SATISFACTORY??? If my performance report looked like this, I I wouldn’t be rated SATISFACTORY, I’d be rated UNEMPLOYED
from the 2008 Ohio school report cardDistrict-- standards met (out of 30)Youngstown City-- 1
District-- AVG Teachers salary without benefitsYoungstown-- 50,729
District--- expenditures per student FY 07Youngstown-- 15,387.93
DISTRICT-- ADMINISTRATORS AVERAGE SALARYYoungstown-- 71,957.14
Know how your tax money is spent and what the results are. Non city residents (state and federal taxes) pay about 76 percent of Youngstown Schools' expenses, city residents pay only about 23 percent. As one of the people who pay the 76%, do we have a right to demand better performance from the Youngstown Schools?DISTRICT--LOCAL FUNDINGYoungstown-- 23.20%
November 24, 2008 at 5:32 p.m.
Yes, an opportunity to spend taxpayer money on good union members who happen to be voters and campaign contributors. Just because the land may never be needed why shouldn’t they spend the money .
November 14, 2008 at 4:47 p.m.
Pardon me, it was the ACLU that campaigned to prevent the death penalty in cases where the perpetrator had reduced or limited mental capacity. The perpetrator in the arson to which you refer was determined by the court to have reduced or limited mental capacity, therefore the death penalty and potentially the conviction would have been overturned on appeal.
Because of the above, your final statement should read ‘And people wonder why retarded folks do trust the justice system’
October 30, 2008 at 4:30 p.m.
Earth to “Financial Advisory Committee”,
We have a problem, $98 million in revenue for 2009 and $114 in expenses.
If you are not looking at another $16 million in deficit, where are your numbers wrong? And this is even with getting about 50% of the revenue for students who do go to other schools to cover your fixed costs?
Oh, & where is the 20% of the revenue that comes from the federal government according to the CUPP report? You missed it? No big deal, just a continuation of games playing and misinformation so the electorate can not make an informed decision!
October 29, 2008 at 11:58 a.m.
“City dweller and Education voter I agree totally with you. In keeping with Bull Chip's stubborn and ignorant insistence that no more money should go to the schools "til everything's fixed", there are some free or cheap things that could be done to make learning a bit easier for the students.”
No facts, just insults and accusations!
In non-NEA/OEA world, in the worst case, about ½ of the money for a student transferred to a Charter or other alternative school goes with the student. That translates to, in the WORST case, the school gets $7,500 for each student that ships out. In other words, if the school could get rid of all students, they would still receive over $7,000 for each resident, non-attending student.
The sad fact is the Y-Town schools would still be bankrupt if they had no students and still received over $7,000 for reach non-student.
These kids are being attracted to other districts and alternative schools because there is hope. Hope is the nemesis of the NEA/OEA. If they can’t force parents and students to use their product, they will, and are, failing.
Bull Chip for change and honesty!
October 27, 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
Please allow me to guess what the UFCW response would have been:
‘YOU WILL shop where we say and work where we say and think the way we tell you and pay us for the privilege!
YOU WILL bow down to and worship the power of the RAT and we his minions.
The steel mills will reopen!'
October 27, 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
A “study” does not prove a hypothesis!
Let’s examine what is said in this article, like “Just taking the written portion of the driver’s test doesn’t get you a license”.
I thought, in our shared world, or at least the state of Ohio, if you fail the written test you are not allowed to prove that you can drive. Do you have to prove that you can indeed implement what was “learned”, most certainly. However, before you have the opportunity, you must prove that you have indeed learned it.
What is it about these “lived experiences” that are so daunting? If you indeed evaluate and study the results of the testing, you soon find that economic issues are not the primary deciding force. Poor rural districts fair much better than equally poor urban districts. If someone would publish a study that said ‘if the brown eyed population in the district is under 35%, there is a 80% probability that that the school will be in crisis, while if the brown eyed population is over 60% there is a 20% probability that the school will be in crisis’ and had statistics to prove it, what changes would be called for (either today or in 1968)?
I repeat, a study can not prove a hypothesis. In order to prove it, you need to make equal but opposite changes in a very successful school and one in failure. Ok professor, just what would those needed changes be?
Should your dentist be qualified solely on her/his street creds, or would you prefer they complete: a recognized educational course, acquire internship practice hours and complete board certification? Why should a high school or college diploma be any different?
October 27, 2008 at 12:02 p.m.
“By ensuring public transportation for those who need it we limit their reliance on society”
OK, and by taxing uninvolved parties the cost is no being put on society?
The platitudes proffered in this tome may sound nice, but there has been no accounting for the expenses involved with the current operation of the WRTA. Further, there has been no detailed plan presented for the expenditures of additional revenues generated should the levy pass.
