar wall (then perhaps build another one on the northern border), spend another 200-500 billion in enforcement, capture, trial, and deportation.

Please show how the expense is commensurate with the problem.

I've provided numerous citations that suggest that the "problem" is largely mythical, citations with actual measurements.

I invite you to provide your own proofs.

August 27, 2015 at 7:51 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

Walter is also correct when he says:

"Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense"

At findlaw.com they make the distinction between two different immigration violations:

A) "Improper Entry Is a Crime"..... and "like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict". - So those who are actually caught "in the act" of evading the border and border patrol actually goes to trial and testifies would must likely be convicted and incarcerated for no more than 6 months and a 250 dollar fine.

B) "Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime" ....
"It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal."

"Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many (upwards to 5 million) foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons."

August 27, 2015 at 7:34 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@ above...
Bleeding heart Bob here,

Walter has pretty much got it right above, the immigration laws and process were not as simple as some might have assumed.

For example, acquiring citizenship by marriage consider the following:

"From 1804, and until 1934, when a man filed a declaration of intention to become a citizen but died prior to naturalization, his widow and minor children were "considered as citizens of the United States" if they/she appeared in court and took the oath of allegiance and renunciation." - (nationalarchives.gov)

August 27, 2015 at 6:07 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@don'tbe,

As soon as you can provide evidence that illegals are actually stealing american jobs, as soon as you can provide evidence that illegals have increased the crime rate, as soon as you can prove that illegals come here to do harm.

Without evidence that taken as a group illegals do this things..... you have no case.

The draconian solutions are nothing more than solutions in search of a problem..... so just prove the problem really exists.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/...

http://www.pbs.org/pov/madeinla/speci...

http://www.texasgopvote.com/immigrati...

https://www.uschamber.com/sites/defau...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemo...

August 27, 2015 at 1:56 p.m. suggest removal

Trump must not get a pass on key element of his immigration plan

@ dont

Yeah, I can just visualize Jesus hugging them as he is driving them out .....' cuz you don't belong here.

Christian love, ain't it great !

August 27, 2015 at 11:44 a.m. suggest removal

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