Parlay, "a debasement unheard of in human history." Really?
Please educate yourself. Every world power since the dawn of time has had their slaves, white, black, or whatever. They enslaved the peoples they conquered. Greeks, Persians. Ancient Romans didnt care what color their slaves were. And the lions in the Coliseum didn`t care either!
July 21, 2013 at 7:33 p.m.
Hella, please read my earlier posts and explain to me how a travesty occurred. I am really interested to understand your train of thought.
July 21, 2013 at 12:26 p.m.
CBD, prejudice and racism is human nature. It will never truly disappear as long as there are differences of color, religion, or economics. I`m sure the human race hasn`t progressed much since ancient times. And I don`t expect it to change much in another few hundred years.
July 21, 2013 at 12:22 p.m.
TB - "The Fact You Are Leaving Out Is That The Entire Situation Does Not Occur If George Zimmerman, An ADuly With Training, Does Not Leave His Vehicle."
That is not a fact. One can easily say the situation does not occur if neither one was there that night. Or if someone was five minutes earlier or later, their paths would never have crossed. Or if Trayvon called 911 instead of a friend.
TB - "He Bears Some Responsibility, Whether Legal Or Not. I Do Not Feel Bad For A Man Who, Legally Or Not, Ends The Life Of Another. Trayvon Did Nothing Wrong Initially,And That Fact Is Irrefutable."
How does he bear responsibility if he shot someone in self defense?
TB - "Trayvon Did Nothing Wrong Initially,And That Fact Is Irrefutable."
By that statement you are admitting that he did do something wrong eventually. Which witnesses stated he was beating Zimmerman. That is irrefutable. What happened prior to cannot be proven one way or the other.
Bumbob - "George Zimmerman engaged in behavior that provoked a confrontation and ended in the murder of Trayvon Martin."
What exactly was that behavior? Being on a neighborhood watch? Investigating a suspicious person? Because from the point he was on the phone to the point he was getting beat, there is no evidence to indicate what happened.
Should federal charges be brought up, I hope for the prosecution has a better case. Otherwise it will be a waste of dollars.
July 21, 2013 at 9:42 a.m.
I need clarification so I am asking for a clear, logical explanation. Feel free to respond if anyone can.
Innocent until proven guilty. That is how the law works, correct? As I understand it the situation played out as such. Zimmerman calls in a suspicious person in the area. He receives advice not to continue pursuit but does anyway. To this point we know no law had been broken. There was no indication or proof at this time that Trayvon was being racially profiled since Zimmerman did not use any racial slurs. Now, we go to a conversation that Trayvon was having on his cell phone at or about the same time. As the witness said on the stand under oath, Trayvon said he was being followed by a creepy-*** cracker. (A racial slur).
Moving forward, no one but Zimmerman truly knows who was the aggressor. No one witnessed who really threw the first punch but there were witnesses saying Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him. So, these are the facts as I understand them.
My questions are, by the facts of the case how is this a case of injustice? How can people say this is a travesty? A tragedy, yes. Are people really looking for justice? Or is it vengeance they want?
This is an honest question. I`m just looking for someone to clarify. No "what if`s" or "what someone should have done".
A court of law does not deal with "what if`s."
If my facts are correct I want to understand how when presented with facts, can someone disregard them, form an opinion without any proof, then expect to make a strong, respectable arguement.
July 21, 2013 at 8:50 a.m.
If my facts are correct I want to understand how when presented with facts, can someone disregard them, form an opinion without any proof, then expect to make a strong, respectable arguement. How do you protest about something you truly do not know about?
July 21, 2013 at 8:45 a.m.
Papa, were you there? Do you know exactly what happened? Or are your posts going to be nothing but "what if`s" and speculation?
As for the jury selection the process of voir dire allows the prosecution and the defense to pick or eliminate the jury. You can't just make up your own jury because you feel more blacks should have been on it.
July 21, 2013 at 8:38 a.m.
July 20, 2013 at 5:15 p.m.
My questions are, by the facts of the case how is this a case of injustice? How can people say this is a travesty? A tragedy, yes. Not a travesty. Are people really looking for justice? Or is it vengeance they want?
July 19, 2013 at 11:59 p.m.
No, what I am looking for is an understanding of the situation. Am I missing any facts? If not, what is the logical thought process when the facts are presented?
Saying, "if Zimmerman did not have a gun," doesn`t explain anything. Nor does it pertain to my original questions.
I want to understand how when presented with facts how can someone disregard them, form an opinion without any proof, then expect to make a respectable arguement.
July 19, 2013 at 4:13 p.m.