What do you expect when you put educators like Nancy Rogers in charge of an important office. Money's nothing to them - they work in a non-profit world. Give the girls whatever they want, its only taxpayers money. I think your description of Marc Dann is a bit over the edge. He was apparently doing an adequate job until the roof fell in. As for Jennings and Gutierrez, you are closer to the mark.
Don Hanni reposing in honored glory in the courthouse rotuunda. I personally can't think of a better way for the Youngstown of old to thumb it's nose at the rest of the country. Yes, he certainly had his good points and was liked by a lot of people. BUT, he was also an old-fashioned, arm-twisting, machine political boss, a judge who was removed from the bench for judicial misconduct, (he celebrated his removal by bringing a bottle of whiskey to his office and making jokes about it), and a lawyer who represented only those who were guilty as hell. I am not criticizing Hanni; he was what he was. But, I think the decision to display him in the courthouse rotunda sends out the wrong message to the rest of the country. It says that we still have not progressed beyond the good old boy, smoke filled room, politics where deals are made based on who you know. We live in our own little world (da Valley). By allowing Hanni to rest in the courthouse, Youngstown has forfeited it's last (albeit slim) chance to put it's shady past behind it and move into the 21st century.
A lot of people are missing the point here. Unlike Judge Kirchbaum, this guy actually has to work for a living. He worked several 14-16 hour shifts and had an in flight emergency. Contrast this to the Judge's average day. Anybody who knows anything about the Mahoning County court system knows that most Judges think a 3 hour day is a long one. To Kirchbaum, an emergency would be running out of Altoids. The idea that those who actually do something productive should have to take time off work to referee the squables of the rifraf in this valley surpasses understanding. Maybee we should have professional, paid juries to handle all the he said/she said fluff and let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Why are the outlying areas always being saddled with Youngstown's woes. We already pay for their Mill Creek Park that very few residents of Smith, Goshen, Berlin, Green, Beaver, Ellsworth, Springfield, Jackson & Milton townships ever use. You city folks don't seem to understand. We don't want your busses out here. The WRTA, like ALL other Mahoning County public sector entities, exists not for the service it supplies, but rather to provide jobs and pensions for the sons, daughters, nephews, nieces, in-laws & grandchildren of former political hacks, labor leaders & mob figures. If the WRTA closes up shop, city residents will just have to find another way to get to A-town & Boardman to do their shoplifting (oops, I mean shopping -I think)
If the Assistant Fire Marshal Chuck Hanni (where have I heard that name before?) was so sure that the vapors could not be ignited with a lighter, why didn't he prove it in the courtroom by holding a bucket of solvent in his lap and waving a lighter over it?
The last time this came up for a vote, Ferraro screwed up. He promised to expand the WRTA to remote areas of the county. Of course he didn't mean it, but he would have done better to promise NOT to bus Youngstown's problems out to the suburbs and beyond. Why not just arrange for chauffered Mercedes-Benz's for the 8 or so people who ride the WRTA. It would be cheaper in the long run.
The Vindicator must have an editor whose sole job is to make sure that Kelly Pavlik and Jim Graham have articles printed about them each day. I'm sick of hearing about Pavlik whose only skill is beating people senseless and Graham and his whiney auto workers. A lot of peple in this area work other places than GM. Give it a rest.
The Vindicator must have an editor whose sole job is to make sure that Kelly Pavlik and Jim Graham have articles printed about them each day. I'm sick of hearing about Pavlik whose only skill is beating people senseless and Graham and his whiney auto workers. A lot of peple in this area worl other places than GM. Give it a rest.
Some thoughts: First of all, the idea that a person who owns a gun is more likely to shoot a family member or friend is a liberal-driven lie based on a very flawed study done by Case Western Reserve Univ. researchers in 1970, 38 years ago. The study was done in East Cleveland, Ohio, an almost 100% black suburb of Cleveland with a very high violent crime rate. How did they determine who knew who? Well the (anti-gun) researchers simply drew a circle one half mile in radius around the victims residence and if the shooter lived within this 1 mile diameter circle, the Case people arbitrarily decided that they were either related or knew each other. This is garbage science at its best. Why was the survey never repeated? Because the anti-gun people got the slanted results they wanted the first time . The anti-gun crowd has been repeating the same time worn lie ever since. Second: It is encouraging that so many people in Youngstown hate guns. Everything else in Loserville is backwards so this must mean guns are gaining in popularity elsewhere. Lastly: I worked in a retail firearms establishment for a few years. It has been my personal experience that most people who are opposed to private gun ownership are the ones who cannot legally own them due to felonys, or drug or domestic violence convictions. I wonder how many of the above writers fall into that category.
I had to laugh when I read this. The Unitarians aren't a church! The're just a collection of ultra-liberals, acamedians, tree huggers and other leftist fringe. In other words, people who have never gotten their hands dirty with honest toil. You never see a Unitarian Universalist Church unless there's a college nearby. They can welcome whomever they want, but they really should drop the "church" from their name.
Posted on July 31 at 2:30 p.m.
What do you expect when you put educators like Nancy Rogers in charge of an important office. Money's nothing to them - they work in a non-profit world. Give the girls whatever they want, its only taxpayers money. I think your description of Marc Dann is a bit over the edge. He was apparently doing an adequate job until the roof fell in.
