I'm sure that what you say is true in some of the cases. But, there are others where what you say is not true and in fact causes a lot more harm and pain than good.
The problem you raise about women saying, "if I only had one person who stood with me" can go both ways. This issue has become politicized and publicized to a point where the real people involved are being ignored and forgotten. What is right for one woman might not be right for another—THAT is why legislation like HB 78 is dangerous. It assumes ALL women are the same and in the same situation. That's absolutely absurd and not true.
Ideally, perhaps, we should all love and take care of each other. This is not reality as unfortunate as that may be. We must look out for ourselves and our families and, again, that might cause us to make extremely difficult decisions.
Therefore, it is important that we protect our ability to decide for ourselves and our families what is best for them--best for, not easiest. Likewise, we must protect the right to safe, affordable medical care if needed in one of these situations.
Also, no one is talking about partial-birth abortions. And, the large majority of terminated pregnancies, which again are NOT partial-birth abortions, have no mothers or children to speak of, because the women are not yet caregivers to living human children, and the fetuses themselves are not yet living human children. If we are going to talk specifics, use the correct terminology.
Thank you, Molly, for reminding us that it's not just fetuses who have a right to life--women in this country and our state have the right to life, also. Far too often are the lives and well-being of these women and their families ignored.
You're absolutely right: "Abortion is NOT a desired procedure." No one wants to have an abortion. No one is pro-abortion. People are, however, pro-women and pro-family and understand that life is full of unexpected--and sometimes uncomfortable--decisions that we must make.
The crucial part of that statement is that we have the ability to make our own decisions, and that we live in a state or a country that allows us to do that. People disagree with the decisions of others' all the time, and that's fine. But, completely eliminating the power for citizens to govern themselves and their families is unacceptable.
If we're going to talk about some fictitious Golden Age of America, limiting people's rights over their lives is definitely not the direction to be headed.
Oh, and please spare us the comments about spending too much time in college and being an out of touch bleeding heart liberal--I know you have enough time on your hands to be more creative than that.
Against my will and better judgement--because of the reasons stated by JohnathanBentley regarding negativity and racism--I feel compelled to post in this forum.
Any positive neighborhood or city-wide project deserves as much attention as it can get. It is in everyone's--in the city AND in the surrounding suburbs--best interest to encourage these projects and the individuals that put their time and efforts into seeing them through.
Projects like this one and many others that occur throughout Youngstown deserve notoriety and respect, especially when one considers the relentless negativity that some members of this community like to throw in the way of those trying to promote positive change.
The neigh-sayers reasons for doing this I simply cannot understand and makes the work that these neighborhoods and their partners in the city do all the more inspiring and worthy of at least a tip of our hats.
I've heard a lot of great things about this city's recent progress and the work that's being done, which is oddly not reflected in these forums. This discrepancy is likely because the only people posting here are too paralyzed by their own bitterness to actively make things better for themselves or their communities.
Meanwhile, those that want to improve their lives and neighborhoods are too busy actually DOING things instead of siting here slinging snarky remarks or posting links to old Vindy stories.
We could all learn something from examples like this one about what's being done in Wick Park. I hope this energy and enthusiasm for these kinds of projects continues to spread across the city.
Ohio bill ignores women’s rights
ProlifeMama,
I'm sure that what you say is true in some of the cases. But, there are others where what you say is not true and in fact causes a lot more harm and pain than good.
The problem you raise about women saying, "if I only had one person who stood with me" can go both ways. This issue has become politicized and publicized to a point where the real people involved are being ignored and forgotten. What is right for one woman might not be right for another—THAT is why legislation like HB 78 is dangerous. It assumes ALL women are the same and in the same situation. That's absolutely absurd and not true.
Ideally, perhaps, we should all love and take care of each other. This is not reality as unfortunate as that may be. We must look out for ourselves and our families and, again, that might cause us to make extremely difficult decisions.
Therefore, it is important that we protect our ability to decide for ourselves and our families what is best for them--best for, not easiest. Likewise, we must protect the right to safe, affordable medical care if needed in one of these situations.
Also, no one is talking about partial-birth abortions. And, the large majority of terminated pregnancies, which again are NOT partial-birth abortions, have no mothers or children to speak of, because the women are not yet caregivers to living human children, and the fetuses themselves are not yet living human children. If we are going to talk specifics, use the correct terminology.
August 13, 2011 at 1:16 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Ohio bill ignores women’s rights
Thank you, Molly, for reminding us that it's not just fetuses who have a right to life--women in this country and our state have the right to life, also. Far too often are the lives and well-being of these women and their families ignored.
You're absolutely right: "Abortion is NOT a desired procedure." No one wants to have an abortion. No one is pro-abortion. People are, however, pro-women and pro-family and understand that life is full of unexpected--and sometimes uncomfortable--decisions that we must make.
The crucial part of that statement is that we have the ability to make our own decisions, and that we live in a state or a country that allows us to do that. People disagree with the decisions of others' all the time, and that's fine. But, completely eliminating the power for citizens to govern themselves and their families is unacceptable.
If we're going to talk about some fictitious Golden Age of America, limiting people's rights over their lives is definitely not the direction to be headed.
August 12, 2011 at 5:49 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Wick Park a focus of Youngstown administration, groups
Oh, and please spare us the comments about spending too much time in college and being an out of touch bleeding heart liberal--I know you have enough time on your hands to be more creative than that.
August 4, 2011 at 5:47 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Wick Park a focus of Youngstown administration, groups
Against my will and better judgement--because of the reasons stated by JohnathanBentley regarding negativity and racism--I feel compelled to post in this forum.
Any positive neighborhood or city-wide project deserves as much attention as it can get. It is in everyone's--in the city AND in the surrounding suburbs--best interest to encourage these projects and the individuals that put their time and efforts into seeing them through.
Projects like this one and many others that occur throughout Youngstown deserve notoriety and respect, especially when one considers the relentless negativity that some members of this community like to throw in the way of those trying to promote positive change.
The neigh-sayers reasons for doing this I simply cannot understand and makes the work that these neighborhoods and their partners in the city do all the more inspiring and worthy of at least a tip of our hats.
I've heard a lot of great things about this city's recent progress and the work that's being done, which is oddly not reflected in these forums. This discrepancy is likely because the only people posting here are too paralyzed by their own bitterness to actively make things better for themselves or their communities.
Meanwhile, those that want to improve their lives and neighborhoods are too busy actually DOING things instead of siting here slinging snarky remarks or posting links to old Vindy stories.
We could all learn something from examples like this one about what's being done in Wick Park. I hope this energy and enthusiasm for these kinds of projects continues to spread across the city.
August 4, 2011 at 5:45 p.m. permalink suggest removal