No, as been oft times stated before, this is just a political patronage money grab. The only people who might vote for the levy are those who actually use the existing service and those who currently pay property taxes to support it.
The only issue the writer of this letter to the editor left out was ‘from each by their ability, to each by their need’. Socialism and communism are not justifications for the taxation of the unwilling and uninvolved!
October 24, 2008 at 8:56 a.m.
“My destination is downtown, and I only live about 2 miles away. So, $6/trip is probably the least expensive cab ride. You'd have to buy $2400 of stuff for $6 of the sales tax to go to WRTA.”
And now we get to the real crux of the problem. We all agree the tax support (City, state federal, etc.) is something North of $5 per rider based on the 4,000 number. If you pay $1 as a riderand I as a taxpayer pay $5 or more, don’t we have that $6 taxi ride? What if, as I suspect, the actual tax subsidy is already $5 per mile, we have $11 for that 2 mile ride.
Either way, you are saying that some or a lot of money needs to come from non-rider taxpayers to underwrite WRTA’s cost. You are expecting me to underwrite your transportation even more than I am now through federal and state subsidies.
If the WRTA could reduce its’ cost, couldn’t the system restore the routes that were dropped? A government agency downsizing to increase its’ value to taxpayers? What a novel idea.
Then there is this fine gem “maybe the City of Youngstown should tell the suburbs to get their own water”.
Well bucko, the burbs that use city water already pay a hefty surcharge for the water. As they are now seeking bids from Aqua, the city will loose not only the surcharges but also the base rates as they migrate to the new supplier. Since the city can not afford the cost of the water department on just city revenues, the system will collapse under its own financial weight and likely be sold, to Aqua. As far as the infrastructure, a 25 year bond next year will take care of that very well in the unlikely case they loose the court case.
The burb I live in already uses Aqua., if the burb my business is located in succumbs to the JEDD extortion instead of going to Aqua, guess what? I am going to move the business. Either way my employees will not be subjected to a confiscatory city tax. Would you stand for a 2 ½% cut in your welfare/SSI/food stamps/WIC/Section 8 payments?
October 15, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.
Defending the indefensible
I've posted it before, here it is again, by the numbers
NO, more money isn't the solution, accountability is
from the 2008 Ohio school report card
District-- standards met (out of 30)Youngstown City-- 1Campbell City-- 14Sebring Local-- 16Jackson-Milton-- 23Struthers City-- 23Austintown Local-- 25Boardman Local-- 27Lowellville-- 27West Branch-- 27Springfield-- 28Western Reserve-- 28Poland Local-- 29South Range-- 29Canfield Local-- 30
District-- AVG Teachers salary without benefits
Sebring-- 43,970Struthers-- 45,913Jackson-Milton-- 45,968Western Reserve-- 45,975Springfield-- 48,345West Branch-- 49,191Austintown-- 49,978Youngstown-- 50,729Lowellville-- 50,947South Range-- 51,551Campbell-- 51,690Boardman-- 54,065Poland-- 55,537Canfield-- 57,842
District--- expenditures per student FY 07Youngstown-- 15,387.93Campbell-- 9,791.79South Range-- 9,478.32Jackson-Milton-- 8,964.78Boardman-- 8,530.30Austintown-- 8,503.23Sebring-- 8,305.80Poland-- 8,127.83Canfield-- 7,877.38Springfield-- 7,728.24West Branch-- 7,664.36Struthers-- 7,526.97Western Reserve-- 7,505.41Lowellville-- 7,110.44
a reward for failing
DISTRICT-- ADMINISTRATORS AVERAGE SALARYYoungstown-- 71,957.14Springfield-- 70,116.82Canfield-- 70,090.56Jackson-Milton-- 65,782.00Boardman-- 65,439.83Western Reserve-- 65,344.67Struthers-- 65,063.25Sebring-- 65,005.44Poland LocaL-- 64,506.99West Branch-- 64,368.00Austintown-- 62,139.43Campbell-- 57,276.33Lowellville-- 55,052.75South RangE-- 48,983.34
Know how your tax money is spent and what the results are. Non city residents (state and federal taxes) pay about 76 percent of Youngstown Schools' expenses, city residents pay only about 23 percent. As one of the people who pay the 76%, do we have a right to demand better performance from the Youngstown Schools?
DISTRICT--LOCAL FUNDINGCampbell-- 18.20%Youngstown-- 23.20%Sebring-- 23.80%West Branch-- 30.50%Struthers-- 33.10%Springfield-- 41.50%Austintown-- 43.90%Lowellville-- 44.70%South Range-- 51.00%Western Reserve-- 52.30%Poland-- 58.80%Jackson-Milton-- 59.50%Canfield-- 61.70%Boardman-- 71.40%
October 14, 2008 at 1:26 p.m.