As for Jennings and Gutierrez, you are closer to the mark.
Posted on July 21 at 3:27 p.m.
Don Hanni reposing in honored glory in the courthouse rotuunda. I personally can't think of a better way for the Youngstown of old to thumb it's nose at the rest of the country. Yes, he certainly had his good points and was liked by a lot of people. BUT, he was also an old-fashioned, arm-twisting, machine political boss, a judge who was removed from the bench for judicial misconduct, (he celebrated his removal by bringing a bottle of whiskey to his office and making jokes about it), and a lawyer who represented only those who were guilty as hell. I am not criticizing Hanni; he was what he was. But, I think the decision to display him in the courthouse rotunda sends out the wrong message to the rest of the country. It says that we still have not progressed beyond the good old boy, smoke filled room, politics where deals are made based on who you know. We live in our own little world (da Valley). By allowing Hanni to rest in the courthouse, Youngstown has forfeited it's last (albeit slim) chance to put it's shady past behind it and move into the 21st century.
Posted on July 17 at 5:16 p.m.
A lot of people are missing the point here. Unlike Judge Kirchbaum, this guy actually has to work for a living. He worked several 14-16 hour shifts and had an in flight emergency. Contrast this to the Judge's average day. Anybody who knows anything about the Mahoning County court system knows that most Judges think a 3 hour day is a long one. To Kirchbaum, an emergency would be running out of Altoids. The idea that those who actually do something productive should have to take time off work to referee the squables of the rifraf in this valley surpasses understanding. Maybee we should have professional, paid juries to handle all the he said/she said fluff and let the rest of us get on with our lives.
Posted on July 14 at 2:24 p.m.
Why are the outlying areas always being saddled with Youngstown's woes. We already pay for their Mill Creek Park that very few residents of Smith, Goshen, Berlin, Green, Beaver, Ellsworth, Springfield, Jackson & Milton townships ever use. You city folks don't seem to understand. We don't want your busses out here. The WRTA, like ALL other Mahoning County public sector entities, exists not for the service it supplies, but rather to provide jobs and pensions for the sons, daughters, nephews, nieces, in-laws & grandchildren of former political hacks, labor leaders & mob figures. If the WRTA closes up shop, city residents will just have to find another way to get to A-town & Boardman to do their shoplifting (oops, I mean shopping -I think)
Posted on July 10 at 3:34 p.m.
If the Assistant Fire Marshal Chuck Hanni (where have I heard that name before?) was so sure that the vapors could not be ignited with a lighter, why didn't he prove it in the courtroom by holding a bucket of solvent in his lap and waving a lighter over it?
Posted on July 10 at 3:29 p.m.
The last time this came up for a vote, Ferraro screwed up. He promised to expand the WRTA to remote areas of the county. Of course he didn't mean it, but he would have done better to promise NOT to bus Youngstown's problems out to the suburbs and beyond. Why not just arrange for chauffered Mercedes-Benz's for the 8 or so people who ride the WRTA. It would be cheaper in the long run.
Posted on July 8 at 3:42 p.m.
The Vindicator must have an editor whose sole job is to make sure that Kelly Pavlik and Jim Graham have articles printed about them each day. I'm sick of hearing about Pavlik whose only skill is beating people senseless and Graham and his whiney auto workers. A lot of peple in this area work other places than GM. Give it a rest.
Posted on July 8 at 3:41 p.m.
The Vindicator must have an editor whose sole job is to make sure that Kelly Pavlik and Jim Graham have articles printed about them each day. I'm sick of hearing about Pavlik whose only skill is beating people senseless and Graham and his whiney auto workers. A lot of peple in this area worl other places than GM. Give it a rest.
Posted on June 21 at 4:40 p.m.
Some thoughts:
First of all, the idea that a person who owns a gun is more likely to shoot a family member or friend is a liberal-driven lie based on a very flawed study done by Case Western Reserve Univ. researchers in 1970, 38 years ago. The study was done in East Cleveland, Ohio, an almost 100% black suburb of Cleveland with a very high violent crime rate. How did they determine who knew who? Well the (anti-gun) researchers simply drew a circle one half mile in radius around the victims residence and if the shooter lived within this 1 mile diameter circle, the Case people arbitrarily decided that they were either related or knew
each other. This is garbage science at its best. Why was the survey never repeated? Because the anti-gun people got the slanted results they wanted the first time . The anti-gun crowd has been repeating the same time worn lie ever since.
Second: It is encouraging that so many people in Youngstown hate guns. Everything else in Loserville is backwards so this must mean guns are gaining in popularity elsewhere.
Lastly: I worked in a retail firearms establishment for a few years. It has been my personal experience that most people who are opposed to private gun ownership are the ones who cannot legally own them due to felonys, or drug or domestic violence convictions. I wonder how many
of the above writers fall into that category.
Posted on June 11 at 4:57 p.m.
I had to laugh when I read this. The Unitarians aren't a church! The're just a collection of ultra-liberals, acamedians, tree huggers and other leftist fringe. In other words, people who have never gotten their hands dirty with honest toil. You never see a Unitarian Universalist Church
unless there's a college nearby. They can welcome whomever they want, but they really should drop the "church" from their name.