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Park board, other officials must stop treating the public like kids

Steivo, are your comments meant to serve some reverse-psychology purpose? Do you think the public doesn't know that charter school faculties are filled with teachers who couldn't get jobs at real public schools?

Or that the charter school teachers wouldn't jump to any real public school at first chance to do so?

Research shows that the biggest factor in student success is a quality teacher -- the kind you will get in a real public school.
(Sorry to have to use the descriptor "real", but what can you do when charter schools have already subverted the meaning of "community" and "traditional". But, make no mistake, charter schools (called "community schools" in Ohio for no good reason) are in fact Public Schools.

July 28, 2014 at 8:37 a.m. suggest removal

Park board, other officials must stop treating the public like kids

Steivo, Is Michelle Malkin a "left wing looney"? This is not Buckeyes' first rodeo. They have not only been associated with other charter school scandals, but with other Islamic charter school scandals. See Michelle Malkin at this link: Why are taxpayers subsidizing Islamic fundamentalist schools? http://michellemalkin.com/2007/08/23/...

July 27, 2014 at 2:10 p.m. suggest removal

Just when it appeared that Democrats in Ohio were heading into the statewide election in November

And yet liberty22, Charter school scores are worse than Youngstown's. Even with the brain drain caused by vouchers to parochial schools and open enrollment, Charter school scores are worse. Even with unethical test administration at Charter schools, their scores are worse.
By the way, Volney is no longer vacant. It reopens this year. But let me remind you that the Former Eagle's Heights, Southside Academy, whatever other names were used for the former South High School had fiscal scandal after fiscal scandal, yet remains open with some adjustment to name. Google fiscal scandals in Ohio Charter Schools. They are rampant.

July 22, 2014 at 10:41 p.m. suggest removal

Public hearings should have preceded decision on geese

I agree with the last two commentors. Shame on the Vindicator for continuing coverage of this non-story. It is just a blatant attempt to gain new readers, even temporarily.
A protestor for the geese misuses the word "carnage" above, a particularly grating mistake given the actual carnage that has taken place this week in the Ukraine and Palestine.
Surely, animal activists would not stand for egg addling, except that they have no other answer to culling the overpopulation of geese. A possible reason that all newly laid eggs had not been found is that the geese nested in adjacent property outside of the park.
An effective egg addling program would have to include a notification of hundreds (thousands) of the neighbors that workers would be looking for nests -- and permission to look on property. There are no easy answers, as other communities battling the Canada goose population have discovered.

July 22, 2014 at 7:40 p.m. suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

Marci,
What you take for condescending was me trying to be kind and not sarcastic or name calling, as some others who lost patience have been.

July 15, 2014 at 9:46 p.m. suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

MarciKarr, the number of comments is blue so that anyone can click on them to see how often, and on what stories I have commented.
Since you want to make it personal, I have seen your posts on Mill Creek Metroparks site as well as Candy's. You comment a lot, and you denigrate people who have knowledge of facts. I don't know what your hang-up is about people people with expertise, but I guess it explains your attitude toward the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and park naturalists.

July 15, 2014 at 3:54 p.m. suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

cmrosko, Volney Rogers with help from professional park designers, planned the lakes. He did not want them to be reservoirs for city water supply. No, I do not think he would support draining them. And I think my question about that would be, are the lakes the problem when we see that Calvary Cemetery, among others, Austintown Middle School, West Blvd. Elementary School, etc. are overrun with geese and have no lakes?

July 15, 2014 at 3:49 p.m. suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

Agree with you on this Walter Sobchak. What would Volney Rogers say?
Well, while he was still working in the area, he paid local boys a bounty for muskrat hides, as the muskrats were destroying plantings. In fact, there are no longer lilies at The Lily Pond because muskrats ate them before the 1930s. He also paid a bounty for owl carcasses, until changing his mind after having a taxidermist mount a particularly big and beautiful one. The owls were predators of the songbirds he was trying to attract.

(according to his papers at the Mahoning Country Historical Society and described in "The Legacy of Mill Creek Park, the Biography of Volney Rogers" by Bridget M. Williams.)

July 15, 2014 at noon suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

Exhibit 1: post 19 by r0n724
Just wait...the Canadian and other out-of-towners will be chiming in soon. There is no species they hate, except humanity.

July 15, 2014 at 10:38 a.m. suggest removal

Park board gets earful about geese euthanasia

When a couple of protestors described area children as "vermin" who "don't need to play in a safe area, that they could play in hell," that was it for me. They lost me. On internet sites they post on, the same goose protestors who claim they cannot sleep since 238 geese were put down have no problem describing the painful deaths they would like to inflict on humans who have alternate opinions. They have no problem equating the few hours of goose euthanization to the systematic starvation, hard labor, and gassing of more than 2 million humans in Nazi concentration camps.
Now mind you, most of these same complainers walk through the poultry aisle in the grocery store, where every week there are 238 dismembered corpses of other poultry...and do not shed a tear. It is unlikely that those birds were killed in as humane way as the park geese. You see, it is not about the "compassion" of the protestors. In a weird way, anger energizes them. They are enjoying being in a complaining group. They feel they should have had the power to make decisions, instead of people who for years have studied and worried about the park environment.

July 15, 2014 at 9:46 a.m. suggest removal

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