I need clarification so I am asking for a clear, logical explanation. Feel free to respond if anyone can.
Innocent until proven guilty. That is how the law works, correct? As I understand it the situation played out as such. Zimmerman calls in a suspicious person in the area. He receives advice not to continue pursuit but does anyway. To this point we know no law had been broken. There was no indication or proof at this time that Trayvon was being racially profiled since Zimmerman did not use any racial slurs. Now, we go to a conversation that Trayvon was having on his cell phone at or about the same time. As the witness said on the stand under oath, Trayvon said he was being followed by a creepy-*** cracker. (A racial slur).
Moving forward, no one but Zimmerman truly knows who was the aggressor. No one witnessed who really threw the first punch but there were witnesses saying Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him. So, these are the facts as I understand them.
My questions are, by the facts of the case how is this a case of injustice? How can people say this is a travesty? A tragedy, yes. Are people really looking for justice? Or is it vengeance they want?
July 19, 2013 at 11:20 a.m.
Parlay, no response to my post? I`m disappointed. Now I have nothing to amuse myself over morning coffee. :)
July 16, 2013 at 6:53 a.m.
Sorry, "you" instead of "the".
July 15, 2013 at 8:30 p.m.
lol, parlay. Emotion? Hardly.
As usual, the astound me with your response.
(In case you didn`t know, that`s sarcasm)
July 15, 2013 at 8:28 p.m.
Well Parlay, I`ve re-read all your posts and as much as you feel my reading and comprehension skills are lacking, I have to disagree. I have followed your train of thought and responded accordingly.Actually, perhaps YOU need to look over the posts. You`ve tied me to posts 21 and 22, neither of which I have made. Post 24 has nothing to do with our conversation so I am at a loss as to what you want me to respond to there.As far as what my reaction would be if Travon was my son? That is impossible for me to respond to. Being a victim of prejudice myself, I have always erred on the side of caution. Never making a move that might be deemed aggressive. Diffusing any potential situation with respect and calmness. I believe my children would do the same regardless. It is a wise stance regardless of anyone`s color or ethnicity. As you stated, you never know what nut job you may come across nowadays.
Your logical deduction is nothing of the sort. You`ve taken a specific, a poster`s name and his opinion of the case, and made a generalization. “One-hundred-percent of those who are in Zimmerman's corner are right-wingers who exhibit racial prejudice and who hate Obama.”- Parlay.Here is another,
“Post #16...Oh, that's you AntiObama, Antiblack....I mean, AntiYoungstown....you made up your mind the same as Post #14” – Parlay.
I have given you no indication what my racial or political views are, yet you have profiled me.Your train of thought that you are holding dear to can be used this same way. Example- Black people have been caught stealing and murdering. Travon was black. Therefore Travon was a murderer and a thief.
No difference, correct? You are the same as the people you are accusing. Making grand assumptions, profiling without facts, all opinion and theory.
July 15, 2013 at 1:40 p.m.
Parlay, how do you sleep at night with all those racists hiding behind every bush? Don`t you think you are being a little paranoid? Am I to believe that the jury sent a not guilty verdict because they feared for their lives? Really? WOW! I guess facts, or lack of in this case played little part in the outcome. It was one big conspiracy.
What logical deduction did you make? Because I go by Antiyoungstown I hate President Obama, am a racist, and I`m right wing? Where is that logic?
As for post 21 and 22, neither are mine. And i don't know what you mean about post 24.
Tell you what, go to sleep, put a logical, fact based post up. That is, of course if the racist boogie man doesn`t get you first. :)
July 15, 2013 at 12:01 a.m.
Another assumption I see...
I guess by the facts presented in your posts, you`re guilty of profiling as well.
July 14, 2013 at 11:13 p.m.
Parlay, it`s humorous how you talk about the injustice of profiling blacks yet here you are posting about how we that say justice is served are nothing but Obama hating, right wing nuts. Your comment about knowing what kind of poster Harleydog is, is making an assumption and a type of profiling isn`t it?
July 14, 2013 at 10:11 p.m.
Parlay, what does your litmus test prove? What bearing does it have on a case of facts?
The jury went through the voir dire process so obviously both the prosecution and the defense felt they could get a fair trial. The jury dealt with the facts as they were presented to them. So instead of blaming the jury, perhaps the prosecution is to blame for trying to go for murder when they had a weak case to begin with.
Papa, your statement is in error. What law did Zimmerman break when he left his car? The police said not to follow Martin, Zimmerman made a poor choice of judgement when he did anyway. Still, no law broken.
The facts are this no matter how you want to slice it. Zimmerman did nothing illegal that anyone but he and Martin know of. After he left to confront Martin, Zimmerman could have been the instigator or Martin could have been. Unless Zimmerman says different we will never know.
Justice has been served with the facts at hand.
July 14, 2013 at 1:17 p.m.
By the law of the USA, justice has been served.
Kudos to the jury that saw the facts as they were presented to them and make the only logical decision possible.
July 14, 2013 at 9:02 a.m.